February 1, 2007
Why were seven U.S. attorneys asked to step down? Radley Balko investigates.
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At ~$220,000 per salesman, just think - we could rid the country
of 50,000 sellers of water pipes, rolling papers, and blunts for a
mere $10 Billion (that's Billion with a B).
After that, we only have to eliminate the production and sales of
toilet paper rolls, aluminum foil, soft drink cans, and fruits and
vegetables and there'll be no way for anyone to spark up.
Victory in the WoD in is our grasp!!
I hate to bring up the liberaltarian-economic libertarian thing again, but I can't resist. Here we have my case in previous threads in a nutshell: conservative libertarianism-no sex, gambling, or getting high. Liberal libertarianism-I can't hire someone full time for less than seven bucks an hour or write off my 'estate'. I think I know which means more to my everyday life, and the freedom of millions vs. the freedom of thousands...
the Bush league is a scofflaw regime
an inept one at that
that Bush and co. conspired to defraud the nation into (a failed)
war of aggression has spooked them into playing preemptive defense
with the DoJ's roster
First Reno
then Ashcroft
then Gonzalez
it's as though someone threw the AG's office off a cliff
The DOJ answers to no one. They've actually become more outlandish than Bush in all regards.
Ken-
Be careful not to inhale any smoke from that burning strawman, or a
conservative libertarian will have you arrested.
Yeah I pine for the days of the non-political libertarian
Clinton/Reno Justice Department.
Weed was like almost totally legal.
They were all about sticking it to the MAN!
Another outstanding Balko piece.
I thought transforming the DOJ into the Inquisition was Ed Meese's
failed project. Come to think of it, this whole administration is
like it's made from the most disgusting parts of the Reagan
years.
Why is always the worst of everything that gets recycled?
I am expecting an announcement that the administration is shutting down the GAO in order to transfer more resources into Crusading Republicans Against Pleasure.
Thoreau
Conservative strawman? Did you read the article? Those are the
priorities of the conservative administration...Were they similar
priorities under liberal administrations? Bush is conservatism now,
just ask one. I'd like it if conservatism was more like Robert
Nisbet or Edmund Burke but what we have is what we got...
Clinton fired every sitting U.S. Attorney when he came into office, including those who were investigating his shananagans in Arkansas. U.S. Attornies are political appointees. The President can replace them.
The worst gets recycled because air bags that are full of shit
float to the top in politics. It floats to the top in almost every
publicly financed venture. Reward incompetence and failure with
promotion. School systems do it all the time, promote to get them
out of one place (send them anyplace but here) and on to be someone
elses problem. This flawed logic is the norm these days since
trying to fire a state of Fed employee is almost impossible (even
if they have 90K in marked money from an FBI sting in their
freezer). Did his Dem buddies demand he resign? Nope they just made
it look like they were upset and took his assignment away, for now
that is tomorrow who knows he may be the next Black Caucus
Leader.
Two of the absolute worst teachers I had as a kid I have since
found out are now the Principle and Vice Principle of a local high
school. Needless to say they sent them to the worst school in the
area which only seems fitting based on their abilities. Point being
they were promoted to just get them out of their current positions
and make them someone elses problem. Now they are the "leaders," at
the school that leads in nothing except perhaps the highest rate of
arrests for student bodies. Thus no one expected them to do
anything to actually improve the situation at the school based on
their abilities. They could not be fired as they were -Americans so
they were promoted up and out. Those that promoted them are the
same that will always claim its for the children when they want
something like more tax money.
Stupid is as stupid does. Shame they are all stupid.
A first for me: I actually disagree completely with
Radley.
There was a time in American government where public servants
pretty much expected to be replaced as soon as a new guy (generally
from the other party) took over. And that's the way it should be.
This whole idea that public servants are somehow entitled to the
position until they deem themselves ready to move on is what
entrenches bureaucracy. Let Gonzalez whack 'em all, then when the
next party takes over the successor can remove all of Gonzalez's
appointees.
Well Kerry/Gore and the second guy they appointed as attorney general and the judges they decided to fire in year two of their second term for prosecuting the cases they decided to prosecute...well, they would have been worse.
these replacements wouldn't have been possible in pre-PATRIOT
act days
from the NY TImes:
Ms. Feinstein said the department might be removing the
prosecutors to take advantage of a little-noticed provision in the
2006 reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act that expanded its
authority to make indefinite interim appointments.
Previously, a federal judge would appoint an interim United States
attorney to serve until the Senate confirmed the president's
nominee. Now the attorney general can nominate someone to serve
without confirmation for the remainder of Mr. Bush's term. Ms.
Feinstein, Mr. Pryor and Mr. Leahy have introduced legislation to
restore the role of naming interim prosecutors to the
judiciary.
"Yeah I pine for the days of the non-political libertarian
Clinton/Reno Justice Department.
Weed was like almost totally legal.
They were all about sticking it to the MAN!"
Bad example. The last two presidents who came even close to
softening up on the Drug War were pilloried by Drug War hawks. Take
a wild guess at who they were. I'll give you a few hints...not
Nixon, not Reagan, and the names don't rhyme with push.
Seriously Perry, you can do better than that. Have you run out of
fat chick jokes?
If we were watching all this on the movie screen, we would understand that the plot is evil men infiltrating a free nation.
I agree with KoWT. The issue isn't that the President fired US attorneys that were investigating political corruption related to his party, but that he now has the power to bypass the Senate in the new appointments. How hard can it be for the Senate to march down there this afternoon and strip that provision out of the (shudder) PATRIOT Act? Or do they have to find some spending to attach to it first?
pinko,
Carter-let 'em smoke paraquat who cares if their lungs disolve
drugs are illegal.He talked decrim till he got into office and his
coke snorting 'lude dealer got in trouble.
Clinton?!?! I have no doubt there were a lot more dopers on the
White House staff but please,tell me one thing he did to soften up
on the Drug War- Oh yeah all those mandatory minimum victims he
pardoned right at the end.
If Clinton had any inclination to relax the drug war he had every
opprtunity to do it as a lame duck. His Justice Dept was just as
aggressive in going after State Medical Marijuana
initiatives.
It never ceases to amaze me the way some people buy into the
whisper FUD surrounding
Democrat politics targeting the "youth vote". Republicans bringing
back the draft.Dems are going to legalize the herb.
Probably worth a few 100k votes every election cycle.
If you are referencing Ford/Carter era that "tolerance" was mostly
social and the pendulum swing from the 60s.Then all those baby
-boomers cleaned up (at least outwardly) and pleaded "what about
OUR children!)
Or were you referring to JFK and LBJ?
According to the DOJ, one U.S. attorney was fired
specifically for her poor record in prosecuting violations of
federal weapons laws.
Back under Clinton the Democrats were pushing hard for more gun
control laws to solve the major problem of "too many guns on the
street." At the same time it was nearly impossible to get a federal
prosecutor interested in a case involving criminal use of
firearms.
They ignored felon-in-possession cases, which are slam-dunk. ("Were
you holding this gun? Are you a felon? Prosecution rests.")
Anti-gun folks cited statistics showing kazillions of dangerous
criminals kept from buying a gun by the Brandy law, while
neglecting to mention that none of them were arrested for breaking
such an important law. And so forth.
In March 2006, President Bush signed the reauthorization of the
PATRIOT Act. Included in that bill was a provision allowing interim
U.S. attorneys appointed by the president to serve indefinitely
without Senate confirmation.
Surely you aren't alleging that the U.S. Congress wasn't fully
conversant with all the provisions of such a vital piece of
legislation. Gee, that's never happened before.
"please,tell me one thing he did to soften up on the Drug
War."
Perry,
Carter actually put his neck on the line to suggest
decriminalization of Marijuana. Do you want to deny this? Go right
ahead. Pin whatever you like on Carter...cue "lust in heart" joke,
talk inflation, gas crisis, Operation Eagle Claw, whatever. Just
try to keep it at at least a fourth grade reading level and stay on
message.
And Clinton?
A few nuggets from Clinton's first appointee to the office of Drug
Czar, Lee Brown:
"[a] country shouldn't declare war on it own people."
"All empirical research told me that treatment works."
"The first order of business [is to] provide treatment upon demand
for all addicts who wanted to overcome their addictions."
Lee Brown was a mediocre, ill-equipped, spineless excuse for a drug
czar. What he didn't do, stay awake because this is important, is
either ratchet up or maintain the level of drug war militarization
as it was when Clinton inherited it. In fact, at every opportunity,
he pushed for demilitarization.
Clinton's strategy?
Clinton's early strategy was to reduce funding for interdiction and
support more funding for treatment.
So what happened?
After a sincere attempt to begin rolling back the militarization of
the War on Drugs, a University of Michigan poll came out in January
of 1994 that pointed to rising marijuana usage among high
schoolers. Drug warriors in Congress, Democrats and Republicans
alike, began to hammer him for for being "soft" on drugs. It was a
political loser. Perhaps Sullum and/or Balko can do a little
historical piece for you.
All those other hallucinations of yours about paraquat, 'ludes, the
draft ...well I'm not going to waste my time.
Get your shit together.
Oh...the doper thing. Who the fuck uses that word anymore? Are you collecting archaic usages from the Reefer Madness era, or just more generally a little slow?
Why does every observation about Bush evoke a reference to Clinton? Who gives a damn about Clinton? It's a little late to rein him in, isn't it? I'm worried about the current officeholder because he's the one that's screwing up my country.
pinko,
I'm sorry you are so dense. Carter ran on decriminalizing marijuana
then he proceeded to poison the marijuana supply. The belief at the
time was it really would kill you- thanks to the chemicals the
Carter administration was adding to the Colombian crop- the USs
largest supplier at the time.Look up paraquat if you can put down
Das Kapital and aren't too stoned.
(look up his drug dealing coke snorting advisor Peter Bourne while
you are at it-helps explain Carter's hypocrisy and where the policy
180 came from).
Treatment? Interdiction? meaningless rhetoric.....Clinton did
nothing to ease up on the Drug War- his Justice Department pursued
it with the same zeal as his predecessors.Clinton had the
opportunity to "make a statement" in his last year-with no
political price to pay other than his precious legacy- he did
nothing.
The most draconian excesses of "The War" were passed by Democrats
in a Democrat controlled congress.
Senior Republicans have come out for full legalization- Schultz and
Baker. Where are your Democrats?
Why refer to Clinton and what Democrats have done in the
past?
Well a lot of younger and inattentive citizens are of the
impression BusHitler invented
all the Statist evils.
When the Democrats are in power and shredding our liberty and
rights the silence from the Left is deafening.
Perry,
There is always a political price to pay for trying to scale back
the drug war. Paraquat...started under Nixon in Mexico
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB86/
You're welcome.
Oh, and you are a retarded pantload.
"""Well a lot of younger and inattentive citizens are of the
impression BusHitler invented
all the Statist evils."""
You get no points here, if you wanted to give them a history less
why start with Clinton? That would be a very poor history
lesson.
When people shift from Bush to Clinton they are engaging in a "red
herring" fallacy of relevence.
The red herring fallacy is committed by introducing an irrelevant
topic in order to divert attention for the original issue being
discussed (chaffee, 2003).
It's about diverting the discussion from how bush Bush sucks to how
Clinton sucked.
""When the Democrats are in power and shredding our liberty and
rights the silence from the Left is deafening.""
And while the Republicans have been doing the same thing in the
last five years, the silence from the right has been deafening. The
few people that had the balls to say something were called traitors
in the right wing press.
Let me clue you to something, power wants more power, period. This
applies to both parties. No party has a monopoly on ignoring the
Constitution or violating your rights.
Those that have power, including 24 hour news channel pundits, take
your pick, have more of an interest is stopping us for seeing the
world as it really is and replacing it with their view.
Divide and conquer. By creating a sharp divide within the
citizenry, left-wing vs. right-wing. We spend more mental energy
fighting each other instead of fighting the common enemy of
freedom. Then step by step, your freedom is being removed, and what
were we doing while the de-freedoming of America was going
on?
Calling each other stupid names and arguing about what the pundits
said.
There are those who try to divide people and those who try to bring
people together. Yin or Yang, War or peace.
It's important to understand which one you are and why.
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