Nick Gillespie | January 23, 2007
Ed Morrissey of Captain's Quarters writes highly of Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.) when it comes to presidential aspirations:
The Democrats have no one else with a resume to match Richardson, with the possible (and extreme) exception of former Vice President Al Gore. The Democrats certainly have no other candidates with Richardson’s experience and his certified centrist appeal.
Neither do the Republicans have anyone in their committed field of candidates who can match this resume, either. And that should worry the GOP, if Richardson gets close.
Morrissey's reasoning on display here. Richardson has been a govermor, a congressman, a cabinet secretary, UN ambassador, pro baseball player, etc., etc. And former Reason Web Editor Tim Cavanaugh tagged him as the Democrat candidate back in 2005:
Bill Richardson will be the Democratic candidate for President in 2008. He'll be a good one too: He's a governor, he's not Northeast, he's likable, he'll be acceptable to the left, the moderates and the party hacks, he's folksy, he's even fatter than Bill Clinton was in Old '92, and he's got the "ethnic" wild card. In fact I'll give you two predictions for the price of one: You'll know Bill Richardson is going to be the candidate when he starts referring to himself as Bill "Perez" Richardson or Bill "Big Cloud" Richardson.
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i had been hopeful about richardson's prospects as a candidate
(as much as one can be about any presidential candidate) until the
recent post about his proposed registry.
now i'm not so sure.
He's been around for some time and always comes across as a nice and reasonable guy. He articulates himself very well and he's clearly smart and capable of listening to other people (I noticed he never really interrupts other guests on TV for instance). That said, he won't be able to raise nearly as much money as Hillary or Obama ...
I don't know, AP, the internet has changed the donations game. Silly, crazy amounts of money were raised 10 bucks at a time for Dems in 2006 through sites like Kos and Atrios, using nothing but Paypal and a request to give.
Don't worry -- Richardson is only proposing that so that he can get elected. He'll be different once he's elected. Or re-elected. Right?
I don't think Hilary can get MoveOn.org money, seing as how she
was heavily criticized by the site's proponents.
I have no idea if Obama can, but Richardson would have a decent
chance if he could swing MoveOn under his banner.
I don't really care though, I'm still moving to Ireland when
Clinton gets elected.
Joe,
I agree that the Dems have showed the ability to raise money
online, but it seems like its been mostly for the leftwing who felt
like they were cut out of party decision-making. Richardson is a
DLC type Dem -- will the "netroots" support him? A lot of those
folks seem to be eating up Edwards populist BS and/or waiting for
Albot v. '08 to declare.
Isn't Richardson pretty strong on immigration and controlling the border? I think he might be the only serious candidate who has a strong position on illegal immigration. If that is true, that alone might get him elected. People are very angry about immigration and tired of being ignored
I think the phrase for Richardson is "the best of a bad
lot."
Among Southwest political insiders, he has a reputation as a bit of
a sleaze and a ladies man. I can hardly wait for to see what
Hillary's "Politics of Personal Destruction" oppo team does with
that.
"Among Southwest political insiders, he has a reputation as a
bit of a sleaze and a ladies man. I can hardly wait for to see what
Hillary's "Politics of Personal Destruction" oppo team does with
that."
If I thougth Hillary would fight half as dirty against the
country's enemies as she does against her political enemies, I
would vote for her.
"Among Southwest political insiders, he has a reputation as a
bit of a sleaze and a ladies man. I can hardly wait for to see what
Hillary's 'Politics of Personal Destruction' oppo team does with
that."
Set them up on a blind date?
People are very angry about immigration and tired of being
ignored
John, Democrats are not as big on the immigration issue as the
Republicans. Of the powerhouse Democratic states, only California
borders Mexico and they will vote Dem anyway. Immigration is not
big on New York's radar screen.
The question to ask is, will this pursuade any dissaffected
Republicans to vote for him in the General election vs McCain or
sitting it out? I don't think he carries enough "conservative" cred
to do that. In otherwords, about the only thing that Richardson
will do is alienate the Democratic core, not a good thing for the
party. He may be an okay candidate from the country's view but I
think the Democratic majority will block him in the Primary.
"The question to ask is, will this pursuade any dissaffected
Republicans to vote for him in the General election vs McCain or
sitting it out?"
I think so. If he is really strong on immigration, I think a lot of
Republican voters would forget all the culture war stuff and vote
for him. Moreover, the only Democrats that are for free immigration
are the hispanics and the rich white ones. The middle class whites
and the black community see it differently. Right now Obama is
doing better among the white voters than he does among black ones.
Who is going to get the black vote in the Democratic primaries if
not Obama? Richardson if he is strong on immigration. A majority of
the black vote and the middle class union vote will get you a long
way in the Democratic primaries.
Anyone want to fact-check that "pro baseball player"
bit?
Richardson for a long while claimed to have been drafted, but
later
admitted it was untrue.
Anyone want to fact-check that "pro baseball player"
bit?
According this story, it doesn't quite measure up.
ALBUQUERQUE, Nov. 24 -- New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson is coming
clean on his draft record -- the baseball draft, that is --
acknowledging that his claim to have been a pick of the Kansas City
Athletics in 1966 is untrue.
It's certainly not the biggest whopper a pol ever came up with
though.
Richardson played baseball in college but never played
"professionally" in the minor or major leagues. He once claimed
that the Kansas City A's drafted him late in 1966 (which is untrue)
but as far as I know he never claimed to be a major or minor league
player.
I lost a lot of respect for Richardson during his tenure as
Secretary of Energy, and I wouldn't vote for him for President on
those grounds alone. But we could do a lot worse.
"I lost a lot of respect for Richardson during his tenure as
Secretary of Energy"
Why? I can't remember anything about him good or bad about him
being Secretary of Energy. What have I forgotten?
Oh, who cares about his resume?
This all comes down to who can raise the most money and has the
nicest hair.
I think Nick's reference to Richardson's baseball career was
supposed to be tongue-in-cheek.
When the facts about the governor's ballplaying past came out,
Richardson gave my all-time favorite confession by a politician
that he hadn't told the truth: "After being notified of the
situation and after researching the matter...I came to the
conclusion that I was not drafted by the A's."
"After being notified of the situation and after researching the
matter...I came to the conclusion that I was not drafted by the
A's."
Wow maybe I was drafted by the Yankees and just didn't know about
it. Perhaps I need to do some research into the matter and see. You
are right Jesses, that is a great confession.
"Why? I can't remember anything about him good or bad about him
being Secretary of Energy. What have I forgotten?"
I think he might be referring to the Wen Ho Lee nuclear espionage
debacle. Richardson was also energy secretary during a lot of other
shameful shenanigans at Los Alamos National Laboratory, including
highly classified hard drives going missing then popping up in zany
places (a practice that apparently continues at LANL...). His
predecessor Hazel O'Leary also oversaw some of that mess, but I
don't know which was worse. Suffice it to say they both sucked.
This from wiki on Richardson's tenure as energy secretary:
---
The Senate confirmed Richardson to be President Clinton's Energy
Secretary on July 31, 1998. His tenure at Energy was marred by the
Wen Ho Lee nuclear espionage scandal. In July 2005 it was alleged
by a Federal judge that Richardson had leaked Lee's name to
reporters months before the scientist was charged with any crime.
Richardson was also sharply criticized by the Senate for his
handling of the espionage enquiry. During Senate questioning,
Senator Robert Byrd (Democrat-West Virginia) scolded Richardson,
stating: "You've ...shown a contempt of Congress that borders on a
supreme arrogance... You will never again receive the support of
the Senate of the United States for any office to which you might
be appointed."
Could somebody remind me why the Dept. of Energy exists anyway?
Oh, right, Jimmy Carter.
Asshole.
Oh God, I had forgotten about Wen Ho Lee. What a mess. Hazel O'Leary is blast from the past. She is probably the most incompetant and corrupt cabinet official in the last 40 years and that is saying something.
Richardson's kind of schlumpy as is his wife. Don't get me wrong
- I have nothing against schlumpy people. Much of America is less
than svelte and stylish.
I just don't know if America is ready to elect Denny Hastert's and
Horatio Sanz's love child.
slightlybad,
I think you're confusing "leftist" with "cut out of the party
decision making." A lot of the candidates most popular among the
Dem netroots during the 06 campaign are pretty moderate on
issues.
Not only that, but Richardson was apparantly a big hit at the
Yearly Kos convention.
Aye, Richardson isn't as fat as he was a few years ago- he
dropped 70 pounds during the last election season to get himself
"fighting trim" for his Presidential race. Now he just looks
big.
As for being a greasy ladies man, well... as long as he can pull
off the Mexican schtick he can probably get away with it. My
experience of New Mexico is that hispanic guys, especially if they
had a moustache and an accent, could get away with being complete
pigs. Just like Obama can get away with cocaine use, while Bush got
dragged through the mud over the allegations.
Richardson is a mixed bag, really... free trader, solid foreign
policy guy, good on gun rights, fiscal disciplinarian, social
liberal- all plusses in his favor. On the other hand- he's at least
slightly corrupt, has a tendency towards cronyism (okay, on the
last two counts he probably wouldn't be any worse than any other
president we've had in the last three decades), can tend towards
nannyism at times (okay, ditto), has no solid stance on immigration
(which could kill him), and he's still a bit of an unknown quantity
in American politics despite his resume (impressive, but oddly low
profile outside of the Southwest).
We'll see. He is- sadly enough- better than most of the candidates
who've announced so far.
Richardson has been a fixer for the Clinton's problems on many occasions. I suspect he's got too much dirt on Hillary for her to attack him. He's probably my best hope to win my mother-in-law's thousand bucks.
He cut taxes here in New Mexico which is rare for a democrat. He also gave an "energy rebate" to every household (e.g. $128 for married couples) because the state took in so much revenue due to the price of oil (New Mexico is one of the few states that has a big surplus, budgetwise). The republican opposition were claiming the rebate should have been five times higher (which I can believe), so I voted for them.
"Just like Obama can get away with cocaine use, while Bush got
dragged through the mud over the allegations."
It seems a little early to say Obama's going to get away with it
since we're still a year away from the first primary. It also seems
like a bit of an exaggeration to say Bush was "dragged through the
mud," at least in the mainstream press (it was more like 1) he was
asked questions about his past cocaine and alcohol use; 2) he gave
some evasive non-answers typical of candidates in his situation
(see Clinton or Gore); 3) there was some slight grumbling; and 4)
it had little to no effect on the outcome of the election).
But if there turns out to be a significant difference in either
direction between how Bush and Obama are treated, it might have
something to do with the fact that Obama took the incredibly novel
(for a politician) approach of actually being candid and honest
about it. I guess time will tell if that approach will help him or
hurt him.
"I just don't know if America is ready to elect Denny Hastert's
and Horatio Sanz's love child."
'ky. Um. Yeah. Could someone please post something to get that
graphic image out of my head... Hell, I can't even figure out how
they'd fit together...
DON'T TELL ME. Some things should remain a mystery...
John says: Isn't Richardson pretty strong on immigration and
controlling the border?
Richardson is a strong supporter of not just IllegalImmigration,
but EthnicNationalism as well.
He's also working with the OrganizationOfAmericanStates to push
their ImmigrationPolicies in the U.S. Details at my link.
Hopefully people will start publicly asking him whether he's
required under the FARAAct to register as a ForeignAgent.
He really does need a good nickname. Big Bill's already been
used (by Taft if not Clinton), and Slick Willie has fortunately
already been used up.
He's my candidate for the moment, unless Al Gore suddenly
declares.
If the insane 'the-messicans-are-out-to-get-us-' crowd is against him, I like him already.
I love the right. I love how they contrive to make words mean
the precise opposite of their actual meaning.
For example, in lonewacko's fomulation, an "ethnic nationalist" is
someone who believes that our national identity has nothing
whatsoever to do with people's ethnicity or culture.
An example of BillRichardson revealing his EthnicNationalistic side at my link. Now, certainly, it's not quite as bad as those AztlanPartisans who've gone as far as promoting genocide, but it is in the same quadrant.
He wants to ban cockfighting in New Mexico.
Dealbreaker right there. I don't live in New Mexico nor have any
participation in game fowl competition but I have decided on
cockfighting as my "single issue".
Now if I was a "lesser -of -two -evils" voter it would be
Richardson over McCain. The senator from AZ has a worse position on
cockfighting than the Governor of New Mexico.
OK here is how I make my choice for President in 2008. Candidate
for legal cockfighting? Got my vote unless there is more than one
then I will weigh candidates on other issues. Candidate takes no
position? Shows some smarts- I'll examine and decide based on those
other less significant issues relating to Individual Liberty and
personal autonomy. Candidate publicly opposes legal
cockfighting?
Enemy of freedom-anti American _I will oppose
agressively. As I realise most people other than libertarians and
gamefowl enthusiasts will not be swayed buy candidates opposition
to cockfighting I will focus my negative persuasion on more popular
wedge issues.
POTUS cadidates who oppose Cockfighting:
Senator John McCain (R)
Governor Bill Richardson (D)
Does anyone know if the other candidates have taken a
position?
I suspect Hilary opposes legal cockfighting.
Ron Paul might support it.
Only official public expressions for or agin
count in my political calculous.
I love the right. I love how they contrive to make words
mean the precise opposite of their actual meaning.
Unfortunately, both sides do this. Just look at the term
"liberal".
Wow, Solitary Lunatic, do you talk back to the Mexican voices in your head? I mean how do you do it? Like aren't they speaking Spanish or something? I mean if you understand the voices I have to wonder what kind of an American you are.
The definition of "liberal" has actually changed, Bret.
The defintions of "ethnic" and "nationalist" have not - they're
just being used to mean the opposite of their accurate
meanings.
The definition of "liberal" has actually changed, Bret.
Not really - just the use of it by socialists. It still means
"suitable for a freeman (Webster's New World Dictionary)
If anyone here ever repeats this, I will call you a liar.
As a diehard Libertarian Republican, I gotta admit Bill Richardson
is a damned good candidate. And he leans libertarian. Last year he
even introduced a proposal to absolish state income taxes for all
Military Personnel. Very cool.
He's the only Democrat worth supporting from a libertarian
perspective. THE ONLY ONE!
And I say this as a Libertarian Republican, the very guy who
founded the Republican Liberty Caucus.
Like I said, if any of you here every repeat that the Great Eric
Dondero has said some nice things about a Democrat, I promise I
will deny it til I'm blue in the face.
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