Katherine Mangu-Ward | January 12, 2007
...James Bedford became the first person to be cryonically frozen:
Although there was at least one earlier aborted case, it is generally accepted that the first person frozen with intent of future resuscitation was Dr. James Bedford, a 73-year-old psychology professor frozen under crude conditions by CSC on January 12, 1967. The case made the cover of a limited print run of Life Magazine before the presses were stopped to report the death of three astronauts in the Apollo 1 fire instead.
Cryonics suffered a major setback in 1979 when it was discovered that nine bodies stored by CSC in a cemetery in Chatsworth, California, thawed due to depletion of funds. Some of the bodies had apparently thawed years earlier without notification. The head of CSC was sued, and negative publicity slowed cryonics growth for years afterward. Of seventeen documented cryonics cases between 1967 and 1973, only James Bedford remains cryopreserved today.
Bedford won't get many benefits for being an early guinea pig anytime soon:
It has often been written that cryonics revival will be a last-in-first-out (LIFO) process. In this view, preservation methods will get progressively better until eventually they are demonstrably reversible, after which medicine will begin to reach back and revive people cryopreserved by more primitive methods. Revival of people cryopreserved by the current combination of neurovitrification and deep-cooling (technically not "freezing", as cryoprotectant inhibits ice crystallization) may require centuries, if it is possible at all.
See you in 2507, Jim.
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Biggest unsolved problem: Removing the freezer burned taste from the mouths of the revived.
NoStar:
Apparently the hot liquid goo stage takes care of that. It's the
internal monologue problems that may prove to be unsurmountable and
thus destroy the program.
(the other problem: taking this in an Austin Powers direction or in
the direction of Idiocracy. decisions. decisions.)
you seem quite enamoured with idiocracy, vm. 3-4 mentions in as
many days. it never showed up in theaters out here in the boonies,
but i may have to rent it just to see what you liked so much.
-cab
Blush. I guess you're right. The movie was just released on DVD,
so I guess that's why I'm finding parallels with current
debate.
/kicks pebble
I don't understand why the people who freeze themselves think
the people of the future will have any obligation to unfreeze them
again, or if their money will be worth anything 500 years down the
road.
Interesting reading on this topic, by the way, is "A World Out of
Time" by Larry Niven. And also his Gil "the ARM" Hamilton
series.
Josh- I don't understand why the people who freeze
themselves think the people of the future will have any obligation
to unfreeze them again,
I have wondered this too. I supose it depends on whether the future
people identify it with their own aspirations of imortality. It's
kind of like ancestor worship in that way.
I don't understand why the people who freeze themselves
think the people of the future will have any obligation to unfreeze
them again, or if their money will be worth anything 500 years down
the road.
There are several reasons why cryonics think they will be
revived:
1) Contractual obligations. Cryonics companies agree to make good
faith efforts to revive you when the technology becomes available.
If they fail to attempt revival, or botch the job, then their
future revenue streams will be cut short.
2) You would revive your Mom wouldn't you? And presumably, she
would revive her Mom. And so on, and so forth. Same goes for your
best friends.
3) Intellectual curiosity. How much do you think historians would
pay to talk on a time phone to someone living a 100 years ago? With
cryonics, they can.
4) Compassion. 100 years from now, reviving someone who was frozen
may cost no more than a couple hundred bucks (in today's dollars).
Many people spend far more feeding stray cats.
As for money, most cryonicists believe that it's better to be
penniless and alive, than rich and dead. Even if their money is
worth nothing by the time they're revived, it would still be worth
it. After all, most babies aren't born rich either. And remember
that any society rich enough to support revival, is also likely to
be rich enough to help you re-integrate into society.
Gahhh - Can you imagine just how bad popular music will be in 100 years, or how dumb the TV shows? Idiocracy, indeed. I think I'll take my chances on Hell (which, after, has Jimi Hendrix and John Lennon, among others).
Niven's take on corpsicles is quite enjoyable (as referenced above), as is Fred Pohl's novella, Age of the Pussyfoot.
Josh--
I don't understand why the people who freeze How themselves
think the people of the future will have any obligation to unfreeze
them again, or if their money will be worth anything 500 years down
the road.
IMO, it's not about any "obligation" to unfreeze someone-- it's
about the curiosity(and wealth) of the 'revivers'...
How much do we currently spend on anthropology,
archeology, history, ancient literature, etc.?
If our descendents are as much wealthier than us as we are compared
to our ancestors, reviving 'corpsicles' will be a charitable
donation comparable to a "National Geographic" membership.
(BTW, if you want a different tale of 'cryptopreservation', I
enjoyed Allen Steele's "A
King of Infinte Space".)
Regarding the Larry Niven story mentioned above, I am not revealing any major spoilers by noting that after you are revived, you generally have to work as a slave for 10 years in order to repay the State (the future totalitarian world government) for bringing you back. (Actually, it's more complicated than that, but that's the gist.)
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