Kerry Howley | December 7, 2006
Sure, the post-Katrina aid effort was looking bleak for a while. But after all the excoriating media coverage, damning GAO reports, and general finger-pointing, humiliated officials rushed to diminish—or at least mask—the stench of noxious government waste. Right? GAO hips us to some fun facts in the ongoing fraud-fest:
The government continues to waste tens of millions of dollars in its Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, including giving rent checks to evacuees already living in free housing and student aid to ineligible foreigners, U.S. investigators said Wednesday.
The Government Accountability Office also found that the Federal Emergency Management Agency has been able to recoup only $7 million of the more than $1 billion in improper payments identified by investigators months ago.
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The worst part is that the "lesson" that the country will take
from this is that the government didn't do enough...both directly
after the hurricane and longer-term afterward.
What I want to know is, if they can't even get the "handing out
free tax dollars to people" part right, what makes anyone think
that they could get anything else right...say, the evacuation or
rescue effort?
The lesson we should take from this is that government is
inefficient, crooked, inbred and woefully incompetent. But we
won't. As with everything else, our collective conscience will
conclude something along the lines of "if what we're doing
isn't working, then let's do MORE of what isn't working, and maybe,
after we do enough non-working things, it'll start to
work".
These stories have it all backwards to me. As a percentage of total spending, the fraud is pretty low. If $1 billion of fraudulent payouts is a travesty, the much larger travesty is that this is actually a pretty reasonable amount, in percentage terms.
Evan:
Next time we will make sure to give a solid gold mansion, a
cotton-candy machine and a pony to everyone from the affected area.
Of course, they will only have to "double spit promise" they are
from the area. We won't do anything wasteful like spend a lot on
making sure they need the aid.
To quote Reagan:. "The ten scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the federal government and I'm here to help'"
Let's see.
I'm Canadian living in Canada.
I live on the opposite edge of the continent from New
Orleans.
In fact, I've never been within 800 miles of New Orleans.
I've never seen a hurricane.
Do you think I could get a FEMA grant for Katrina relief?
Aresen,
Get someone at the NYT, TNR or The Nation to write a story about
how bad society has treated you.
If you need some practice on being downtrodden, visit Seattle and
ask around.
People smarter than a piece of granite knew that a hurricane flooded New Orleans was a certainty. They didn't want to pay for flood insurance. They didn't want to relocate. You and I are supposed to pay for this? This sounds like a job for private charities. As a taxpayer, I think we should have sent one (1) Get Well Soon card and be done with it.
Arsen,
Whatever your problems they are clearly George Bush's fault and the
result of his hating of poor minority people. Clearly, Congress
needs to throw a few billion dollars in pointless aide your way to
make amends.
And I still haven't heard a peep over how rebuilding NO is flat out stupid to begin with.
"The lesson we should take from this is that government is
inefficient, crooked, inbred and woefully incompetent. But we
won't."
Well said Evan , well said.
I was in Houston last May and the local news had a story about Katrina evacuees whose power had been shut off because FEMA has screwed up and not paid the bill. Here were these perfectly healthy looking people who had been given a place to live and 8 months of government dole in a large American city that has an unemployment rate of about 4% and they still didn't have a job and were depending on FEMA to take care of them. It was at that point, if I had been king, I would have cut off every dime of aid relating to Katrina. The whole thing is just rediculous. Yes, we should help people, but that desire to help people shouldn't translate into giving people an endless free ride. At some point bad things happen and it is no longer the government's problem to fix them.
Government...the agency that so many expect to save us from all manner of evil.
Being against government aid in general, I am especially
appalled at a FEDERAL program for this kind of thing. More than 90%
of the country lives in areas that could never be hit with this
kind of disaster. But we all pay for the people who live on the
coast to continue living there every time an "unpredictable"
disaster like this comes up.
What if people actually got insurance? Or assuming people are too
stupid and wasteful to do that, what if the LOCAL and maybe even
State government had a relief and rescue plan in place? Why should
people in Iowa pay for hurricane relief?
The lesson we should take from this is that government is
inefficient, crooked, inbred and woefully incompetent.
Bad logic to assume that just because a government headed by George
W. Bush and cronies is poorly run that all governments are poorly
run.
As a taxpayer, I think we should have sent one (1) Get Well
Soon card and be done with it.
And as a fellow taxpayer I think it's a good thing your type of
thinking is relegated to the loony fringe.
Along the Mississippi in Wisconsin back in the 80's we had massive flooding. Some cities were a total loss. The US Government refused to re-build the old cities. They made all the people relocate to higher ground. They very slowly like explained to the fine people that living in a normal flood zone is stupid. The nice people in Wisconsin complied and moved entire towns to higher ground. Why isn't that type of thinking still being used? No second chances---if you live in a stupid place and refuse to move and your crap gets wet-to bad so sad.
And as a fellow taxpayer I think it's a good thing your type
of thinking is relegated to the loony fringe.
We shouldn't hold the people responsible for their own (bad)
decisions? You know, we're going to get a badass blizzard here in
Detroit. Not tomorrow, but it's going to happen. Anyone smarter
than a turnip knows this. It will kill some people, it will cost
people money. The feds shouldn't do a DAMN THING
when it happens.
At least the Federal Government saved all of us a lot of tax money by not properly maintaining the levees around New Orleans!
We shouldn't hold the people responsible for their own (bad)
decisions? You know, we're going to get a badass blizzard here in
Detroit. Not tomorrow, but it's going to happen. Anyone smarter
than a turnip knows this. It will kill some people, it will cost
people money. The feds shouldn't do a DAMN THING when it
happens.
I disagree. If people need help, especially in an emergency, the
government should provide it to them. How mean-spirited do you have
to be to truly think otherwise?
If people need help, especially in an emergency, the
government should provide it to them. How mean-spirited do you have
to be to truly think otherwise?
The governments job is to allow poeople to take care of themselves,
not take care of them. There is never, ever, going to be a shortage
of "emergencies". They sorta come with life. If realizing this
obvious fact qualifies me as mean spirited, so be it.
Dan T says: "Bad logic to assume that just because a government
headed by George W. Bush and cronies is poorly run that all
governments are poorly run."
Giant leap of faith by you to assume that any federal government
run by whomever you'd chose could have done much better.
Most of the damage done was due to levees being breached, not the
hurricane itself. The Army Corps of Engineers had built the levees
without a proper foundation for the moorings long before the Bush
admin was around.
I will say that if had happenned under a Dem admin, they wouldn't
have been accused of racism in their poor response. It would of
course been due to underfunding of some government agency/program
or another.
doubled
Request for supplimentary authorization, preamble:
"Infinite funding was granted for the project. Unfortunately, this
has not proved sufficient."
[Swiped from "The Journal of Irreproducible Results".}
Before the hurricane came the government put out a warning that
the end of the world was about to hit New Orleans because the water
would pour over the levees and fill up the bowl. The levees would
presumably be blown up to lower the water level back to normal sea
level. (The internet howled about how this was an overreaction.
That howling didn't stop until about a day after Katrina
hit.)
Now the federal government has decided to rebuild the levees so
that New Orleans can once again be destroyed in this end of the
world scenario, which is more likely as sea levels rise and New
Orleans sinks.
My daughters pet rabbit died. To you this may seem like no big
deal but it is Earth shattering to her.
I think the government should step in and make
every American pitch in and help my daughter in her 20 years of
need.
Dan T:
A) Should the US help people who live in dangerous regions escape
and provide basic life necessities until they establish themselves
elsewhere (whether as productive citizens or new city's welfare
problem)?
B) Should the US help the people of New Orleans rebuild their
disaster-prone city with taxpayer dollars, despite the continuing
elevated risk relative to other cities?
C) Should the US provide healthcare to people suffering from
illnesses related to past behavior (chronic heart disease,
diabetes, AIDS, emphysema)?
D) Should the US provide unbiased healthcare coverage to people who
continue to engage in risky behavior (smoking, eating -- gasp! --
trans fats, unprotected sexual intercourse) while also taking no
steps to ban that behavior?
Just curious whether or not you are a hypocrite.
One day in the House of Representatives a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose:
"Mr. Speaker--I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has not the power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member on this floor knows it.
We have the right as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I ever heard that the government was in arrears to him.
"Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks."
He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, no doubt, it would, but for that speech, it received but few votes, and, of course, was lost.
Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation: ...
Davy Crockett - Not
yours to Give
I actually have some semblance of sympathy for FEMA. They are in
a tight spot. One one end, they are shithammered by the left for
"not doing enough". Then they are pounded by the right for wasting
money in the hand-out frenzy.
It would be great if there were an independent commission that
investigated all the fraud, and identified all the thousands who
robbed the taxpayer. Any welfare dependents would be penalized the
amounts that they stole in future hand-outs (and the able-bodied
are put on work details). And any businesses that cheated on their
contracts would be fined.
Any report about the Federal response to Katrina that doesn't
begin with the words "Despite the pre-storm deployment of thousands
of FEMA medical rescure personnel and extensive preplanning of a
coordinated response between the Federal, state and local
govenments" is just simply dishonest.
That said, I tend to take a Sam Kinnison view of disaster relief,
that is give them a way to pack up their stuff and move. "Sand!
It's Sand! You can't live here! Aaaargh!".
I find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution,
and I do not believe that the power and the duty of the General
Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual
suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public
service or benefit.
The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied
upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune. This has been
repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases
encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the
Government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character,
while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly
sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common
brotherhood.
I see that my prediction of the destructive effects of so-called
charity and relief provided by the Federal Government are not
falsified by the events of the last dozen decades.
The government is now being run by people who have no interest
in having the government run well.
Good job, anti-government agitators. Thank God we didn't have Al
Gore filling FEMA with a bunch of goo-goo squares.
You're reaping what you've sown. Let's get the grownups in charge
again.
Joe,
The lesson that you should learn from katrina is that large
government programs like flood control and the army corps of
engineers are often bipartisan ineffective boondoggles.
The Katrina disaster had its roots as a corp of engineers failure
not a fema failure. If the levees had not failed New Orleans
residents would have patched their roofs and moved on. The levees
that failed were constructed over a number of decades under both
republican and democrat control in washington dc.
An interesting article from an engineer who lives in new
orleans
That whole "unforeseeable combination of events" line would be more
believable if the Corps of engineers had not -themselves- tested
the floodwalls and had them fail 20 years ago in the exact same
manner they claimed last week was "unforeseeable."
That's right. The U. S. Army Corps of Engineers KNEW 20 years ago
the design was faulty and they used it anyway. Then they lied
(cough again cough) to cover it up.
Do a search on levees on the site linked above lots of interesting
stuff. Very little that supports the idea that having a different
political party in office would have made any difference in the
situation.
TJIT,
That is certainly one lesson - especially if you highlight the
phrase "are often."
My point: it's a good idea to highlight the distinctions between
those that are and those that are not, rather than blur them. If
you do, you end up making de facto excuses for the people who don't
even try to treat their jobs as anything but sources of
graft.
And while you are right that there are a lot of "couldas" that
would have made a competent FEMA unimportant in this case, there
always are. Nonetheless, there are going to be disasters. Nature's
a bitch that way, and don't even get me started on Man.
Let's call distaster prevention Plan A. I still believe having a
decent Plan B, and the capability to make it work, is an important
function of government.
Quote from the article regarding corps of engineer lab tests 20
years ago that indicated the levee design in new orleans was likely
to fail.
The results of those experiments were widely circulated among corps officials, the foundation engineers said. Further, the researchers involved in the test alerted the New Orleans District, which was overseeing the design of the area's hurricane floodwalls, that its study suggested the need to find new methods to "analyze both the soils supporting the sheet piling and concrete floodwalls, and the sheet pile/floodwalls themselves," the foundation statement said.
Do you think I could get a FEMA grant for Katrina
relief?
Hawaii has an Interstate Highway.
At least the Federal Government saved all of us a lot of tax
money by not properly maintaining the levees around New
Orleans!
So where in all the time since the levees were built is your
example of a Federal, State of Louisiana, or City of New Orleans
government better on this issue than the current Bush regime, given
that none of them even tried to solve the problem?
Are you talking to me, Larry A?
If so, I don't know.
My point was about the federal emergency response under the
"leadership" of Brownie, Chertoff, and Bush. It was vastly inferior
to how the organization was run previous to the Bush
administration.
joe:
You're full of it.
Are you saying that FEMA somehow magically became a crap agency the
moment Junior took office?
I've known a lot of federal first-responders through the years, and
the FEMA horror stories (even during your hero Clinton's admin) are
unending.
I'm no Bush fan by a long shot, but I wonder who you guys are going
to blame for every single conceivable malady once Junior is
gone.
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