Brian Doherty | November 16, 2006
The enemy in Iran, that is. This report from today's LA Times indicates that, despite their official calls to continue to drive the infidel from Iraq, yada yada, there are signs that the Iranian powers-that-be are afraid of what a U.S. troopless Iraq will mean. An excerpt:
On Tuesday night, Tehran's English-language news channel featured commentary from political scientist Pirouz Mojtahedzadeh, who called for the U.S. to remain in Iraq until it has established a strong, stable central government capable of providing adequate security.
"The Americans can't simply withdraw from Iraq, leaving the mess as it is," Mojtahedzadeh said in a telephone interview from the Iranian capital afterward. "Who's going to look for the safety of the Iraqis there? The Iranians can't do it. The Turks can't do it…. This is not a question of political rivalry between Iran and the West. It has to do with the fact that the society has to have a government structure in place."
Analysts familiar with official thinking say there is growing support for views like Mojtahedzadeh's within Iran's professional foreign policy establishment, if not within the hard-line circles closest to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad....
"They've not said it directly and openly as an official policy line, that they'd like the U.S. to stay, but I think there's a sense among the Iranians that they understand that the U.S. cannot just leave immediately," said Hadi Semati, an Iranian political analyst who is a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution.
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crazy talk. how can we be expected to invade iran if we're held down in the menial task of controling iraq?
I think the story here is why there is such a thing as "Teheran's English-language news channel." Obviously it's more than a mouthpiece for the mullahs. What else does it show?
"there are signs that the Iranian powers-that-be are afraid of
what a U.S. troopless Iraq will mean"
If one wishes to posit a theory that doesn't depend upon the
Iranian government adopting an altruistic concern for Iraqi Arabs
as a central plank of its foreign policy, one could view this as
evidence that our Iraq adventure is advancing the interests of
Iran, and of its theocratic leaders, so effectively that they don't
want it to end.
One could go so far as to suggest that the damage the war is doing
to us militarily, economically, psychologically, and diplomatically
is in the interest of the Iranian regime, and they wish to see us
do ourselves further damage.
I think we' better to get Chalabi on the phone to tell us what this all means.
Couldn't this just be a matter of fearing an unencumbered US
military or an unfettered Kurdish or Sunni militia rather than
actually worrying about an "unstable" Iraq?
It's not like there will be a flood of Iraqi refugees flooding
their borders. Despite the catastrophic violence, it is Iran that
is the economic basket case, not Iraq.
Iran: "Yes, please stay in Iraq, so we can continue to orchestrate a low-level proxy war against you there."
I thought the Iranian president wanted the three Iraq solution partly because it has something to do with beingt a sign that the mahdi or hidden imam or Paul maud'dib is returning?
Maybe I'm naive, but could Iranians actually care about the well
being of Iraqis? I know it sounds crazy but is it unreasonable to
think that these guys have any human feelings at all at least to
their fellow Muslims?
Bring the troops home and let Iran try to put down the Sunni
insurgency.
B.P.,
"Inshallah, we will fight them in Basra, so we won't have to fight
them in Bam."
"Oh, yes, Uncle Sam, you just keep fighting that tar baby. Just keep hitting him and punching him until he behaves himself."
This is just the "terrorists have already won" argument in
reverse. Iranians want us to stay in Iraq, so therefore we
should leave?
I mean, we should leave, but that's not among the good reasons for
doing so.
That said, I guess it's a good sign for American poltical discourse
that the reactionary pendulum is starting to swing the other
way.
...But it would be better if both sides would just stop accusing each other of helping the enemy.
I'm convinced that Iranian Intelligence played us like chumps - Curveball and Chalabi. Like some neighborhood bullies who convince the retarded kid on the block to take a whack at a wasp nest.
I'm with de stijl. One look at the suits Chalabi wears should
have been enough to convince everyone he was a playa, but he like
all good con men, he told gullible people what they wanted most to
hear.
You know, by the time Hitler's forces crossed the frontier, Stalin
was so determined that the people warning him about an impending
attack were lying that the refused to believe his field officers
when they said they were under attack. If you go back to 2001 or
2002 issues of National Review, you can see the same thing - the
mere act of treating Ahmed Chalabi as unreliable (as the State
Department and CIA did) was treated as proof that they were
dishonest and incompetant. As evidence of Chalabi's dishonesty came
forward, all it did was make them shoot the messenger.
He played this administraion like chumps, and the only saving grace
is that he's problably just playing his Iranian backers for chumps,
too.
<em>One look at the suits Chalabi wears should have been
enough to convince everyone he was a playa, </em>
Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
And BTW, Christopher Hitchens still believes in me.
Or maybe, just maybe, they figure that the Syrians, the Saudis
the Kuwaitis, the Jordanians, and the Turks will be putting money
and their people in Iraq. Without the US putting anykind of a lid
on it.
They would need to put their money and their forces in there to act
as a counterbalance. And of course they would be overwhelemd. They
don't have the money or the recources to compete with all the other
countries.
Hell, it would not surprise me if George Bush was in the pay of Iran this entire time. Everything we have done in the middle east during this war has benefited Iran.
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