November 3, 2006
Reason editors open up their diaries and declare their political preferences for election 2006.
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Go Jacob Sullum. Another vote for Kinky. With all I keep
hearing, he'll be the cult hit of the century, or atleast keep
Perry from getting even 1/3 of the vote.
I continue to defy the naysayers.
The view that votes don't count per mathematics is one of those things that's easy to state, hard to refute, and yet still gives me a sense that there's something wrong with it. Someday I'd like to see a rigorous mathematical and philosophical analysis of that.
Although it was hard to pass on kinky, and believe me I thought
hard about it for like a whole 10 seconds or so, I still went with
James Werner. Primarily because he has a 'nickname the governor'
contest.
http://www.nametheguv.com/suggestions/listtop10
I recently had the distinct pleasure of voting for a winning
candidate and feeling good about it.
That's right, my thesis advisor won a high office in a professional
society.
Hey, it's better than nothing.
I'm surprised at how many people won't be voting. And while I
realize that the mathematics of their reasoning is sound, I can't
help but notice that it lowers the concentration of an already
dilute group of principled small government voters. Let's put it
this way, if a Senate race goes to Politician A by a 3-2 margin
(not a ratio, but 3 votes to 2 votes), he'll still have the same
seat with the same power and he'll still claim a mandate for his
views. Voting doesn't "increase the legitimacy of the goverment" or
anything like that because they're going to claim legitimacy no
matter the turnout and no one will oppose that claim. So while
voting doesn't help, not voting doesn't help, either.
Also, I live in Radley's neck of the woods and agree with him
except that I'm voting for McWhatever (R) for Congress. Just
because he'll only get 30% of the vote and he's not the incumbent.
Moran is a grade-A jackass.
Well, I'm less than stunned by Mangu-Ward's party
affiliation...but what sort of party affiliation can you say you
have if you don't ever vote?
Is it more of a "these are the people I cheerlead for" thing?
Voting is fun, like filling out web questionnaires. Especially this year, when I will have the pleasure of adding my droplet to the (much anticipated) wave of scented body wash that will flush Sen. Frothy out of office.
For those of you who are not voting, I assume this means you don't think much of the "divided government" argument. I bought in, so I am going to the polls, holding my nose all the way.
I'll be voting for Webb and Weed. I'll only be voting for weed
though, because I'll hit Goode, then Weed, so I can say I voted for
Good Weed. Both suck, though Goode seems like a total asshole. At
least Weed doesn't support the deportation of all eleven million
illegal immigrants.
From Goode's website: "I support legislation to correct the anchor
baby situation, whereby a child of illegal aleins [sic] is an
automatic citizen of the United States."
I assume that he means a child born in the United States. The
"legislation" that would be required to change this would be the
28th Amendment to the Constitution (14th amendment establishes that
all those born in the country are citizens). In any event, illegal
immigrant parents have lost the right to stay in the US even if
they have a US citizen child. Which effectively means the child is
deported, but immigration law is a whole another (depressing)
story.
I also bought into the divided government argument. I also can't wait to vote against Sen. Santorum.
I'm registered in my district in New Mexico... but I don't know
if I'll bother to vote...
Governor: I may vote for New Mexico Uber Alles... err.. Bill
Richardson, simply because his policies seem to be working and he's
got a solid pro-gun record. That, and his opponent is a moron. But
Richardson's also a corrupt cronyist Clintonite, so it's hard to
get too worked up over wanting to support him- that, and he'll win
anyway.
Senate: There's no real contest here... Bingaman could sodomize a
goat on live television tomorrow and still win the election. Maybe
I'll give a write in for Cthulhu or Donald Duck.
Representative: This one is hard- very hard. I'm of the "VOTE
GRIDLOCK" camp, but frankly, Patricia Madrid repells me. I have
little love for Heather Wilson, and the libertarian index over at
Freedom Dems gives little to recommend her, but she still seems
slightly better than Madrid. Undecided, though leaning towards
Madrid, if only to tick off my boss and cancel his vote.
Local/Constitutional: Down-the-line GOP. Gotta keep American
Caudillo... err... Richardson honest.
Oh, and an obvious NO on the taxes and bond issues. That's a "no
brainer".
Voting in New Mexico- choosing between corrupt Democrats and stupid
Republicans.
As excusers of LP election performances of years past, these guys really need to be punching the LP ballot. Shit, start getting over 5% and I might even switch from the GOP. But Democratic votes only raise my taxes, principled or not, and I can never forgive you.
(slight off topic) Look at all you virginia settled mofos. Looks
like Virginia shoulda beat New Hampshire for free state project or
whatnot.
(Plus Richmond crushes Manchester in terms of every and
anything.)
Virginia strains under the hordes of policy wonks that live in Northern Virginia. Arlington County will eventually become a swamp as it sinks into the Potomac.
I once voted against a school property tax that LOST by one
vote.
Damn! My vote finally counted!
They stole it in the recount, of course.
it's a boring year to vote in illinois.
99% of all litter dumped on my property for candidates has been for
judicial retention questions.
the governor's race has been quiet down here, but then again, it's
a chicago thing anyway. neither candidate attracts or repels me in
any significant way.
i'm sending my rep (shimkus) packing.
I just saw David Weigel's fantasy about Webb going after
Rumsfeld.
If he can make Donald Rumsfeld cry, I'll follow him into Hell.
So 4 of 9 Libertarians don't believe in voting, eh? That might explain something...
If enough people of an identifiable group stay at home, eventually candidates will pay attention to them to see if they can grab the votes.
I'm registered Bull Moose, and I plan to vote by chest
size.
Actually, I'm still registered GOP, which I've disclosed here
before, but I usually vote LP or whatever vote makes me the most
renegade in the eyes of mainstream politicians. For the record, I
keep the GOP status to be able to vote for one of the major parties
in the primaries. Lots of fun, let me tell you, because I vote for
the person who isn't supposed to win 90% of the time.
Our races in Florida are just icky this year. Our candidates for
governor suck (my Congressman is one of the candidates,
incidentally), as do our candidates for the Senate. We have less
interesting constitutional amendments this time around, too. I
wanted to vote for a moonbase or something cool, but nope, nothing
like that.
Since federalism is dead anyway, shouldn't we be able to vote for as many offices as we please. I would really love to vote against Santorum.
You're in Florida and you plan to vote by chest size? So you're really going to vote for Katherine Harris?
FinFangFoom,
Yeah, she wins that battle, hands down. Too bad her looks and her
body don't match. Sure, why not? Unless there's a lib candidate,
anyway. She's nuttier than a bag of peanuts, but I don't like
Nelson, either. Though he is an astronaut and stuff. Sort of.
Anyway, I could vote for her because she wins the most surreal
candidate award. That always appeals to me.
I vote like Ron Bailey - to punish.
That's why I am voting against Blago in Illinois.
Downstater,
Blago has been a giant dickweed. He has royally screwed the
mortgage industry in Illinois, and he's even more corrupt than the
Illinois Republican Party. Vote Topinka. At least she ain't
Blago.
For the record, the only other voting I'll be doing is against
retention for every judge on the ballot. Again, I aim to
punish.
Blago is not popular in our house. he's been crap for teachers
(which i know gets no sympathy around here, but whatever). Topinka
seems to be okay in her education plans except for the nebulous
"accountability" plank which usually translates to flogging
teachers for failing junior when he doesn't do homework and parents
who expect schools to raise their kids.
the illinois gop thought alan keyes was a good idea. ryan is in the
pen. i think blago has a ways to go before being worse than the
state gop.
as far as the judges, i'm not familiar enough with them (despite
the massive mailings - i just don't read them all). i don't have
any reason to punish any particular judge.
So H&R staffers are overwhelmingly east coast elites! I
might have known.....
FWIW (not much) many ballot slots go unmarked. Tom Mclintock, tho
more than I like a wild eyed kook, gets LtGov nod. ANYTHING that
raises $ for the State: no. Anything that limits how the State can
spend, or sieze: yes.
Ill vote against the ghastly Fienstien. Is there a Libertarian
opposing her? I dont know. Ditto in my Rep district- Im voting
against Hunter, the foul swine. Looks like default Dem there, as I
want him out, & the Lib. candiate hasnt offered up a single
reason to vote for him, & thus not the Dim, who might flush
this foul creature out of office.
Hopes? Pelosi gets hit by a car, someone puts LSD in the majority
Dim house coffee pot, & they try & condemn hundreds of neo-
& republithug predecessors. That avian flu put a dent in the Md
crow population, vast numbers of repubs swinging from gibbets might
offer up sustenance to thier depleted tribe.
Then the Dims, realizing they actually DID SOMETHING not utterly
offensive, do a Bob Jones, leaving us all, finally in peace.
But thats too much to ask. Dim House, Dim Senate, Iraq troops home
in 5 mos, Afghanistan......well convince me it just wont be screwed
up again. And think about it: Bush is a lil rich boy who gets
everything he wants, thru life, w/o penalty. His meltdown might be
amusing.
Or give em ALL to Cthulu.
The far right wackos in the Illinois Republican Party got tossed
a bone when Keyes ran here. They had been bellyaching that the
reason the Repubs were doing poorly in Illinois was that they were
too moderate socially. Topinka, as the head of the state party,
essentially said, "Oh yeah, you think that's the problem? You think
far far right nutjob Keyes can win? Go ahead. Run him." She did
nothing to support Keyes, and she knew better than wasting somebody
electable against Obama with so little time to prepare a
campaign.
I have a soft spot for George Ryan because of the death penalty
thing, so I don't hold him against the Repubs.
Regarding the judges, most people go right down the list and vote
"Retain" (I read that somewhere, can't remember the numbers), so I
do my part by voting against every single one.
Especially this year, when I will have the pleasure of
adding my droplet to the (much anticipated) wave of scented body
wash that will flush Sen. Frothy out of office.
I envy you that. The only interesting race I got to vote for was
Coroner, and that was only because I got to chuckle madly as I
wrote in Quincy, ME. Nobody else seems to enjoy the joke,
though.
Pro Lib:
are you voting for the state constitutional amendment to make it
harder to pass state constitutional amendments?
It is rather sad and disappointing that so many people who make their living on politics still refuse to vote in an election. My vote has never counted, especially once I switched to straight Lib anyway, but still its only about 30 minutes of my life no more than twice in any year. Geez, didn't they ever teach you about how voting is one of the responsibilities of citizens in a democracy?
I would like to make a special call to all of you who are not
voting either because you feel your vote doesn't count, because you
can't stand anyboy on the ballot, or feel that anybody who does
vote has no right to complain.
Even though you are absolutely correct on all counts, I ask you to
go to the polls and cast an anti-vote. An anti-vote is a vote for
"None of the Above". Of coure, you will have to write it in, which
can be time consuming but I feel it is ultimately worthwhile.
The benefits of casting a vote against every candidate on the
ballot are manifold:
1) It lowers those parasites' vote totals. Remember when Bill
Clinton got less than 50% of the vote? Wans't it wonderful when the
"winners" couldn't claim the support of the majority? OK, it
sucked, but it sucked less than having to listen to George Bush
crow that for the first time in a decade that he had support of
greater than 50% of the population.
2) You can complain when the winner robs, hurts or murders people
in your name, since you didn't vote in support of the system.
3) You don't have to listen to pundits bemoan your "apathy".
Instead you can laugh as they complain about your lack of faith in
the democratic system. That sort of complaining is so much sweeter
to the ear. Well at least to mine, anyway.
3) If enough people do it, it throws a real monkey wrench in the
election, since they'll have to count write-ins to do determine a
winner. Imagine a Florida style delay while they are laboriosuly
tallying the non-machine readable ballots. The formal candidates
having to trade barbs while waiting on tenterhooks to find out
which one will get to wallow in the trough.
4) And last but not least, if NOTA should ever come up as the
winner, there will be a wonderful crisis as people argue whether
the first loser should be anointed as the winner, or if they should
re-do the election.
NOTA will not rob your neighbor to pay for your child's schooling.
NOTA will not rob your neighbor for to pay for your medical bills.
NOTA will not try to bring back conscription. NOTA will never vote
to send your friends who are soldiers to kill people or die in a
foreign land. NOTA will never try to outlaw tomatoes because they
have funny knobs on it. NOTA will never jack up the price of sugar
to favour the corn industry. NOTA will never embarass you by being
caught in the sack with a live boy or dead woman. NOTA will never
try to deny you access to medicines. NOTA will never give his
brother-in-law's company an edge over yours via tax-breaks or
handouts. NOTA will never advocate insane economic policies that
will bring about a depression.
Vote against everyone - Vote NOTA ... for the children. :)
s/anyboy on the ballot/anybody on the
ballot/
s/George Bush crow that for the first time in a decade that he had
support of greater than 50% of the population/George Bush crow that
for the first time in a decade that a president
had support of greater than 50% of the population/
Blago has been a giant dickweed. He has royally screwed the
mortgage industry in Illinois, and he's even more corrupt than the
Illinois Republican Party. Vote Topinka. At least she ain't
Blago.
Yeah, I'll probably do that myself - but she's gonna lose anyway.
Not sure she's any improvement, but if she manages to pull it out
of the fire, at least I get to look a different asshole talking to
me out of the TV for the next four years. That's something,
anyway.
As for the rest of the ballot, I'm not sure I can bring myself to
vote for anyone. I'll probably vote for the Libertarians, or any
other 3rd party on the ballot, if one is available. If not, voting
against the incumbent is as good as a strategy as any.
I'll probably need a few strong drinks before visiting the
polls.
" I'll probably need a few strong drinks before visiting the
polls."
Here, here.........
biologist,
I'm torn, but I think I'm going to vote for it. I just have an
aversion to the state constitution becoming just another list of
statutes. Pigs, bullet trains, classroom size, etc. should be in
the Florida Statutes, not the Florida Constitution. To me, the
constitution should focus more on structural and process issues,
with some extra civil liberties protections thrown in.
Pro Lib:
I agree in principle, but this is a terrible solution. what we need
is a constitutional amendment to allow statues to be passed by
referendum, not make it harder for us to influence our government
directly
I'm voting no
Yeah, well, that's my problem with it. Still, I fear this may be
the only "improvement" we're likely to get. I've changed my mind
about this before, so I may again.
I heard on NPR today that something like 2/3 of all of the
amendments were put on the ballot by the legislature, so the
effectiveness of the Florida referendum process is questionable.
I'd also be happier if people didn't seem to vote "yes" by
default.
I would like to thank Brian Doherty for his excellent article
"Not Voting and Proud".
I now have some philisophical ground to stand on.I have been told
more than once that greater men then me have died for my right to
vote.In my history class I don't remember a war for universal
suffrage or even a war for white middle class voting rights.
If the voters enact statutes, what's to keep the legislators from repealing them?
I go by the principle that if I read the referendum and don't
know what it does, I vote against it.
Alternatively, I look in the Daily Oklahoman and vote the other
way.
Hmmm...3 D's, 2 Lib's, 1 R and 3 squishies. Somewhere, the
Kossacks are collectively wetting their pants.
No Senate race in GA and my Rep is safe as long as he wants his
seat. Fortunately, I have a full slate of Libertarians I can vote
for in state races. Yeah, I know none of them will win, but a vote
for either an R or D is a vote for the status quo. It ought to be
obvious to anyone paying attention that the Power Party wants us to
go away. That's why ballot access has become increasingly
restricted. That's the best reason for dragging your butt down to
your local elementary school and voting 3rd party. It pisses the
R's and D's off and that's worth 20 minutes of my time.
What's sad is this myth of "divided government". If it works at
all, it's not this version of it. Last time we had a squishy R and
a D congress, the congress held up Bushie the Elder for higher
taxes so he could fund the troops in the Gulf. Do you people have
no memory? With a D controlled Congress, we can expect a higher
minimum wage, higher capital gains tax and bridges to nowhere in
Tennessee instead of Alaska. This will be the type of Ransom Bushie
will pay to keep the same level of troops in Iraq. Seen this movie
before.
For those Texans interested, I believe the Kinky Friedman return
watch party is at Scholtz's here in Austin. I'll be there for as
long as they'll tolerate my darling brats. (Darling Husband will be
in Houston, in trial, in federal court, all next week. I hate being
a single mother.)
Pro L, is there any truth to the rumor that a former male aide to
Katherine Harris had an affair with the male Republican candidate
for Governor out there? I heard someone gossiping tonight while we
were eating about that.
Nick! What are you thinking by not voting in Ohio?!?! You have a
chance to vote agaist the NAMBLA-loving joker who decertified the
Libertarian Party on a bullshit technicality as Secretary of
State.
I can't think of a better way to spend my vote than to vote against
the big chump Kenneth Blackwell.
And at the very LEAST you could be voting no on the five state
issues, like all the stupid anti-smoking ones.
Please do it, Nick. Do it for ME!
Harpua-
There's at least some reason to hope that with the D's in charge of
Congress the President won't be able to get away with torturing
people and holding them without trial.
But, yeah, I agree, this isn't the ideal divided government. The
ideal divided gov't would be R Congress, D President.
Still, you play the cards you're dealt.
BTW, it's rather sad that a good chunk of the Reason staff can't
even be bothered to show up and vote against somebody.
(I didn't say a word about voting FOR anybody.)
Except Katherine Mangu-Ward: Stick with your plan to not vote.
In WI, I'm voting for Tim Peterson (Libertarian) for State
Treasurer. He's the LPWI's only statewide candidate, so he needs to
get 1% of the vote to maintain ballot status for 2008. I'll write
in LPer Dave Redick, who was unable to make the ballot, `cause,
what the hell. Herb Kohl, who bought the seat years ago, will win
in a walk. The only suspense is how badly he will beat the unfunded
nobody the GOP are running against him.
I may vote for the incumbent Democrat for Milwaukee County sheriff,
just because he pisses the local establishment off. He's an
African-American, and widely suspected of being a secret
Republican, because he's socially conservative. The Reps are
running a state trooper who is the tool of the deputies' union.
Still, for that office, and countless others, i just may write in
NOTA. It is easy enough to do on our computer-scannable paper
ballots, which have a write-in space for every office.
I'll vote "No" on the death penalty advisory referendum, and on the
"No gay marriage, no civil unions" Constitutional Amendment. I wish
I could do that with the caveat that extension of benefits to
spouses or spouse-equivalents of public employees not be allowed,
except as a perk negotiated in collective bargaining, so that the
added cost could be offset by dropping other benefits. What I'd
really druther is an amendment privatizing marriage!
I will also follow my ritual of ostentatiously refusing an I
Voted! lapel sticker, and admonish the Nice Old Ladies handing
them out to "save the taxpayers some money!"
Kevin
I did my usual trick and voted for myself... five times, this
go-round (Governor, US Senate, Attorney General, State House, State
Senate).
http://forum.psdtc.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1889
JMJ
post-election prediction: katherine harris will be in the next
john waters film.
can you believe it, my congressman has no republican opposition,
only a libertarian.
All my local candidates, including my US House rep, are
unopposed liberal Democrats. My Senate race is between Santorum and
Casey, neither of which I can stomach. Santorum is terrible on
social issues and relatively terrible on fiscal ones. Casey is
terrible on fiscal issues and relatively terrible on social ones.
All the third party candidates have been tossed off the
ballot.
My only reason for voting would be to lodge a protest vote against
Ed Rendell (who wants to raise the 6% sales tax), but he'll cruise
to victory anyway. So for the first time in my entire life
(including odd years), I won't be voting.
It's a little disheartening to see so many Reason staffers
exhorting people not to vote. If the whole thing is irrelevant, why
cover politics at all? What would be the point? The only leverage
we have on the politicians, as near as I can tell, is the implied
threat to vote them out of office. I don't think many congressmen
are really troubled by low turnout: it makes it that much easier to
swing the election by "moblizing the base."
Even if you plan to vote for an obvious loser, the implication that
you are engaged in the process makes a politician wary of offending
the majority that is not part of his base. Even if third-parties
cannot get traction, a measurable minority in dissent will cause
the major parties to look for ways to co-opt the third party's
program. That is, you change the major party's platform by openly
rejecting both parties at the ballot box.
Why do you think the Democrats are making noises about accomodating
libertarians in their big tent? They know the libertarian right is
disaffected with the Republican Party and they might be willing to
make some compromises in their platform to pick up some votes. Call
it cynical, or too little, too late, or just take what you can
get.
I find the assertion that voting is meaningless to be empty and
vapid, especially in a political reporter. It would be like someone
who covers celebrities without ever bothering to go to a movie. You
got the vote; you got the courts; you got public protest. A person
serious about changing things uses every weapon at hand, even those
that appear feeble.
post-election prediction: katherine harris will be in the
next john waters film.
That's brilliant! She'd be perfect.
"I find the assertion that voting is meaningless to be empty and
vapid"
Seconded...assertion goes to a vote...
Robert Goodman | November 3, 2006, 10:12pm | #
If the voters enact statutes, what's to keep the legislators from
repealing them?
nothing - but what keeps legislated statutes from being repealed -
the same thing, nothing. however, with a popularly enacted statute,
legislators would be directly, knowingly defying the will of the
people, and would be risking their positions in the next election.
alternately, a constitutional amendment to allow popularly enacted
statutes could be written to require a supermajority of some sort
to be overturned. the Florida bullet train is a requirement of our
constitution, but they're getting around it somehow (I haven't been
paying close attention, but I think the bullet train is dead, and
done legally)
There was an amendment last election to repeal the bullet train
in florida
I voted early
there is a libertarian runing for gov in florida (alltho he is
listed as NPA) John Wayne Smith
i figured why not
with the middle name of Wayne, you know he's a serial
killer
not that there's anything wrong with that...
there is a libertarian runing for gov in florida (alltho he
is listed as NPA) John Wayne Smith...
I have met John Wayne Smith (as has anyone who has at one time or
other been involved in the Florida LP); he is a serious nutcase.
However if I was still bothering to vote he'd have gotten mine. If
the Democrats had nominated Rod Smith I could have voted for him
without holding my nose. Since they chose a typical Washington,
east coast liberal type, screw them.
I used to vote to have my say on the initiatives but I'm afraid
I've had it with the game.
...is there any truth to the rumor that a former male aide
to Katherine Harris had an affair with the male Republican
candidate for Governor out there?
There have been rumors about which way Charlie Crist swings for a
time now. His opponent in the primary tried to use his acceptance
of civil unions (with a sort of "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" tone)
against him. However, the possibility that might be something to
the rumors is news to me.
As near as I can tell, these particular allegations do not have any
widespread acceptance. Crist seems to be on track to win the
election, with a significant number of Democrats ready to cross
over to vote for him.
Keep in mind, there were rumors about Marc Foley for years before
he was exposed by the page scandal, so I suspect all bets are off
on this. The interesting thing is that Foley was considered a
"libertarian republican" until he started along his "protect the
children line".
To my mind, the worst that can be said of Charlie Crist is that he
might be something of a mental lightweight. When he ran for
Attorney-General his opponent brought up the fact that he took
several tries (I've forgotten how many) to pass the Florida Bar.
However, he strikes me as a rather nice fellow and, if I'm not
mistaken, the bar exam is fairly tough and the ability to pass
tests is not always as indicator of a fellow's competence.
Crist strikes me as a lightweight, but he also seems way too
much a political creature for my tastes. I don't expect a lot of
principle from the man, that's for sure. Karen, I haven't heard
that rumor, yet. I know a few politicos here--I'll have to see what
they know.
I voted today. I actually really did vote for Harris, because I
thought it was funny to do so (I'm a little concerned how
unseriously I'm taking the vote these days). I also, after a few
minutes thought, voted for Amendment 3 (the harder referendum
deal). biologist, what convinced me may have been the point you
raised above--the legislature is ignoring the more asinine
amendments, anyway, which in my mind is very bad. What good is the
constitution if it doesn't compel the government to act or
not act in a certain way? I'd rather have fewer initiatives and
more legitimacy. Probably won't get that either, of course :(
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