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9/11 Is Definitely Over

| August 4, 2006

This story might already be stale in Montana, but I only just got wind of it here in Baltimore:

[T]he three men were sitting in the Billings airport waiting for their flight when [Sen. Conrad] Burns approached them with an outstretched hand and asked if they were firefighters.

"I shook his hand and replied yes," Templeton wrote. "He shook my hand, introduced himself and then replied, 'What a piss poor job' we were doing. I replied, 'Have a nice day.' The senator mentioned that we were 'wasting a lot of money and creating a cottage industry.' He also told us that we needed to listen more to the ranchers. I replied that 'we are pretty low on the totem pole.' Then he walked off."

A ritual apology soon followed, in which the senator declared that firefighters do "the hard, tough job of battling one of Mother Nature's toughest beasts." That's the difference between Washington and Hollywood: A mere movie star would have blamed the bottle and suggested darkly that the firemen were Jews.

← And Then We Will Bomb the… | Main | Sam Brownback's Death With Indignity Act →

|8.4.06 @ 12:38PM|

Wow that is some remarkable self-restraint on the firemen's part. I'm surprised the Senator isn't wearing a new set of dentures.

The Wine Commonsewer|8.4.06 @ 12:42PM|

That's like telling your kid that your wife needs to go on a diet. Nothing the kid can do about it.

|8.4.06 @ 12:44PM|

Wow that is some remarkable self-restraint on the firemen's part

I would've been tempted to show him close up my demo of "piss-poor" by taking a leak on his rich, overpaid ass.

|8.4.06 @ 12:46PM|

Not to defend Burns too much here, but there is some background to the incident -- his constituents complaining that the Forest Service didn't seem to care about fires on their property. Of course, he's addressing this problem to the wrong people, but it's not like he just randomly decided to accost some firefighters one day.

|8.4.06 @ 12:51PM|

On behalf of firefighters everywhere: Fuck That Guy.

|8.4.06 @ 1:08PM|

When I RTA, the firefighters in question were out-of-state fire fighting contractors from Virginia. Nothing out of the ordinary about a provincial politician stomping all over the virtues and quality of underprepared (or undersupplied/overpromising) out-of-state service providers, especially in the event of a less-than-perfect outcome for screaming, land-owning, voting constituents.

Government contracting: it's a thankless job.

|8.4.06 @ 1:12PM|

hmmm the firefighters do get work fighting fires that should not be put out...ie the cottage industry comment.

Cronyism is cronyism even if it perpetrated by a strapping handsom blue collar firefighter.

That's the difference between Washington and Hollywood: A mere movie star would have blamed the bottle and suggested darkly that the firemen were Jews.

this did make me giggle a little though

|8.4.06 @ 1:20PM|

I loved the last graf of the article that indicated that the problem was really all because of those bad journalists. As usual. When are you guys going to figure out that it's not a problem if you don't write about it?

|8.4.06 @ 1:32PM|

That's the difference between Washington and Hollywood: A mere movie star would have blamed the bottle and suggested darkly that the firemen were Jews.

For what it's worth, Mel Gibson probably isn't "Hollywood". He was an Hollywood outsider long before the recent incident--at least since The Passion.

Jesse Walker|8.4.06 @ 1:34PM|

Of course, he's addressing this problem to the wrong people

That's the point. I have no problem believing that Montana's firefighting priorities are screwed up, but this is classic martinet behavior -- something's gone wrong and you can't fix it, so you find someone of lower status and kick him.

D.A. Ridgely|8.4.06 @ 1:35PM|

A mere movie star would have blamed the bottle and suggested darkly that the firemen were Jews.

Jews? In Montana?

|8.4.06 @ 2:00PM|

Good grief. Burns behaved like the AH who berates the constable who serves him with divorce papers. Seriously, I agree with Jesse Walker, this is the behavior of a bully. Why go out of his way to insult the firefighters? Generally I avoid speaking to people I dislike, and I don't see anything that required the Senator to do what he did. Why not call a press conference or issue a release condemning the contractors instead of insulting the poor guys actually manning the hoses?

|8.4.06 @ 2:00PM|

The firefighters probably drove past the rancher's burning fields because there is a method to fighting every fire, including wildfires, that may not be apparent to bystanders. Wildfires, especially, are fought across a very large front.
Still, there are plenty of those who are happy to offer advice. At a large fire where I live, a local bigwig approached the rear exterior team (which I was on) and demanded to know why we weren't throwing water yet. The answers were:
We weren't yet hooked into a hydrant.
The fire was not accessable from our area yet.
Half our team was busy evacuating the neighboring building.
And, finally, we had an interior team working from the front of the building. One does not direct high-pressure streams against a crumbling brick building when your people are inside it.

But this guy knew better. Or so he thought.

|8.4.06 @ 2:20PM|

Number 6,

I think I know that guy, he was LCDR John Baldwin of the US Navy wasn't he?

Ken Layne|8.4.06 @ 3:00PM|

That is the best headline I've seen in a while ... awesome.

|8.4.06 @ 3:53PM|

"Managing these fires from Boise does not work." So the Senator thinks that attempting to direct it from Washington is going to? What an asshat.

Burns, as in destroying by fire.

|8.4.06 @ 5:40PM|

Here we see yet another reason Senator Burns is falling behind in his bid for re-election.

|8.4.06 @ 6:10PM|

Jews? In Montana?

Montana. Nickname: The Gantseh Sky Country.

BTW, anybody can say whatever they want about firefighters, but chicks really, really, really dig them.

|8.4.06 @ 6:55PM|

Im a Montana landowner....never mind that asshole. Thanks for helpin...I owe ya all a few beers at least.
Christ, pols are embarrasements.

|8.4.06 @ 7:46PM|

That senator that hates spending a dime on firefighters wants to spend $5 million to train insects to sniff out explosives (ht tip FARK)

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2006/08/04/news/state/25-bees.txt

|8.5.06 @ 12:03AM|

That is the best headline I've seen in a while ... awesome.

Praise from Caesar!

|8.5.06 @ 5:05PM|

If they don't like the firefighters I'm paying for, let 'em hire their own. And, on that note, if New Orleans doesn't like the levees I paid for, let 'em build their own.

Sheesh.

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Maybe the esteemed (and pressed) Senator should have the firefighting work outsourced to India.

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