Nick Gillespie | July 17, 2006
From smacky:
There will be a NYC Hit and Run gathering on the evening of Saturday, July 22nd.
The gathering will be at 6pm at Revival Bar, located at 129 E. 15th Street, NYC. The bar website is http://www.revivalbar-nyc.com/.
Among many other refinements, Revival features an outdoor heated smoking garden patio!
All Hit and Run commenters, lurkers, and Reason staff are welcome to attend! We are hoping for a really big turnout and a really good time. Hope to see you there!
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Well, y'all never did anything in Barstow but I'm moving to Kansas City (I hear they have a lot of prety women there) so how about some something in KC?
Barstow Freak- I've been dropping hints about a KC gathering for a while now. But there aren't that many H&R people in the area.
Among many other refinements, Revival features an outdoor
heated smoking garden patio!
Isn't it hot enough in July?
Jeff and I will most likely be there. Unless my editor gives me a last-minute early-morning Sunday assignment.
You would think Libertarians would not want to meet in one of the country's most regulated cities.
Of course, Dan T. Why would they want to meet where a bunch of them already are?
Chances are they use solar energy to heat their patio, as I do with my house this time of year.
Dan T.
"Those who are healthy have no need of a physician, but those who
are sick do." -- Luke 5:31
You would think Libertarians would not want to meet in one
of the country's most regulated cities.
Regulated how? That's the question. What other place can you buy
beer at 5am? In the south, you get a ticket for jay walking. I'll
take a little business regulation over the freedom to live how I
want to live every time.
Aw, man! I'm going to be upstate camping with my kids this weekend. Next time let's have the NYC get-together on a weeknight or after Labor Day. In the summer, no one is in the city on weekends but tourists.
Aw, man! I'm going to be upstate camping with my kids this weekend. Next time let's have the NYC get-together on a weeknight or after Labor Day. In the summer, no one is in the city on weekends but tourists.
Lamar,
Let's see: smoking bans, dancing bans, byzantine parking
enforcement... better enjoy that jaywalking while it lasts.
Sounds like a good time.
Dan T. is just jealous.
(As well he should be.)
Looking forward to pics and stories.
Also, I've been thinking about another Denver gathering. (Not to
steal Smacky's thunder.)
You're probably right. I'm just too selfish. Dancing is stupid, don't have a car, hanker for a beer at 4am more than smoking on the dance floor, and I actually enjoy smoking out with the rebels outside. Still, show me a city with no parking restrictions, and I'll say that's not a city, that's a BS little pipsqueak town.
Also, I've been thinking about another Denver
gathering.
Just let us know when, mediageek.
I wonder if I could get around the dancing ban by claiming I'm an epileptic?
No, Smacky, but if a bar is going to allow people to dance (customers, I mean, not entertainers) they need a special "cabaret" license that's a pain in the butt to get.
I thought the dancing thing was repealed a few years ago.
smacky, they're referring to the cabaret law of 1926, which
required an establishment to obtain a license from the city in
order to have more than 3 people dancing on the premises. It was a
not-so-veiled way to chase black clubs out of areas where they
weren't wanted. The Giuliani admin used the same laws a few years
back to close down clubs where they thought drug dealing was going
on.
The Giuliani admin used the same laws a few years back to
close down clubs where they thought drug dealing was going
on.
Or maybe the Giuliani admin tried to justify using the carbaret
laws to close down clubs by claiming they thought drug dealing was
going on in them.
I wonder if I could get around the dancing ban by claiming
I'm an epileptic?
Geez, Jennifer, I'm hoping that they have of couple of conveniently
placed poles of the right diameter there. I'd like to see that
Mussolini thing you do.
Not that I'll be there, but I'd definitely buy a set of
those pictures.
I'd love to be there, but I have to see if I'll have a date that night or not. I'm generally a lurker, but I'd love to meet some other Big Apple Libertarians.
As of this writing the weather looks good for Saturday. Party sunny and low 80s.
Geez, Jennifer, I'm hoping that they have of couple of
conveniently placed poles of the right diameter there. I'd like to
see that Mussolini thing you do.
It wouldn't work anyway, since I'll be wearing jeans. You don't get
the right friction with too many clothes on.
A quick google investigation seems to indicate that the cabaret license law was still in effect as of early 2005...strangely there's no article on wikipedia about the controversy.
in there like swimwear,
or,
planning to rock out with my [synonym for rooster] out...
re: Dancing Ban
Yes, it's still in effect, although people stopped complaining
because some new scenes opened up to respond to the demand...(i.e.
people come to brooklyn where no one gives a shit)....but I do miss
the smaller east village bars that would have DJ's and ~10-20
people could boogie all night in very cozy setting.
The main driver of the ban in its recent (Giuliani) incarnation was
to reduce noise in residential communities. Like the aforementioned
east village.
re: 'CONTROVERSY' - It was a lot like the smoking ban, where people
complained for the first 6 months, then shrugged and moved on. I
think it prompted the emergence of a bunch of new, medium sized
clubs to be honest. But I still think it's gay you can't even
shimmy in smaller bars. Or do the monkey. Or the bird. Or watoosie.
Or even the mashed potato. Really, none of the 1000 dances are
permitted.
I still dont think of NYC as 'the most regulated city'... unless
you consider the mafia regulators. Which in many ways they
are.
I would actually endorse a revival of the 'no spitting fine' of the
tuburcular era. @#*&$@ punk kids spit on everything.
JG
follow up thought on the 'dancing ban'...
To be fair, I think there are MORE places to go dancing now as a
consequence of the ban... just that your everyday Manhattan bar or
retaurant where people get wasted until 4AM can't have so much as
'agressive head nodding' without risk of losing their liquor
licence.
decent 2002 article (i think - just glanced over) on the subject in
the Voice
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0248,romano,40202,1.html
One place that are exempt from the ban are the ethnic 'social
clubs'? There was a place downtown (canal & b'way) that was a
ukranian social club that had the most slamming sat night dance
party. You paid a $5 'membership fee'. You got a card, which was
cool. Total madness, dancing to baltic techno, drinking those
oversized 8% beers.
JG
In the summer, no one is in the city on weekends but
tourists.
That old chestnut... it ain't true. At least not for plebes like
myself.
You would think Libertarians would not want to meet in one of
the country's most regulated cities.
You'd be surprised how many of them actually LIVE here, and in fact
choose to live here for reasons other than politics.
Foo -
http://www.gawker.com/news/ariel-kaminer/
so much for my bulgarian dance party bar.
ukranian, bulgarian, whateva
I retract my previous statement about 'more' dancing. Maybe just
'different'.
JG
Pardon my denseness, but could someone explain the Mussolini
reference in regard to pole dancing?
The only thing I can think of is that Jennifer is so good at pole
dancing she makes the trains come on time.
It's in this thread, NoStar:
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2006/07/youre_not_liber.shtml
Thanks Jennifer. I missed that thread. Wish I'd been around for
it. Still, my guess wasn't too bad. I bet you can make the trains
come on time.
Actually, I'm kind of proud of that pun.
Perhaps I can work on it. Something along the lines of the Orgy
Party planner known as Mussolini because she made the
trains....
Will you be there, Rhywun?
I don't think I can pass up smoking and drinking AT THE SAME TIME,
in a place that isn't my apartment. Oh yeah, and talking to people
and stuff.
I bet you can make the trains come on time. Actually, I'm
kind of proud of that pun.
Perhaps I can work on it. Something along the lines of the Orgy
Party planner known as Mussolini because she made the
trains....
I dunno, NoStar--I've got to be honest and tell you I am
not loving this metaphor. The thought of me taking on a
train . . . kind of negates the prime physical advantage of sex
with a woman who's never had a baby, y'know?
You'd be surprised how many of them actually LIVE here, and
in fact choose to live here for reasons other than politics. -
Rhywun
Hey, if it was good enough for Ayn and Frank....
Kevin
I should make a clarification on the directions to Revival,
since it's difficult to see directions on the bar website.
The address is 129 E. 15th Street, between Irving and Third
Ave.
NY, NY 10003
The phone number to the bar is: (212) 253-8061
There also appears to be Metro directions on the bar website. You
just have to look really carefully because I think either their
website wasn't properly put together or else the "directions" link
doesn't show up well in some browsers. Here is the link
again:
http://www.revivalbar-nyc.com/directions.html
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