Brian Doherty | July 11, 2006
Seven timed blasts hit railway carriages and platforms within 20 minutes during Mumbai's evening rush hour, crippling the city's transport system. The biggest blast took place in Bandra, a suburb with a big Muslim community.
Pakistani officials, including President Pervez Musharraf, have condemned the attack. At least 170 dead, many hundreds more injured; the attacks today
came within hours of a wave of explosions in Srinigar, the capital of Indian-controlled Kashmir, where a series of grenade attacks killed eight people and wounded more than two dozen. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the bombings....
The Financial Times story, quoted above.
Reason's June account of the culture those monsters were attacking today: Shikha Dalmia's reporting on what Detroit could profitably learn from Bangalore.
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It's been a rough couple of days for South/Central Asia... the plane crashes in Irkutsk and Kashmir, and now this stuff.
Kashmir should be an independent nation. Anyone who denies this
should have something hot shoved up their ass.
Sadly, I am not denying this.
Ah, but the inverse of a proposition does not necessarily have
the same truth value as the original proposition. Thus, the
proposition
if someone denies that Kashmir should be independent, then they
should have something hot shoved up their ass
does not necessarily imply that
if someone does not deny that Kashmir should
be independent, then they should not have
something hot shoved up their ass.
So by all means, commence with the sticking.
I was actually thinking that perhaps this was another
fundamentalist attack designed to undermine global trade...given
India's role as a supplier of human capital for the western
economic system...
I guess when the usual Kashmiri bomber suspects take credit we'll
know for sure.
You can't stop the bodies that do this. You can only influence the minds to stop the bodies that do this.
In another transit related tragedy, a woman was killed by
falling concrete from Boston's craptacular Big Dig (the $14.6
billion gift that keeps on giving).
Coupled with the recent subway accident in Spain and today's fire
in the Chicago metro, I'd advise staying at home for the next few
days.
Oh, and I should add that my cousin, a former Boston resident, was nearly hit herself by several falling chunks of ice from one of the Dig's new bridges. Who did they hire to build that monstrosity? The firm that built new Orleans' levees or just mob affiliated front companies?
Our masters in Boston are demanding to take over control of the
Turnpike Authority because they are unhappy with their safety
record.
Of course, given the sorry state of the streets I biked on this
morning, it is possible that what the officials mean is that there
aren't enough potholes and cracked concrete in the tunnels rather
than there are too many.
If there is a way to make it worse, I'm sure they will be able to
find it.
I'm not tracking. Could someone explain how the attacks in India
are the fault of the US?
You can't stop the bodies that do this. You can only influence
the minds to stop the bodies that do this.
But until their minds are influenced (if ever; try talking sense to
a fanatic) you have to stop their bodies.
"I sure do love religion."
That's right, if everyone were atheists like me we wouldn't have
any of this kind of violence.
Pol,
Some forms of atheism do constitute religion. There is a difference
between categorically saying there is no God and saying I do't know
if there are gods or not.
Although, I think that religion is not the problem. Rather it is
the desire to impose a set of beliefs on others without their
consent which is the problem.
For example, I have Christian Fundamentalist friend who has some
very strange laws he lives under. Since he does not force me to
live under those laws, we get along just fine. If I tried to make
him work on his sabbath at gunpoint, or he to make me rest on that
day, we'd have a problem.
After all it was clearly my lack of belief in supernatural entities that informed the Cambodian genocide....
Pol, have you suffered anmesia in the afterlife? Don't you recall that you were a former Buddhist monk? And, from what I understand and have seen, Southeast Asian Buddhism is not Zen. It also tends to incorporate animism. You were saying?
Terran,
If people don't believe in God, they will beleive in anything. For
whatever reason, human beings are not cut out to live happy
peaceful meaningless nihlistic lives. If they don't beleive in God,
they still look for meaning elswhere. Sometimes it is through
peaceful pursuits but other times and indeed many times it is
through the embrace of utopianism. Whether it be worshiping the
state through communism, the race through facsism, the earth
through environmentalism, or themselves through hedonism, somehow
they always end up worshiping something and some of them end up
being violent over it. Eliminating religion won't make the world
anymore peaceful.
Bombadil, I have a question for you about religion:
Are you one of the Valar or Maiar? Or are you a separate creation
of Iluvatar?
Or maybe you're Iluvatar Himself?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I know it's nitpicky to argue with quoted text, but I wouldn't
characterize Bandra as a Muslim suburb. Of course there are Muslims
there, but I wouldn't read it as either an assault on Muslims OR
evidence that Islamic militants are behind the attacks. Bandra is
an upscale suburb popular with expatriates (it's especially popular
with finance workers) and the odd Bollywood star. If anything, it's
a big ol' f you to them, though there's no chance in hell that
they'd ever be caught dead on the train.
No pun intended.
Between the war and the depressingly regular bombings in the
middle east, Britain, Indonesia and just about everywhere else, I'm
really starting to become desensitized to this kind of thing. It
was a despicable, grotesque act and the people who perpetrated it
should be hung up by their genitalia. But it seems to me that there
was a definite lack of rage/empathy surrounding this.
Note to terrorists - You've already flooded the market with your
cowardly attacks. You have been relegated to the bargain bin.
MK,
Good point. I suspect that at some point terrorism, at least on
this scale, will run its course because people will just get used
to it and stop paying attention and it will thus cease to terrorize
or accomplish any political goal. In the 1980s terrorists used to
take hostages and highjack planes until it had happened enough that
people just stopped paying attention.
Thoreau,
I'm one of the heretofore unknown, dyslexic, irony-challenged heads
of Aslan (before the resurrection and the merging of Middle Earth
to Narnia).
uh, I meant 'after' (eyes shifting side to side) 'after' the resurrection...it's tough being an aspect sometimes.
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