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Cathy Young trudges through the work of Ann Coulter and asks: Why does anyone read this garbage?

Kara|6.20.06 @ 8:57AM|

The woman is shrill.

|6.20.06 @ 9:02AM|

[shrug] So she's the Andrew Dice Clay of right-wing pundits. And, of course, even Young's piece, spilling yet more ink hand-wringing over such 'horrors' as the fact that O'Reilly has guests who defend her, just further feeds Coulter's PR machine.

|6.20.06 @ 9:21AM|

"Republicans have used war veterans, mothers of slain soldiers, and Sept. 11 widows to bolster their moral authority as well."

This is a classic example of Youngesque understatement or a bogus equivalency.

The central Republican schtick since 911 has been to bolster their moral authority with anyone who has been victimized by the attacks of 9/11 and the war of choice that followed it in Iraq. To mention this with an "as well" qualifier as if it were an afterthought indicates that Young is either entirely clueless about how deep this trend runs among her right-of-center friends, or that she is knowingly creating a false equivalency.

Sheehan is a late entrant into this game. I'm only surprised it took her and her sympathizers so long to figure out the rules.

|6.20.06 @ 9:26AM|

"Cathy Young trudges through the work of Ann Coulter and asks: Why does anyone read this garbage?"

One might ask the same after trudging through the work of Cathy Young.

Whatever. Coulter sucks. I think we can all agree on that. Was there any real need for this article?

|6.20.06 @ 9:38AM|

Okay.. that skeletor ad picture is really starting to get to me. It's worse than those idiotic flashing ads that make reading the page very difficult.

Judging by the pic, Coultier has the Ring of Power, and it's sucking the life out of her. Pretty sure she'll start slurping, hissing, and refer to herself in the plural.

And a tip to dudes: if you're dating a broad, and her eyelids barely touch her irises.. be afraid. Be very afraid.

|6.20.06 @ 9:40AM|

Coulter gets away with it because she's quite funny. She can deliver a good line and she's almost able to laugh at herself - therefore she can spew out crap until the cows come home.

|6.20.06 @ 9:51AM|

I do not really see a story here. There are people on the right who have condemned Coulter's boorish behavior, and people who support it. That is called partisanship. I would be much more convinced there was a double standard if there were a litany of quotes demonstrating that "conservatives called it a victory for decency" when Ted Rall's column got pulled. It is one thing to grieve in private. It is quite another to project your grief onto others.

Whatever the right did in the way of pillorying Bill Clinton he wholeheartedly brought upon himself. Much in the same way that two total miscreants like James Carville and Mary Matalin can share the same bed, Coulter's behavior is so transparent. She is in it for the money.

|6.20.06 @ 9:51AM|

Yah.. I personally think Coultier is smart enough to not actually believe in half the crap she tosses out. She's only making a buck. Period.

Once the well runs dry, I predict Coultier will pull a David Brock, and do the circuit for the idiots on the other side. Then she'll retire.

|6.20.06 @ 9:54AM|

Yah.. I personally think Coultier is smart enough to not actually believe in half the crap she tosses out. She's only making a buck. Period.


Hit the nail on the head.

|6.20.06 @ 9:54AM|

Ann Coulter says what many on the right really think. It's her stock in trade.

But the fact that a large group of people actually - to the letter - agree with her is the most unsettling part of her schtick.

Anyway, a book attacking the "Godlessness" of people written by a person with no discernable attachment to (or faith in) God rings pretty hollow. Sad that her legion of fans is so easily manipulated.

|6.20.06 @ 10:02AM|

Ann Coulter says what many on the right really think. It's her stock in trade.

I think she would argue that she says what a lot of people on the left really think too.

She's like George Galloway in the UK. She talks shit, but she does it with aplomb.

Jennifer|6.20.06 @ 10:05AM|

One would think that her vile remarks about the Sept. 11 widows would have given conservatives a perfect opportunity to distance themselves from her venom. Apparently, they have no desire to do so.

What? The side that's fond of using calm, moderate arguments like "if you care about civil rights you're a terrorist" or "you obviously hate America" or "gay people want to destroy the country" has shown itself unwilling to distance itself from the pus this human zit is squeezing over the face of this country? Wow. Jesus. Who the fuck saw that coming?

|6.20.06 @ 10:07AM|

Jennifer,

If I weren't already married...

Always good to read your posts.

Jennifer|6.20.06 @ 10:10AM|

I mean, after legions upon legions of Limbaugh fans said to him "Hey, dude, insult Bill Clinton all you want but holding up a picture of his 13-year-old daughter and calling her 'the White House dog' is beyond the pale," I thought the conservative mainstream commitment to intelligent dialogue and strictly above-the-belt fighting was well-known.

Maybe they're planning to criticize Coulter later, only right now they're too busy adding quotation marks to articles about those evil people who support gay "marriage."

|6.20.06 @ 10:12AM|

Ann Coulter is fine. jeesh. She is pretty smart, and actually pretty.


But that close up picture on the left.........for the love of Mary Mother of Christ and all that is holy in the world......please take it down, I beg of you.

|6.20.06 @ 10:15AM|

Mark...interesting notion to ponder.

I've never thought of AC as "confident" though her style is. I see her more as a desperate hack who's hit the right oil well and is working it as long as she can. Without the validation (and the book sales) she's just another worthless, loudmouth attorney.

|6.20.06 @ 10:18AM|

She is pretty smart, and actually pretty.

Marginal on the first count.
Plain wrong on the second.

Guess I like a little meat with my string beans.

|6.20.06 @ 10:23AM|

Once the well runs dry, I predict Coultier will pull a David Brock, and do the circuit for the idiots on the other side. Then she'll retire.

I agree that she's too smart to believe her crap, but I don't think she'll change sides. First, she may not believe the specific arguments that she makes but I think some of the venom is real.

Second, I don't think the left would welcome her. I think they'd tell her to shut up and crawl away.

Third, David Brock got to claim that he was young and naive and seduced by a cause. Coulter is a bit older than Brock and has presumably raked in more cash than he did, which means one of those "poor me" schticks won't work as well for her.

Fourth, Brock's work was designed to deceive, so when he renounced his former work he could at least claim to have a revelation there. Coulter's work is a transparent act designed to rally those who already believe and entertain many more. If she renounces it or tries to pull back the curtain and reveal the game that she was playing, the response will be a big "DUH!!!" from everybody.

|6.20.06 @ 10:24AM|

Christ, how many people still use anything other than Firefox w/ AdBlock? It's not that hard, folks---quit complaining about ads or pics you hate. I haven't seen any ads on H&R in months.

TF, Coulter is a sickening waif. Blond+thin≠pretty. Plus, the forked tongue might be a little weird during fellatio.

Having said that much, I'm with Jennifer. Cathy revives one of her favorite past-times here: taking a rather obvious point that could be achieved with a paragraph, and which most people can (and have) figure out for themselves, and turning it into some big-assed EXTRA, EXTRA expos�. News-Flash: Ann Coulter is a jackass, and her defenders/fans are equally so. Move on.

[note to the editor: just because Cathy Young assembles words into a coherent article doesn't necessarily mean that it's worth publishing.]

|6.20.06 @ 10:24AM|

"Guess I like a little meat with my string beans."

I guess I just like food.

|6.20.06 @ 10:28AM|

I guess I just like food.

Ah...person with standards.

|6.20.06 @ 10:34AM|

"Ah...person with standards."

Nah, standards are for the pretentious. Those people are smarter than me, better looking than me, have a biger penis than me, and, oh, they use AdBlock.

|6.20.06 @ 10:42AM|

Coulter is the neo-con's id, a sort of George Castanza of the Right. I can't wait until she tries George's strategy of doing just the opposite of what she would normally do.

|6.20.06 @ 10:47AM|

oh, they use AdBlock.

Got the word from zero just yesterday. Thanks for spreading the gospel.

|6.20.06 @ 10:47AM|

Ok - I have a doopid question but, as a non-American, justifiable.

I am aware that Oprah is a big deal - does she ever fly a political flag on daytime TV? WOuld she ever have Ann Coulter on her show?

Jennifer|6.20.06 @ 10:51AM|

Seriously, what was Cathy Young expecting from these people here?

"The Army should be allowed to torture prisoners. And checks and balances is stupid; the President is the law. The president has the authority to lock people up forever with no evidence or trial, just his say-so. Support the troops, but don't complain about them going overseas without sufficient armor or anything, because such criticism is un-American. All liberals are filthy evil scumbag hippies. Wait a minute--did Ann Coulter just insult some widows who criticized the President? All right, dammit, THAT is going too far."

Next big surprise: the Taliban has been buring girls' schools in Afghanistan. The Taliban? Showing a lack of respect for the rights of females? Gasp, I tell you. Gasp.

|6.20.06 @ 10:54AM|

*yawn* Did anyone watch the debate on the war in the house the other day? There was a lot worse stuff said, and I'm sure Ms. Young will get around to it in a couple news cycles after it matters -- but we have Congresscritters saying if Murtha was in the House in WWII we'd all be speaking some multi-culti version of Japanese and German. Thats bad. Coulter will be working the casino circuit soon, opening up for Brooks and Dunn, she's getting so tiresome Young, C is writing about her.

/me checks into AdBlock

|6.20.06 @ 10:55AM|

I am aware that Oprah is a big deal...Would she ever have Ann Coulter on her show?

Heck, would AC ever want to be on Oprah? Appearance wise, the C-word's a lightweight who sticks (mostly) to friendly venues (except for the occassional Commencement gaffe).

I think she'd be scared shitless to be on Oprah. But what a Celebrity Death Match!

|6.20.06 @ 10:59AM|

"Thanks for spreading the gospel."

I can�t even figure out how people are italicizing, you think I know anything about �AdBlock� ? (although some enlightened few have been using it for �months�)

Also, I just ordered a subscription to Reason for my dad yesterday, on a whim, because of that Father�s Day ad on the right. If I were smart enough to use AdBlock, maybe I wouldn�t be down another 20 bucks. Where can I find this �AdBlock�?

|6.20.06 @ 11:02AM|

Have Coulter and Franken been on together? Or Coutler and Stewart? I think those would be some interesting smack downs. Coulter vs. Predator, anyone?

|6.20.06 @ 11:05AM|

Or Coutler and Stewart?

Stewart would wipe the floor with her. I know some people here don't like what he says, but there's no denying that he is very adept at the smackdown, whereas Coulter prefers preaching to the choir.

Coulter vs. Predator, anyone?

Whoever wins, we lose.

|6.20.06 @ 11:10AM|

Adblock at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/10/.

Italics are easy.

Start your line with <i> and
End it with </i>

|6.20.06 @ 11:13AM|

I FOUND IT! ADBLOCK!!

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/10/

but, I can't install it. you see, over the last few days of gazing into Ann Coulter's eyes, I have.....well....I have....I'll just say it......I've fallen in love with her.

|6.20.06 @ 11:16AM|

madpad - thanks for the tips. we must have been posting at the same time.

|6.20.06 @ 11:30AM|

TF, no prob...italisize away!

|6.20.06 @ 11:38AM|

Stewart would wipe the floor with her. I know some people here don't like what he says, but there's no denying that he is very adept at the smackdown, whereas Coulter prefers preaching to the choir.

Steward has good writers. (So, for all I know, does Coulter.) But there is no reason in particular to assume he would be all that good left to his own devices.

|6.20.06 @ 11:39AM|

"Coulter gets away with it because she's quite funny. She can deliver a good line and she's almost able to laugh at herself..."

Point of order:
H.L. Mencken is funny.
Ambrose Bierce is funny.
Mark Twain is funny.
PJ O'Rourke is a goddamned laugh riot.

Any of the above four, three of which have been dead for nearly a century, still have more talent in their pinky toes than Coulter does in her entire protein-starved body.

Also, Coulter doesn't laugh at herself. She laughs *at* her own jokes. There's a difference. One can be amusing, the other is just tacky and the sign of a poor comic.

|6.20.06 @ 11:41AM|

Sorry, that's Stewart.

|6.20.06 @ 11:49AM|

I actually prefer not to use things like AdBlock... for one thing, I figure that when I visit a site, using their facilities, the least I can do is give their advertisers a chance to get my attention.

Too, with AdBlock, you would miss the long-awaited return of the RPG...

|6.20.06 @ 11:54AM|

Another nice thing about FireFox: Eric the 0.5b has written a most amazing script that you can use to block out comments that you don't want to bother reading.

I'm just saying.

Why is nobody responding to this post? What, you can't see my comment? What do you mean?

|6.20.06 @ 11:58AM|

"I actually prefer not to use things like AdBlock... for one thing, I figure that when I visit a site, using their facilities, the least I can do is give their advertisers a chance to get my attention."

People who condescend to me with shitty design deserve to get blocked.

A pox on those motherfuckers.

|6.20.06 @ 12:09PM|

Mediageek,

You are entirely right. With, however, one exception:

Mark Twain is funny

No. He. Is. Not.

If anyone else gives me a Twain book and says 'seriously, this one is CRACKING' I'm going to swallow a watermelon. He's the literary equivalent of sodium pentothal - he might speak the truth but he makes you dribble.

|6.20.06 @ 12:16PM|

mediageek - PJ's a funny, funny man, although - like The Simpsons - he is the not now that strength which in the old days moved rib-cracking hilarity...
Which reminds me of a wonderful incident I witnessed on British TV many years ago - PJ was being interviewed by some nice British lady (who was totally out of her depth with him, puir lass), and some kind of Reagan/Clinton comparison came up, and PJ remarked 'it just proves that a conservative with half a brain is still better than a liberal with two.'

(Don't worry, Clean Hands, if the RPG comes back the Adblockers will know of it within the first five comments of the first thread we read...)

|6.20.06 @ 12:22PM|

Stewart would wipe the floor with her. I know some people here don't like what he says, but there's no denying that he is very adept at the smackdown, whereas Coulter prefers preaching to the choir.

Stewart is an excellent comedian, but him versus her in an off-the-cuff argument would be two shrill, partisan goons duking it out.

I'd pass.

|6.20.06 @ 12:24PM|

I don;t particularly care for coulter...but much of this debate seems to be about 'how' she says things...not what she says.

Are we all so easily offended or do we just see in "them" (people like Coulter on both sides) an evil and inhumanity that isa really about allowing us to feel superior and righteous?

|6.20.06 @ 12:24PM|

I actually prefer not to use things like AdBlock... for one thing, I figure that when I visit a site, using their facilities, the least I can do is give their advertisers a chance to get my attention.

I do, to. I rarely use it, myself. But it's excellent for borderline-NSFW ads and horrifying images like the Coulter pic. And by default, you block specific images so that you see any new ones that show up.

Jennifer|6.20.06 @ 12:30PM|

I don;t particularly care for coulter...but much of this debate seems to be about 'how' she says things...not what she says.

Agreed. Nobody is taking offense at her statements that the 9-11 widows enjoyed watching their husbands die and were probably on the verge of getting a divorce anyway; the problem is that she said these things in a rude manner.

|6.20.06 @ 12:40PM|

No. He. Is. Not.

Twain's "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" is easily the funniest and one of the best pieces of literary criticism I have ever read.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/HNS/Indians/offense.html

|6.20.06 @ 12:41PM|

I read the first chapter of Godless (it was at townhall.com or jwr.com.) It appears Coulter is now defending Creationism. That, to me, proves she doesn't believe everything she writes. She's smart, but I won't buy any of her books.

PJ was hilarious in his time. As for Twain, if you want shrill and offensive, read his account of the Portuguese in The Innocents Abroad.

|6.20.06 @ 12:48PM|

Coulter in the picture looks like the woman who says "I just love little babies" and lures them to her gingerbread house.

|6.20.06 @ 12:49PM|

Thank you Ridgely, I was about to say the same thing about Twain's criticism of Cooper. Also great is Life on the Mississippi.

|6.20.06 @ 12:50PM|

Eric,
Ahh, se when I got AdBlock, I also got an automatic updater of ad libraries, so not only do ads get blocked, they never show up in the first place.

As to feeling guilty about not seeing ads. I don't click them in the first place and it's the same thing as using a Tivo to skip through commercials.

Besides, I see all the ads at work since they only have IE.

Warren|6.20.06 @ 12:51PM|

AC is like the Flat Earth Society. You start with a completely outrageous premise flagrantly false on the face of it, and then make your opponent prove you wrong. If you are well prepared and willing to use any argument to support your position (rigorous when possible, fallacious when necessary), the task is extremely difficult. It is a good exercise in demonstrating the Herculean effort that's required to logically assess even the most simple hypothesis.

The problem with AC isn't the woman herself. It's the legions of people who take her at face value. It would be a mistake to assume that she is sincere in her vitriol, as it would be to assume the same of all her advocates. Like the Flat Earthers, it's hard to tell them apart.

|6.20.06 @ 12:52PM|

Twain's "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses" is easily the funniest and one of the best pieces of literary criticism I have ever read.

Aren't we talking more wit here? I dunno.

Anyway, whatever, I like farting in the bath.

|6.20.06 @ 12:54PM|

"No. He. Is. Not."

TwainQuotes.com

You're kidding me, right? Pithy witticisms delivered with a florid slice of turn-of-the-last-century charm.

|6.20.06 @ 12:58PM|

Jennifer did she actually say what you typed?

Agreed. Nobody is taking offense at her statements that the 9-11 widows enjoyed watching their husbands die and were probably on the verge of getting a divorce anyway; the problem is that she said these things in a rude manner

|6.20.06 @ 1:14PM|

If anyone else gives me a Twain book and says 'seriously, this one is CRACKING' I'm going to swallow a watermelon.

Well, I won't give you a book, but I am reading "Tom Sawyer" to my son and I've had to stop on several occasions because either I'm laughing or he is. It's not the "witty sayings" he's famous for that are making us break up, but rather his superb characterizations.

|6.20.06 @ 1:28PM|

Aren't we talking more wit here? I dunno.
Anyway, whatever, I like farting in the bath.


Humor (or, if you will, humour) often doesn't travel well. For that matter, what one person finds funny another won't, and blah, blah, blah. I, for example, simply don't find Jon Stewart very funny (though he did deliver a funny commencement address at my alma mater several years ago) but do find Lewis Black very funny. [SHRUG] To each, and more blah, blah, blah.

|6.20.06 @ 1:30PM|

Stewart's humor is so-so. His correspondents are actually funnier much of the time.

His interviews can be deadly when he wants to really go after somebody.

Colbert is my favorite of all of them. He speaks truthiness to power.

Jennifer|6.20.06 @ 1:33PM|

Jennifer did she actually say what you typed?

Yes, Gaijin, she did. That's what the latest brouhaha is about: Coulter's claim that 9-11 widows really got off on watching their husbands die, and furthermore those "harpies" were all on the verge of getting a divorce anyway.

What did you think we were talking about?

|6.20.06 @ 1:45PM|

"Well, I won't give you a book, but I am reading "Tom Sawyer" to my son"

"Tom Sawyer" is easily one of my all-time favorite books. Most people think of it as a children's story, but try reading it as satire some time. It's risky to try to guess the intent of something written more than a hundred years ago, but I think Twain, on one level anyway, was making fun of the small town life that he grew up in when he wrote that book.

|6.20.06 @ 1:50PM|

Well, Jennifer, I watched a few of the interviews and thought that the way you typed what she said didn't sound like the words I heard her speak. I thought maybe you had actually read her book or something and that your typing wasn;t just your interpretation of her words...but I guess it was and you're just proving my point from the first post...I'll yield to your superiority (complex).

|6.20.06 @ 1:53PM|

I'll yield to your superiority (complex).

said with a smile of course ;-)

|6.20.06 @ 2:08PM|

Mark, insulting Twain before an American audience is a bad idea. We may have to invade the UK now in retribution. And yes, I support the invasion--the man was a genius.

In other news: USA over Ghana! Italy loses to the Czech Republic! It will happen. Yes, it will.

Warren|6.20.06 @ 2:22PM|

What will happen?

|6.20.06 @ 2:32PM|

Well, we can't really hold a candle to the Brits when it comes to things like football or wit. What was it Oscar Wilde said? Something like, "The last refuge of tyrants is in the arms of a young boy." I think that's how it went.

|6.20.06 @ 2:50PM|

Warren, I'm suggesting that the U.S. will advance in the World Cup. Something I was rather dubious about after our first game. We played very well against Italy, despite Bizarro-World referee's idea of a good soccer game--10 on 9 (the "9" being the United States). We played so well that I think we would have won a traditional 11-on-11 match up. Not to say that Italy wasn't robbed in the game, too--they were.

|6.20.06 @ 3:01PM|

Dude,
those Mark Twain quotes are pretty cool.

|6.20.06 @ 3:04PM|

the Brits don't even play football, they play soccer. What are y'all talking about?

|6.20.06 @ 3:12PM|

The yanks play a game where they touch the ball with the foot about 1 percent of the time. They call it football and insist that what we play, where all we use is our foot, is not football. And you wonder how your politicians can say the war in Iraq is going so well.

|6.20.06 @ 3:14PM|

Speaking of Mr Clemens; see if you can find a copy of "The War Prayer." Not funny in the least, but well worth reading.

|6.20.06 @ 3:27PM|

We didn't invent the term "soccer", you know. If we choose to call American football, "football", well, we're the greatest economic and military power in history, and we can call it whatever the heck we want. From now on, soccer will be called, "Frankenball". See?

Sorry, lost control there for a moment. I'm okay. Really. Though I do think that the U.S. should conquer the Mediterranean basin. For kicks.

No, no, I'm really okay now. Sorry. World peace, libertarian freedom, yada, yada, yada.

|6.20.06 @ 3:33PM|

but do find Lewis Black very funny.
Amen to that!! Like George Carlin before he started ranting for 3 hours straight.

|6.20.06 @ 3:39PM|

The yanks play a game where they touch the ball with the foot about 1 percent of the time. They call it football and insist that what we play, where all we use is our foot, is not football. And you wonder how your politicians can say the war in Iraq is going so well.

Don't be a prat. There are multiple forms of "football", including association football (which Brits and later Americans abbreviated to "soccer"), rugby football (often called just "rugby"), American-rules football, and Australian-rules football.

We'll call our game simply "football" and your game "soccer", and in return, we'll let you call that unrefrigerated stuff simply "beer", without tacking "American" and "English" everywhere.

Ann Coulter|6.20.06 @ 3:45PM|

We need to invade England, kill their athletic leaders, and force them to convert to proper American football.

|6.20.06 @ 4:06PM|

Ann, you really need to eat more.

As for invading England, I believe we did that when the Glazers bought Manchester United. I'd sympathize, but I can't criticize the Glazers since they helped my Buccaneers win the Super Bowl. In that, um, other football sport thingee.

|6.20.06 @ 4:47PM|

Stewart would wipe the floor with her.

wtf?!?! Tucker carlson kicked stewarts butt and all he did was let John talk.

Stewart is very funny but don't let him out of that desk at comedy central...he couldn't debate his way out of wet paper bag.

Ron Hardin|6.20.06 @ 5:54PM|

Coulter has nice lines, is why.

She's the early R Emmett Tyrrell, or H.L.Mencken, in style.

Like most bolts from the blue, most of them are on target, which is why they work.

She does go on too long about a single bolt, however, executing what Thurber compares to a trombone solo on each.

A whole book is too much. Even a column is too much. But a little is worth reading each week.

|6.20.06 @ 8:45PM|

She's...H.L.Mencken, in style.

Mencken vs Coulter
in three rounds


Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals.
-Ann Coulter

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
-H.L. Mencken

My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.
-Ann Coulter

In the United States, doing good has come to be, like patriotism, a favorite device of persons with something to sell.
-H.L. Mencken

Taxes are like abortion, and not just because both are grotesque procedures supported by Democrats. You're for them or against them. Taxes go up or down; government raises taxes or lowers them. But Democrats will not let the words "abortion" or "tax hikes" pass their lips.
-Ann Coulter

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
-H.L. Mencken

And the winner is, by unanimous decision...
H.L. Mencken


(I googled "mencken quotes" and "coulter quotes" and selected quotes without reading them.)

|6.20.06 @ 9:42PM|

Mencken was a giant. Coulter isn't. I'm just guessing here, but no one is going to be quoting Coulter in ten years, let alone a hundred.

|6.20.06 @ 11:22PM|

Mate, I think someone needs a hug. Maybe we should call hugging 'football' too. And beer. Will that soothe your tensions?

To be fair, Blair's been Bush's booty call - and everyone here knows it.

|6.21.06 @ 2:38AM|

PL,
We need Italy to beat the Czechs and to win over Ghana to advance. CR has 3 points, Italy has 4, we have 1 and Ghana has 3. If it goes like I stated above, the final rankings will be Italy 7 pts, USA 4 points and the other two with 3 each.

|6.21.06 @ 4:02AM|

Perhaps during her first semester of law school Ms. Coulter incorrectly percieved that, when the legal advocacy instructor admonished students to "make your argument pithy", (s)he was thpeaking with a lithp.

|6.21.06 @ 9:55AM|

Mo,

Correct! Which is why I predicted that we'd beat Ghana and Italy would lose to the Czechs. Any other outcome would mean that we're screwed. Though I suppose a USA win and an Italy-C.R. tie could do it, assuming we score a bunch of goals and hold Ghana to nil. Not that I care--I just want to go get our ass kicked in the second round. Woo hoo!

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