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Michael Young considers high- and low-minded ideas for Iraq's future.

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|5.4.06 @ 8:50AM|

The first rule of Gulf2000 is you DO NOT talk about Gulf2000.

|5.4.06 @ 9:46AM|

"new ground where grand visions that allow Western countries to ameliorate the destiny of the region become palatable. "

I'll pass on that real estate.

The article's conclusion is also based on supersimplicity. Of course we have a role in Iraq's future, we sanctioned it, invaded it and occupied it. Whatever we do, including taking a nap, is going to decisively affect something. It doesn't make Bernard Lewis prescient or wise for him to argue or have argued thatwe have a role in fixing something, when his original acted-upon advice had been "break it and hold it".

|5.4.06 @ 10:24AM|

"The first rule of Gulf2000 is you DO NOT talk about Gulf2000."

I really, really hope that the sixth rule isn't "No shirt, no shoes". I don't want to see Cole and Hitchens stripped to the waist.

|5.4.06 @ 10:28AM|

Vice President Dick Cheney displayed unnatural humility in calling him the "very ideal of the wise man."

Is that what you call praising the ideal wisdom of one of your staunchest supporters? Humility?

the man's reputation has unfairly suffered from systematic attack

What is unfair about it? Systematic attack is what every "great thinker" invites and what he deserves.

"[A]ccepting partition as the solution to U.S. misfortunes in Iraq requires a leap of faith no less breathtaking than the original neo-con conviction that Iraq would be a cakewalk with adoring crowds to welcome us."

I don't disagree with this point, but what is Sirk's solution? What is your solution, Mr. Young? Is it similar to Lewis's ingenious "get tough, suppress the insurgency" proposal?

If everyone agrees on that point, then Lewis deserves an apology. He supported an invasion of Iraq and still does, even if he has criticized the Bush administration's tactics. However, he has not fallen to the level of the war's ideological foes who, while blaming American intentions in Iraq, now affirm that only the U.S. holds the key to averting the breakout of civil war there.

I am sorry Bernie. As a great statesman once said, you are the ideal of the wise man. Don't let those nasty followers of Said get you down . . . What a fucking joke.

Dave W.|5.4.06 @ 10:50AM|

What is your solution, Mr. Young? Is it similar to Lewis's ingenious "get tough, suppress the insurgency" proposal?

Based on yesterday's HnR post about Juan somebody-or-ther and today's article, it doesn't matter what happens in the bad world so long as the doves stop with the bad manners they are exhibiting toward the hawks. A fair point, of course. We wouldn't want anybody showing up on this thread with an icy bottle of STFU because that just isn't polite discourse.

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