Jesse Walker | March 28, 2006
"Could the Roman Catholic Church's sex abuse crisis be tied to embedded Satanic and occultic imagery in its artwork -- some of it hundreds of years old?" I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess the answer is "no," but the good folks at WorldNetDaily aren't as dubious. Promoting the new documentary Rape of the Soul -- "made not by anti-Catholic bigots, but by devout followers of the Church" -- WND writes:
Experts are featured in the film to offer detailed accounts of the subconscious programming effects of the sex and occult images on the human brain and how it promotes sex, Satanism and the occult. Religious education materials, songbooks, children's story books, devotionals and the Sunday Missals all have been found to contain embedded imagery....
"Artists from DaVinci to Botticelli have embedded subliminal images into their art for centuries," said [Michael] Calace. "In this case we found penises on crucifixes, anarchy symbols, swastikas, demonic faces and in modern works even the word 'sex' encrypted into the images. The works in question include modern artists' work currently on the covers of missalettes and hymnals that at this very moment sit in the pews of churches throughout the U.S. and on children's religious teaching aids."
The expert witnesses include Wilson Bryan Key, who "was a professor at the University of Western Ontario," and Judith Reisman, "a world-renowned author, who specializes in child psychology and the harmful effects of pornography."
See the trailer here.
Disney gets in on the fun here and here.
Oliver Stone joins in here.
Salvador Dali's "critical paranoia" here.
Ferdinand de Saussure goes mad here.
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Wasn't Wilson Bryan Key the guy who claimed that every Ritz cracker had six or twelve repetitions of the word "sex" on it?
I swear, when Reisman dies, her heirs are going to find stacks of kiddie porn, bestiality, and scat tapes in her house. She's so insane that it's got to be a cover.
I don't know about all that, but I still get a rise out of
seeing a shiny silver crucifix hanging between a nice round pair of
boobies. Make of that what you will.
Also, if you've ever been to a house where the parents have the
full-on mangled-and-bleeding Jesus-on-the-cross hanging above the
bed-board ... You do have to wonder what effect that had on Dad,
having that in his face while he drilled away on Ma all those
years.
Thanks, Jennifer -- yep, that's the guy. I just threw in another link.
"Artists from DaVinci to Botticelli have embedded subliminal
images into their art for centuries," said [Michael] Calace. "In
this case we found penises on crucifixes, anarchy symbols,
swastikas, demonic faces and in modern works even the word 'sex'
encrypted into the images.
Aint no such thing as "subliminal," so that should probably read
"we imagined" rather than "we found."
Swastika=naughty? It was a common symbol all over the world,
generally meaning "good luck," before it was co-opted by the
Nazis.
Dammit, I was hoping our Satanic sex codes would remain under
wraps until at least Easter. I had party plans ...
Actually, I haven't RTFAs but it's quite possible that naughty
images got into some artwork, not at the secret bidding of the
Church, but because the commissioned artist was disgruntled.
IIRC, Leonardo DaVinci had an acrimonious disagreement with the
Pope who commissioned him to paint the Sistine Chapel. As a result,
you can reputedly see the face of said Pope among those DaVinci
depicted as being judged and sent to Hell..
"made not by anti-Catholic bigots, but by devout followers
of the Church"
...and the men were lynched, not by racists, but for their own good
by compassionate white men in pointy hoods.
IIRC, that was Michelangelo.
And speaking of licentious church figures, that Pope is probably in
Hell anyhow, having done more than anyone else to provoke
Luther.
I've recently taken on a part-time job as an Opus Dei assassin. I train at nights at an underground gym beneath our local church -- you know, hit the weights a little, jump around while some dude throws knives at you, that kind of stuff. Anyway, it's all true. They got all kinds of crazy shit down there. They keep Jesus's only male descendant bound and gagged in a back room.
I was hoping our Satanic sex codes would remain under wraps
until at least Easter. I had party plans ...
Planning party snacks made with Ritz crackers, no doubt.
Pervert.
Stevo, except that it's Michaelangelo yo're thinking of, that is
generally correct.
Except I think I was some Cardinal or other that he was pissed off
at and painted a very unflattering minor picture of*, not the pope
himself, who as I understand it is the model for the God in the God
and Adam touching fingers scene.
*rotting in hell or something.
I believe that Isaac is correct--the mocked individual in The Last Judgment was a cardinal. Michelangelo probably liked living enough not to do something like that to a pope, anyway.
Hey hey hey, that's Doctor Judith Reisman. She worked hard for that communications Ph.D.; the least you can do is let her use it to vaguely imply she's qualified to opine on psychology.
Yeah, she didn't spend three years in Evil Communications School to be called "Ms".
anarchy symbols, swastikas
Since anarchists and nazis (as noted above) hadn't appropriated
these icons yet, how's it relevant to their argument?
Wouldn't it be great if the dirty pictures in the missalettes
caused the clergy sex abuse crisis?
It could be cured just by fixing that.
Devout Catholics, huh?
Worse than all that, the subliminal messages caused Dan Brown to
write Da Vinci Code.
Evil.
This reminds me of the Old Days (the 70's) back when we played
Stairway to Heaven backwards on our turntables to hear the
satanic messages embedded therein.
What a ripoff. As many times as I tried it, I never heard "sweet
Satan"; I always heard "Hey stupid, you're ruining your
needle".
Well the Bible indicates that Catholicism is a false religion. So it isn't too far of a streach to go the rest of the way like these folks have.
"you're obsessed with sex."
"*I'm* obsessed with sex?! You're the one drawing all the dirty
pictures!"
On the other hand, Holly, if you played "Another One Bites the Dust" backwards, it did sort of sound like they were saying "it's fun to smoke marijuana," but only if you'd already made that discovery first-hand.
I think it was Oreos that had the secret messages, not Ritz Crackers. Ritzs are just sort of lumpy and blobby; Oreos have lines and shapes. Amazing trivial connection: I am right now at this very moment sitting next to the great-niece of the founder of Opus Dei. She doesn't take after him much.
If they want to badly enough, people can always find "hidden" images and messages. It's one of those weird quirks that makes us see faces in things like power outlets, woodgrain, clouds, etc.
I heard if you say "Church Church Church" three times fast in a
chanting mode at the right pitch that you will become posessed by
Satan. I never had the nerve to try it though, anyone care to give
it a shot and let us know how it works out?
Ok, just kidding.
I tried it out, and it works, and I'm just trying to get you all to
lose your souls too.
In all truthfulness, I swear, I'm about as serious here as those
who think Chruch artwork is embedded with Satanic images.
Which is to say, it is all true. A ha ha ha ha.
:x
I think it was Oreos that had the secret messages, not Ritz
Crackers
I did a Google search--it was definitely Ritz crackers. I wonder
what Freudian conclusions Key would make of me: I don't care for
Ritz, but I like Club crackers. Fear of sex sublimated into an urge
for violence, perhaps? Or maybe just an elf fetish.
anarchy symbols, swastikas
Since anarchists and nazis (as noted above) hadn't appropriated
these icons yet, how's it relevant to their argument?
Yeah, right. And next you're going to tell me Moby Dick
isn't about a big wang.
Experts are featured in the film to offer detailed accounts
of the subconscious programming effects of the sex and occult
images on the human brain and how it promotes sex, Satanism and the
occult.
Hmm... when you equate sex with Satanism and the occult, that might
just be your problem right there.
All part of the human brain's amazing capacity for finding patterns, even where there aren't any.
Oops, I confused Michaelangelo with DaVinci and a cardinal with the pope. Thanks for the corrections, guys -- I was obviously speaking ex rectum.
It's all very simple:
1: Man is gay and grows up in very Catholic household.
2: Catholics have unrealistic morals regarding sexuality and gay
man must stifle his urges.
3: Gay man joins priesthood to escape himself.
4: Gay man is surrounded by young boys for years.
5: Gay man abuses some of the boys.
The evidence for this is clear. The ratio of gay to straight
pedophilia is roughly the same as the ratio of gays and straights
in the general population. But in the church, the ratio is bent
heavily to gay.
The RC Church created this mess. It's all on them.
JMJ
Stevo,
Or you were right. I've always thought da Vinci was really Francis
Bacon. Maybe Bacon was Michelangelo, too.
No dhex, were it not for stupid religious doctrine, these men
may well have lead normal gay lives - no molesting.
JMJ
If the French and the other allies hadn't defeated Germany in WWI, then Germany wouldn't have allowed Nazism to rise with all of its horrors. Therefore, the Holocaust, etc. are the fault of the Allies, and the Nazis were innocent victims.
No dhex, were it not for stupid religious doctrine, these
men may well have lead normal gay lives - no molesting.
Must... resist... feeding trolls... troll associating
homosexuality... with pedophilia... must not take bait...
argghh...
finding patterns, even where there aren't any.
"even where there aren't any." That's an anagram for "Rene never
ate the wary hen." Spooky.
I'll bite. JMJ: Being a member of the clergy and being gay == molester? That's an enormous leap over as empty a chasm as your head.
My favorite Reisman document
http://www.drjudithreisman.org/archives/pinkswa.doc
"THE PINK SWASTIKA AND HOLOCAUST REVISIONIST HISTORY"
Basically, the root cause of WWII was that the Nazis were all a
bunch of hardcore fags.
I cant believe these people can make careers out of this gook! I
have to learn how to be a Profitable Wingnut.
JG
That's an enormous leap over as empty a chasm as your
head.
Nope, not insulting.
the root cause of WWII was that the Nazis were all a bunch
of hardcore fags ... I have to learn how to be a Profitable
Wingnut.
Check out Gus van Sant's film Elephant. The gay Nazi motif
is used to explain Columbine. Apply theory as needed.
rafuzo: Being a member of the clergy and being gay ==
molester? That's an enormous leap...
I don't think it's that much of a leap, actually. While I
definitely think that pedophilic priests are ultimately the ones to
blame for their own actions, the repressive doctrines of the
Catholic Church has historically created an environment wherein
"normal" gay impulses were demonized (literally) and those who felt
them were made to feel evil. To someone religous enough to join the
priesthood this would provide a very powerful warpage factor.
Okay, either that or the Church just appeals to pedophiles because
it provides a bounty of sweet, succulent young altar boys to prey
on.
I cant believe these people can make careers out of this
gook! I have to learn how to be a Profitable Wingnut.
Best damn thing Gilmore has ever said. I'm with you on this one
man!
I read one of Wilson Bryan Key's books, and my favorite example sums it up: it was a Playboy centerfold from the '70s, a beautiful nude blonde reclining on some satin sheets. Key had "discovered" that if you held the centerfold up to the light so that the printing on the other side showed through, in the folds of the sheets in one corner of the picture you could kinda-sorta see the word "sex." That was the "subliminal seduction," don't you see. The beautiful blonde wouldn't be enough, so they had to slip that word in there so that Playboy's readers (or at least those who held their centerfolds up to the light) would get the right idea. Sheesh.
My grandmother always believed that nuns wore habits to hide
their priest-implanted pregnancies. But she was a near-illiterate
East Texas redneck born at the turn of the 20th century, so she had
a bit of an excuse. WTF is wrong with everyone else? "Embedded
imagery expertise"????
And "These images, unrecognized by the untrained eye, can be a
ticking time-bomb to an individual who is unaware of their
presence..?" You mean, like what happened to River?
I'm not going to compare anti-Catholic hysteria to the far more
dangerous blood libel and other anti-Jewish smears. But I've always
thought that if "the Jews" really did control US foreign policy,
the world financial system and most everything else on the planet,
they would be able to manufacture much better PR for themselves and
that whole Palestine situation would never have gotten this bad,
you know? And the M.E. would be a bit less excitable.
Likewise, if the Catholic church were really able to do all the
boogedy boodgedy stuff it's credited with, then maybe there
wouldn't be a severe shortage of priests, maybe the capital C
Church wouldn't be shuttering little c churches all throughout the
West from lack of congregants, maybe the pedophile priests wouldn't
get caught and dioceses wouldn't go broke paying settlements to
abuse victims, maybe pews would be packed for every Mass by
millions of those unwitting Cathbots of the untrained eyes.
If an organization is A) sneaky, powerful, and omnipresent, then it
shouldn't be B) frequently and visibly in deep crisis. You
think?
PapayaSF:
I'll bet Key had to wade through a lot of Playboy centerfolds to
find that one...
All in the name of resexrch, of course.
Okay, either that or the Church just appeals to pedophiles
because it provides a bounty of sweet, succulent young altar boys
to prey on.
Comment by: Godfrey at March 28, 2006 02:25 PM
That's your answer.
IMHO, these men ALREADY were child molestors and they thought that
their faith and the grace of Holy Orders would help take away their
problems.
Multiply this with the problem of a scandelous hierarchy who just
wanted to cover their asses as opposed to tackling the issue
head-on (with an all to sympathetic public towards the hierarchy),
and you get BAD NEWS.
Also, if there is a problem with celibacy=going crazy and molesting
kids (since that's what most people figure is the locus of the
RCC's problem with it's priests), then why don't we see teenage
boys going after 8 year olds?
Not to mention that priestly sex abuse is not limited to Catholic churches. I believe there are cases of abuse within the Mormon church and an ongoing case against some Hare Krishna temples.
Yeah, right. And next you're going to tell me Moby Dick
isn't about a big wang.
I dunno, I think it's hard to read the "Squeeze of the Hand"
chapter and not come to a conclusion that Moby-Dick may
just be about a giant wang.
I am not sure if I understood this correctly, but didn't he say he found the word "sex" is some of the imagery that was hundred of years old? If so, does that really make sense when these artists are ITALIAN? Correct me if I am wrong, but why would they use the English word "sex" in their imagery?
And yet, in a weird turn of events, the song "Sex" by Berlin does not contain the word "sex" in its lyrics.
1: Man is gay and grows up in very Catholic household. 2:
Catholics have unrealistic morals regarding sexuality and gay man
must stifle his urges. 3: Gay man joins priesthood to escape
himself. 4: Gay man is surrounded by young boys for years. 5: Gay
man abuses some of the boys.
Since most US dioceses have had "altar girls" for decades, the same
sequence should play out for heterosexual men (many of whose
desires are likewise not consistent with Catholic morality) who
enter the priesthood; yet as you admit most cases of priestly
molestation are homosexual in nature.
While your explanation may provide you with a convenient stick with
which to beat the Catholic Church and any other organization that
disagrees with you on this subject, it doesn't fit the facts. Then
again, that's never been a problem for you before, has it?
Stevo Darkly et al,
Michaelangelo was also massively pissed when his work on the
Sistine Chapel was altered to cover up male genitalia and other
undesirable depictions. IIRC, there was a snake wrapping itself
around the cardinal you mentioned and biting him in a very
sensitive region of his anatomy.
I can only imagine, when the Sistine paintings were restored in the
1980s, what went through the minds of the restorers as they
uncovered all these long-forgotten naughty bits. It was probably
like the first time you realized your parents had sex.
One of the definitions of a "pervert" is one who sees sexual meaning everywhere. The people behind the movie as well as much of the religious right and the Taliban, look at even the most innocent things as sexual. So, the puritans are just as horny as the hedonists. But, at least the hedonists are more honest about what they truly desire..
And yet, in a weird turn of events, the song "Sex" by Berlin
does not contain the word "sex" in its lyrics.
And, not so coincidentally, Berlin was the capital of Gay Old Nazi
Germany. Hmm, anyone check Berlin album covers for pink swastikas
lately?
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