Jacob Sullum | January 30, 2006
Last night's 60 Minutes segment about Florida pain patient cum "drug trafficker" Richard Paey was very sympathetic to him without being heavy-handed, mainly letting the facts (and a highly articulate Paey) speak for themselves. Morley Safer highlighted an important element of Paey's appeal: contradictions in statements by Paey's New Jersey doctor, who initially confirmed that he had authorized the narcotic prescriptions that were the basis for the criminal charges against Paey, then changed his story to help the prosecution, apparently to avoid being charged himself. In an interview with Safer, the state prosecutor who handled the case, Scott Adringa, acknowledged these inconsistencies but defended the decision to pursue charges against Paey that resulted in a 25-year mandatory minimum sentence.
Andringa also conceded the government had found no evidence that Paey sold any of the drugs on the black market but argued that Paey could not possibly have consumed all of them himself. Pain expert Russell Portenoy easily rebutted this claim, noting that patients who develop tolerance to opioids may end up taking doses that seem enormous to people unfamiliar with long-term pain treatment--doses that would kill someone unaccustomed to narcotics.
Although Adringa is still pushing this uninformed argument, it was not necessary to convict Paey or to earn him his draconian sentence. As Andringa explained to Safer, Florida's mandatory minimum sentence for drug trafficking applies to illegal possession of narcotics above an arbitrarily defined weight threshold--a threshold so low that one bottle of pills can send you to prison for 25 years.
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I STILL cannot understand why/how "drug" Limbaugh is still free
(well actually voluntarilly confined to his own private insane
asylum), is Florida really that corrupt?
"Drug" certainly must qualify for the mandatory minimum given the
over 300k in oxycontin (hillbilly heroin) that he purchased
illegally.
Can't this infamous drug trafficker be stopped?
Pain expert Russell Portenoy easily rebutted this claim,
noting that patients who develop tolerance to opioids may end up
taking doses that seem enormous to people unfamiliar with long-term
pain treatment--doses that would kill someone unaccustomed to
narcotics.
Russell Portenoy never directly stated that it was plausible that
Paey was able to consume all of the pills himself. Although his
statement implied that, Morley Safer should have pressed him to be
specific about Paey.
All in all though, I though the piece was excellent. Unfortunately,
it still didn't convince my wife that the prescription requirement
for certain drugs was far more costly than it was worth.
sigh...
The ironic thing is that the state is now providing Mr. Peay with a morphine pump to manage his pain--can't they tell how much morphine he needs to do that and extrapolate??? Or, better yet--why couldn't he get a morphine pump on the outside? It sounds like it works better than the pills anyway. Outrageous drug war story.
MP,Your statement about your wife is not clear to me. The phrase
"certain drugs" refers to all drugs that are behind a prescription
wall, or cetain drugs that are, but should not be given the cost
analysis?
Are you advocating the complete dismantling of any prescription
system and complete legalization, or a much relaxed system that
weighs those benefits from a scientific cost/benefit analysis
without political pressures. Obviously, it is plausible that the
former could be containsed within the former, but I think
it is unlikely.
Are you advocating the complete dismantling of any
prescription system and complete legalization, or a much relaxed
system that weighs those benefits from a scientific cost/benefit
analysis without political pressures. Obviously, it is plausible
that the former could be containsed within the former, but I think
it is unlikely.
"certain drugs" was referring to the drugs that are only available
via prescription.
Other than drugs that have a significant detrimental impact to
society beyond the individual user (such as the over-usage of
anti-biotics leading to stronger bacterium which is bad for society
as a whole), yes, I think the whole prescription system should be
dismantled. (And yes, I know a similar argument is used to justify
the WoD, but what I say is "bad for society" has a scientific, not
social science, basis.)
Florida's mandatory minimum sentence for drug trafficking
applies to illegal possession of narcotics above an arbitrarily
defined weight threshold
Ah yes. Not only is intent to distribute defined by the
amount you possess (presumption of innocence, anyone?), but the
threshold is determined by weight, a standard that may or may not
bear any relevance at all years after the applicable statute was
passed. Well, we wouldn't want to make prosecutors have to actually
prove their case, would we? That would just make things
too difficult on the poor darlings, especially since the drug trade
has that damnable characteristic of there being no actual victim
who might actually complain and finger someone when a crime has
been committed. Funny that.
Pain expert Russell Portenoy easily rebutted this claim,
noting that patients who develop tolerance to opioids may end up
taking doses that seem enormous to people unfamiliar with long-term
pain treatment--doses that would kill someone unaccustomed to
narcotics.
Anybody familiar with boozeahol should be able to extrapolate this
much. My second term in college I ended up in the hospital with
alcohol poisoning from an amount of booze that later on I regularly
consumed before doing my stats homework.
Freshman year I was wholly unfamiliar and had no tolerance, my
senior year I was basically a functional drunk who'd consume an
entire fifth of whiskey and a case of beer at a go, try to convince
one of his roommate's hot friends to sleep with him, puke into his
tub, and proceed to pass out on the floor.
Seems like the same sort of logic would hold true for other
drugs.
MP, I think you're got it exactly backwards. If the prescription
regime were stronger - as in, doctors given greater lattitude by
the state and state medical boards empowered to crack down faster
and harder on docs whose practices violated sound medical (as
opposed to political) practice, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Pain doctors wouldn't be afraid to prescribe high doses for sound
medical reasons, because they would feel that the state board had
their back. The cops wouldn't want to pursue cases against doctors
who are operating according to the guidelines of the state boards,
because the cases wouldn't go anywhere.
it seems year in and year out, another "drug" abuse craze hits out country...last year heroin, this year "scripts", and ALWAYS with the money-maker, cannabis...those 750,000 arrests for simple possesion every year keep law enforcement coppers nicely padded and taxpayer free...pretty sad, but, in jeb bush land, would you expect anything else ?
joe,
What happens when the guidelines of the state boards run afoul of
federal controlled substances statutes? Really, I mean, would it
make sense for the state boards to even think about making
guidelines that didn't jive with federal laws? No. So, in effect,
your suggestion would result in doctors having LESS latitude, not
more, because they would have to comply, indirectly, with federal
controlled substances laws. We might have less federal cases
against doctors, but that's only because they would be running
afoul of federal laws less often. And in the end, the ones who lose
are the patients in pain, who are now at the sole mercy of federal
agents and their draconian restrictions.
If you honestly think that the feds would defer judgment to state
medical boards, even when their decisions ARE medically sound, then
you're living in a dream world. So the medical boards would
inevitably comply with all federal restrictions. Your idea wouldn't
remove politics from the equation, all it would do is make sure
that there is less confusion when it comes to complying with
draconian fed drug statutes.
joe-
I hear what you're saying, but ethical doctors trying to help
legitimately sick patients are only half the story. The other half
of the story is that there are a lot of people out there who are
trying to scam doctors to obtain medicine for recreational use. As
long as they can only get those drugs from a gatekeeper, the
doctors will be besieged from all sides: Investigators trying to
make sure the docs aren't prescribing to addicts, and addicts who
waste the doctors' time. I hear it all the time from relatives who
work in hospitals and clinics, how they get so many drug seekers
wasting their time.
The easiest way to relieve the burden on doctors is to make it so
that addicts no longer come to them for pills.
HA! This is just more proof of the left-wing MSM's attempt to
erode morality and decency in this country!
If Paey were really an American, he'd just suck it up and deal with
the pain instead of resorting to getting "high" to deal with
it.
Seems like the same sort of logic would hold true for other
drugs.
It's actually a different logic with opiates. A human's tolerance
for alcohol can't increase past a certain point. An alcoholic who
drinks a bottle of whiskey a day one year won't be drinking 50
bottles a day a year later. With opiates, however, this does
happen, which is why Paey was taking enough drugs to send a whole
village of novice users to the land of nod.
Anyone else notice how shamelessly the prosecutor held Paey's
refusal to cop a plea against him? "The man wouldn't play the game
so we threw the book at him." Sickening.
Evan,
"What happens when the guidelines of the state boards run afoul of
federal controlled substances statutes?" As we all just learned in
the Oregon assisted suicide case, the CSA contains a blanket
exception for drugs administered or posessed for a "legitimate
medical purpose," and the states are allowed to define "legitimate
medical purpose" for themselves. My "dream world" is the one upheld
by a recent Supreme Court decision.
Ultimately, thoreau, you are correct - the answer is to end the
Drug War. But in practical terms, I think it might be wise to a
have a Plan B, just in case Plan A takes a little while. Plan B,
having the "investigators" who keep track of doctors' prescriptions
be actual doctors who know something about medical practice and
haven't dedicated their lives to making drug arrests, would seem to
be a smart step at this point.
I don't mean this to be snarky, but joe's solution envisions a world in which a political process ("state medical boards empowered to crack down faster and harder") can be free of political pressures and will thus only do what they deem medically correct. In reality, however, political entities, which a state medical board clearly is, inevitably operate on political pressures. Sure, the pressures are less direct than they are on elected officials, but they are still very much there, in numerous forms.
It was also nice how the prosecutor insinuated Paey was dealing drugs without a shred of evidence (even after three months of surveillance). A crippled junkie is dealing mountains of pills out of his house but Florida's finest can't document a single transaction. Bullshit.
joe-
I'm all in favor of having a plan B, but I'm not optimistic about
how well it will work. Even if responsible doctors are allowed to
practice medicine with little fear of repercussions, they will
still be besieged by addicts. And with that many people seeking
pain pills, somebody will come along to help them get their fix.
When that person is eventually busted, the immediate question will
be why he was allowed to get away with it for as long as he did.
Especially if his slide into illegal practices was a gradual one.
He starts with some questionable calls in gray areas, and the
oversight people give him the benefit of the doubt. Then he makes a
few more dubious calls, and starts covering his tracks. Eventually
it snowballs and he's caught.
And then there's the outcry. And everybody decides that your
envisioned system of enlightened and minimalist oversight is
inadequate. So we're back to much heavier regulation of
medicine.
I'm all in favor of your idea if it can work. I'm just a
pessimist.
Still, joe's solution may be incrementally better than arbitrary and inflexible limits setup at the legislative level. Choose your poison, I guess.
He didn't take the plea because he thought he could beat the rap. He gambled that the jury would sympathize with him, and he lost. I look at this case, and so do a lot of you, and think it's a slam dunk he'd be acquited, but I don't know anything about the trial. Wouldn't the defense lawyer have said something like "if you convict, this handicapped husband and father of two will be automatically sent to prison for 25 years" and wouldn't he have brought in his own medical experts to say it was possible for him to consume so many pills himself. Prosecuters can be overzealous a-holes who live in a black and white world, but isn't Paey and his lawyer to blame, too?
fyodor, thoreau,
I realize that state medical boards will endure pressure to
politicize their medical judgements - especially when the
inevitable case thoreau describes comes about. The reason I think
these boards will do a better job protecting honest doctors is
because they have both the interest and the ability to push back
against this pressure, due to their credibility on the issue of
responsible medical treatment, and their desire to keep
politicians' dirty little paws off of their turf. If the state
medical board can point to a pile of disciplinary actions it has
taken, it will be in a much better position to ward off a law
enforcement takeover of physician oversight.
As we all just learned in the Oregon assisted suicide case,
the CSA contains a blanket exception for drugs administered or
posessed for a "legitimate medical purpose," and the states are
allowed to define "legitimate medical purpose" for
themselves.
I'm not so sure that we learned that the states can (or at
least not that only the states can) as much as we learned
that the US Attorney General can't. The decision certainly
did not invalidate Raich.
"He didn't take the plea because he thought he could beat the
rap. He gambled that the jury would sympathize with him, and he
lost."
As Paey mentioned in the 60 Minutes piece, if he took the plea deal
he would be branded with a drug conviction and incapable of
receiving pain medication for the rest of his life. He was thus
faced with the choice constant agony and freedom or incarceration
with pain medication, with the hope he'd eventually win on appeal.
Although both choices are godawful, to me Peay took the only
reasonable option. Sad commentary of our lost Drug War.
But wasn't Joe's solution basically what the situation used to
be, before the current slide down the slippery slope? And even
assuming the federal government would give up one bit of its power
- ha! - there are two problems.
First, as thoreau mentioned, there's the flooding of the healthcare
system by non-medical users - which just seems like waste. Second,
there's the basic freedom thing - why can't people get high if they
want to?
I think that MP's stance - a prescription system reserved for drugs
that have negative externalities such as antibiotics, and
everything else available over-the-counter - is probably the best
solution. Unfortunately, there's also a potential slippery slope
there - such a system might start out only controlling drugs with
real demonstrable negative externalities, but the government would
soon be back to controlling everything. That's why I say the
prescription system should be totally abolished. Then while we're
at it, demolish the FDA headquarters and use the rubble to build a
statue of Hippocrates.
"Wouldn't the defense lawyer have said something like "if you
convict, this handicapped husband and father of two will be
automatically sent to prison for 25 years"
I don't think so - I'm pretty sure that at trial a defence lawyer
can't bring up the issue of a mandatory minimum sentence as part of
their argument to the jury.
Wouldn't the defense lawyer have said something like "if you
convict, this handicapped husband and father of two will be
automatically sent to prison for 25 years"
The jury is there to determine whether or not the party is guilty
based on the evidence presented. The sentence the defendant faces
is not part of that equation. The problem here is the "mandatory
minimum" sentencing nonsense, which usurps the judge's power and
applies a blanket standard which in this case is completely
heavy-handed and inappropriate. I don't know how that prosecutor
sleeps at night.
e - It's actually a different logic with opiates. A human's
tolerance for alcohol can't increase past a certain
point.
It's the same logic with opiates. Tolerance stabilizes after a
period of use. The only difference is the relative magnitude
required to overcome it.
>wouldn't he have brought in his own medical experts to say
it was
>possible for him to consume so many pills himself.
Sure, assuming you could find an expert who wasn't worried the
prosecutor would be looking at prosecuting them right after they
said that.
"I STILL cannot understand why/how "drug" Limbaugh is still free
(well actually voluntarilly confined to his own private insane
asylum), is Florida really that corrupt?
"Drug" certainly must qualify for the mandatory minimum given the
over 300k in oxycontin (hillbilly heroin) that he purchased
illegally."
Damn, I hate this! I actually agree with Amazingdrx.
Eion,
To be more fair to joe than he probably ever would be to me, he
seems to acknowledge that "ending the Drug War" is the best
solution ultimately (not sure if by that he means he would also end
the prescription system as we currently know it, so I'll give him
that benefit of the doubt) but advocates the wise "state medical
board" with teeth program as a more realisticly realizable
alternative.
That said, what about it joe, is this what we used to have before
the slippery slope was slid down? I guess one could always advocate
returning to that point, as long as one realizes that it's likely
just a matter of time before we get back to the bad place we're at
now. But this is why some libertarians see little use to the Plan B
of a more beneficient government and get called wackjobs who won't
compromise, cause even if you push with all your might to get Nice
Government, it's only a matter of time till you're back with Bad
Ugly Nasty Monstrous Government. Maybe it's still worth it to get
government to be Nice if just for a little while, but I certainly
understand why that might seem futile as well.
fyodor,
I am not an expert in this area, but I believe the heart of my
proposal - keeping the cops out unless the state boards chose to
forward the case onto them - would be a novelty, not a return to a
past system.
I also don't pretend to have worked through the issues to an even
remotely consistent harmonization of my positions on prescription
drugs and ending the drug war. How does treating prescription drugs
like drugs, and recreational drugs like supplements, grab you?
How does treating prescription drugs like drugs, and
recreational drugs like supplements, grab you?
Offhand, I'd call it an improvement!
Except for the flood of "supplement" jokes...
Ok, I'm no lawyer, but I think I understand now that you can't
really bring sentencing into a defense, and also, that it might be
difficult to find and/or pay for an expert medical witness willing
to testify on your behalf about the quantity of painkillers you are
consuming. No win all-around.
Also, isn't the Rush case still open?
How does treating prescription drugs like drugs, and
recreational drugs like supplements, grab you?
Badly if "Bob" will be starring in ads for more products.
if "Bob" will be starring in ads for more
products.
More? Besides Subgenius products? I suppose certain things could
become Subgenius products...
"As we all just learned in the Oregon assisted suicide case, the
CSA contains a blanket exception for drugs administered or posessed
for a "legitimate medical purpose," and the states are allowed to
define 'legitimate medical purpose' for themselves. My 'dream
world' is the one upheld by a recent Supreme Court decision."
No, what the SC said was that Congress has not yet passed a law
that allows the Attorney General to define "legitimate medical
purpose." The Oregon decision did not say that Congress
was constitutionally prohibited from doing so, and indeed, under
the Raich decision, it seems that such a federal law would
be allowed to supersede state laws defining the term
differently.
Personal anecdote (FWIW) -
I've had several serious medical issues that have put me on pain
medication for months at a time, up to an including the morphine
drip.
Not that my personal anecdote means anything, but this past week I
was in need of more pain medication to by some time prior to seeing
the doctor again.
After going a few rounds with the doctor and the receptionist to
prove I didn't need an appointment because I wasn't an addict I was
given 16 pills which will hardly last me two days due to the amount
I need over the normal individual.
As an adult, I find it humiliating that I have to explain my need
for medication to people that know nothing about my pain issues
(even after explaining them) or can grasp my complete medical
history (even after explaining it), then I still have to cry about
my pain until they finally give in (which they did, but as noted
sparingly so).
And keep in mind, the doctors are somewhat sympathetic to me - they
are simply scared of two things - One - I might be an addict and
Two - even if they prescribe me what I want, the pharmacist will
ask why so much? And possibly report us both anyway.
The WOD not only treats me like a child without any knowledge about
my medical needs at all, but also the doctors, pharmacists, and
anyone else involved.
My hope is, thanks to people like Paey, that by the time my child
is in need or if she ever needs such medications, she won't have to
beg and plead to get what she needs.
Wishful thinking says that hopefully by the time I leave this rock,
I'll be able to do the same.
why on earth would you make a distinction between drugs to
determine if they are "prescription" or "supplement". What about
drugs that are used for both?
How is it that the state could have no interest in my recreational
drug use but at the same time have an intense interest in how I
treat a medical condition? "Shoot all the heroin you like but you
better get written permission before trying that cancer treatment".
hunh?
Why? This makes no sense at all to me.
nmg
Actually, such a policy would translate more accurately
as:
"Shoot all the heroin you like but you better get written
permission before trying that cancer treatment, unless you just
want to get high from it, then that's ok."
nmg
Amy is right, Congress could pass a law giving the feds the
authority to define "legitimate medical purposes," and it would
probably be upheld.
But I doubt they would. It would be too unpopular. Why haven't the
Republicans brought it up already?
nmg,
They wouldn't be regulating drugs. They'd be regulating
prescriptions - ie, the practice of medicine.
I've noted elsewhere that other countries with more or less the
same kinds of narcotics laws as everywhere still don't have the
problem of undertreatment of pain as in the USA. Some have traced
that to the way the USA skimmed Europe of Calvinism, but I think it
has more to do with perceived lack of motivation in countries with
socialized medicine for doctors to be pill pushers. That is, they
trust their doctors there more because they ban entrepreneurship by
doctors.
As to Limbaugh, I've never believed it. An unnamed source alleges
it, he "confesses" on air, claims to go to rehab -- it's all a
publicity stunt and cover for having neutralized his position on
narcotics issues. Nor do I believe he went deaf, got a cochlear
implant, and got an outstandingly good result from it. I think he
just stopped paying att'n to phoners-in for a while, and later laid
it to hearing loss!
Finally, the "legitimate medical purpose" phrase is not in the
applicable portion of the federal CSA, but in a regulation adopted
by the DEA, and that regulation itself hasn't been litigated. The
applicable provision of the CSA simply says "professional practice"
and leaves open-ended the types of practitioners a jurisdiction may
license. So theoretically a state could license getting-high
practitioners to dispense drugs, as in the old Galiber bill in NY.
That's not to say Congress couldn't amend the CSA to outlaw that
sort of thing, but only that the CSA as now written does not.
Note also that there was no action by the att'y gen'l regarding use
of federally controlled substances in administering a death
penalty.
Robert
ummm... again... why? Why regulate the "practice of medicine". I
don't see how you benefit from regulating use of drugs for
treatment of medical conditions but not the use of drugs for
recreation.
nmg
nmg,
People going to doctors for treatment can be confident that those
doctors are being held to high professional standards.
If your concern is just that people can be aware that their
doctor is adhereing to high professional standards, there are
myriad ways for consumers to determine this without having to
resort to the coercive, heavy handed, one-size fits all
prescription system.
And what if I determine for myself that I want to use a certain
medication? Under your system all I have to do is claim I want to
use it for recreation and the govt leaves me alone? Again, that
doesn't make much sense. Just let people use the drugs they want to
use for whatever reason they see fit.
nmg
If there had been one person on the jury with half a brain (I'm sure the prosecution made sure there wasn't) they would have practiced jury nullification and found this man not guilty. Most of the founding fathers wrote on this subject and basically said that it's not a citizens right to practice jury nullification for an unjust law, It is a citizens duty! Problem is if the prosecutor thinks that you're intelligent and principled you have seen your last jury duty summons. They only want the sheep that they think can be led.
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