Julian Sanchez | January 23, 2006
Who's your daddy? Kerry Howley makes the case that it's not the sperm bank's responsibility to tell you.
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My ex-wife was a egg donor many times over. She was the kind of
woman who would get pregnant if you just looked at her the wrong
way. Her reproductive capabilities were practically a superpower.
To me, it seemed like such a shame that responsible, well-adjusted,
committed couples were struggling to have children when this
Appalachian tart was practically giving them away.
In around ten years I expect to see an influx of teenagers who look
"strangely familiar".
Should anonymous sperm or egg donation be a
crime?
That depends a lot on where you leave it.
As an adult adoptee, I naturally have a different take on this issue. Fortunately, the internet solved the problem of "privacy" laws which were nothing but a hinderance for both my biological mother and myself. I suppose there is a difference between adoption and "genetic donation", but to the child, there is always that need to know where he came from.
but to the child, there is always that need to know where he
came from.
But if the right to know where he came from were enshrined in law,
that child might not ever have been conceived.
But if the right to know where he came from were enshrined
in law, that child might not ever have been conceived.
In case of egg and sperm donation, you are exactly correct. I just
happen to think it is cruel beyond belief (purely because of my own
personal experience) to deny the child the right to know. It's like
condemning a child to grow up with a huge hole inside of him that
can never be filled.
The real problem here isn't so much anonymity per se as it is child support obligations, which have strict liability and are retroactive. It is unlikely that any egg donor would be hit up for child support, as the political fallout would be enormous, but sperm donors don't enjoy such clout. No law protects a sperm donor from a paternity suit, so any attempt to strip donation of anonymity guarantees there will be one, and the law says the plaintiff will win. When that day comes, rates of sperm donation will drop precipitously. This effect can already be seen in the UK, where similar anti-anonymity laws have already been passed.
Well, obviously, if you're the father of the child, you are
responsible for it, even if you never had sex with
the mother, never met the mother, and donated your sperm with the
understanding you would in no way be regarded as the father or held
responsible...
Callous, irresponsible men.
Eric-
FWIW, although I argued in favor of holding biological fathers
responsible in a previous thread, I would make an exception here:
If the sperm donors make donation contingent on not being held
responsible, and if the recipients sign an agreement to not hold
the donor responsible, then all parties involved have agreed on how
to assign responsibility.
My stance in that other thread was in regard to the default
assumption. I'd be totally cool with exempting the biological
father from responsibility if both consenting sexual partners
signed a waiver.
Come to think of it, Dave Chapelle did a skit about signing waivers
before sex. It had clauses for a variety of sexual favors, consent
forms to avoid possible assault charges later, and even a
non-disclosure agreement to avoid embarrassments.
Come to think about it, everything that we argued about in the
previous thread could be rendered moot if sexual partners signed
waivers and courts agreed to recognize them.
That last part, alas, is the catch. People sign all sorts of
waivers every day yet file all sorts of lawsuits nonetheless.
Plus, it would kind of ruin the mood. Two people are making out,
ready to go to the next step, and then one person or the other says
"Excuse me, just a moment. Would you mind signing this waiver? No,
go ahead, take your time reading it. You can run it by your lawyer
if you like. Oh, he's not available at this hour? Well, how about
this: You take it to your lawyer tomorrow, and we meet up tomorrow
night for dinner and take it from there? OK, see you tomorrow."
As an adult adoptee, I naturally have a different take on
this issue.
As an adult adoptee, I don't think either party has a right to know
the identity of their gene-sharer. If it's a mutual wish then
that's great, but if one party wishes to remain anonymous then the
other has no right to invade their privacy.
Most adoption agencies will be happy to hook you up if both parties
consent. No wa in hell should they divulge the information if only
one party wishes it.
"and if the recipients sign an agreement to not hold the donor
responsible, then all parties involved have agreed on how to assign
responsibility."
Not that I disagree with your main point, but "all parties
involved" have *not* agreed on anything... unless you think the
resultant child isn't involved.
BTW, this Google spell-checker thing is cool... I can quickly
spell-check just about anywhere.
thoreau, you're quite the romantic
you'd need to have certified breathlyzer readings on each signatory
to ensure that both parties are in a mental state capable of
signing a legal contract, not to mention a blood sample to ensure
no non-alcoholic intoxicants were involved
oh, hell, what we REALLY need is a huge regulatory agency to
oversee all sexual liaisons
Dr. T,
So you think that people who have sex and are doing everything in
their power to not have a baby should be responsible for the baby,
but people that give away sperm with the intent of creating a baby
should not be responsible?
"...people that give away sperm with the intent of creating a
baby should not be responsible?"
Er, such a person is in the same position as someone who gives up a
child for adoption. He gives up parental responsibilities and rghts
because there are other people ready and willing to take them over.
Not the same situation at all.
MJ-
Exactly. The sperm donor would indeed be responsible for his kid,
except for the fact that he has entered into an agreement that a
suitable proxy will be found.
Andy D.-
Fair enough, I did phrase that poorly. I would agree that the child
is involved, but the father has signed an agreement that somebody
else will take over his duties. There's a difference between
abandoning your responsibilities and delegating them.
I'd just like to throw my two cents in here:
I've never met my biological father; Hell, i've never even seen a
picture of him. I can't say i've been adversely affected by the
situation.
Not to denigrate anyone else's pain and suffering, but i don't buy
into the idea that not knowing your genetic parentage forces you to
grow up "missing something".
I don't know the exact circumstances of my mother and father
falling out, and I don't particularly care. I certainly don't hold
his absense against him; he's just one of many people in the world
i haven't met. If my biological father were to try to get in
contact with me i'd be happy to meet him, but my first question
would be "So what is the average lifespan in your family, and are
there any genetic conditions i should be aware of?"
So, speaking as one who's never known how and by whom he was sired,
paternal anonymity does not have to be a terrible experience for
the child. It's all a matter of how it is approached and how one
wants to deal with it.
Come to think of it, Dave Chapelle did a skit about signing
waivers before sex
Eh, let's just admit that the only safe course is to keep one's
Precious Bodily Fluids to oneself. It's working for me, this
week!
Come to think of it, Dave Chapelle did a skit about signing
waivers before sex
Eh, let's just admit that the only safe course is to keep one's
Precious Bodily Fluids to oneself. It's working for me, this
week!
BrianTerrel,
Comparing your situation of coming from a broken home to that of
someone who never was able to know EITHER parent is pretty
stupid.
A woman who is donating eggs is being paid for **more** than just her "time." She has to undergo a painful series of injections to push her ovaries into a hyper-ovulatory state to maximize the egg harvest. Then she has to undergo serial vaginal-probe ultrasound to identify when the eggs are ready for harvest. Then she has to undergo laparoscopic surgery to harvest the eggs. Laparoscopic surgery is fairly safe, but does pose risks of hemorrhage, infection, permanent damage to internal organs as well as the risks of general anesthesia. To maintain that such women should not be compensated, and compensated damn well, for assuming these risks is absurd.
I think general anesthesia is significantly less common for egg
retrieval than the alternatives of intravenous sedation or local
anesthesia. The eggs are retrieved by a needle that pierces the
vaginal wall and goes into the ovary. Typically, I believe, a
laparoscope isn't used. Instead ultrasound is used to guide the
needle to the center of the follicle. I'm under the impression that
the greatest risk to an egg donor comes from the possibility of
complications due to ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, associated
with the fertility drugs the donor uses.
My knowledge of the above is due primarily to reading and
secondarily through what I've been told by doctors and my wife. My
wife and I have been through five in-vitro attempts, one of which
used donor eggs. I was with my wife during prep for all retrievals
and transfers, but was asked to leave for each of the
procedures.
The daily injections my wife required were indeed painful,
especially the first time around, but that was primarily due to the
progesterone shots, which, if I understand correctly, are not
required of the donor. The other shots were small needles that she
could administer herself. Progesterone, on the other hand, is
delivered in peanut or sesame oil which requires big needles and
someone else (in our case, me) has to push so hard on the plunger
that his thumb will hurt afterward.
I agree with David that it's absurd to think that donors shouldn't
be paid to donate, but I think his description overstates the pain
and risk.
I've never met my biological father; Hell, i've never even
seen a picture of him. I can't say i've been adversely affected by
the situation.
I've never met either of my gene donors. I have no idea why this
sort of thing bothers some people.
"what we REALLY need is a huge regulatory agency to oversee
all sexual liaisons"
Inspired by the most logical race in the galaxy, the Vulcans,
breeding will be permitted once every seven years. For many of you
this will mean much less breeding, for me, much much more.
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