Jacob Sullum | January 18, 2006
The Center for Science in the Public Interest and the Coalition for a Commercial-Free Childhood plan to sue Kellogg and Viacom for violating a Massachusetts consumer protection law by marketing food products of low nutritional value to children. "Nickelodeon and Kellogg engage in business practices that literally sicken our children," says CSPI Executive Director Michael Jacobson. "It's a multimedia brainwashing and re-education campaign—and a disease-promoting one at that."
Under a Massachusetts law barring unfair or deceptive advetrising, each exposure to an actionable ad counts as a violation. At $25 a pop, the damages could run into the billions. But CSPI says it would be happy if Kellogg would simply agree to overhaul its products and its marketing strategy.
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"Nickelodeon and Kellogg engage in business practices that
literally sicken our children,"
Literally? What, they're selling cereal infected with e.coli?
People like this make my head literally explode.
My only hope is that Milton from Office Space is working in an
ever-shrinking cubicle somwhere at CSPI, and that he really will
make good on his threat.
The CSPI ought to be put out of comission as a public danger
because every time I read something from them, my blood pressure
skyrockets to dangerous levels.
Slightly off-topic: Has the left ever protested Schoolhouse Rock? It promoted a fact-based recitation of grammer and math, and acted as propaganda for a society-of-laws and western culture in general. As these elements have been effctively excised from public ed, I can't see them tolerating such wholesale brainwashing. Hell, "Elbow Room" probably counts as hate speech in certain school districts.
These days, it seems, reality is about a week behind
satire.
Hey, it's catching up!
Jeff, why are you posting here, you better go get yourself some
Mop 'n' Glo, rubber gloves and a big box of SOS pads.
Looks like you've got some serious cleaning to do.
Under a Massachusetts law barring unfair or deceptive
advetrising, each exposure to an actionable ad counts as a
violation. At $25 a pop, the damages could run into the
billions.
The Mass. Supreme Judicial Court's decision yesterday in the
Hershenow
case may throw that theory for a loop:
"The plaintiffs apparently assume that the availability of
statutory damages in the amount of twenty-five dollars, see G. L.
c. 93A, § 9(3), in lieu of actual damages, eliminates the need to
prove a loss resulting from a defendant's deceptive conduct. The
statutory damage provision does not supplant the requirement to
prove causation under § 9. It merely eliminates the need to
quantify an amount of actual damages if the plaintiff can establish
a cognizable loss caused by a deceptive act. ...
"Every consumer is, of course, entitled to the full protection of
law. If any person invades a consumer's legally protected
interests, and if that invasion causes the consumer a loss --
whether that loss be economic or noneconomic -- the consumer is
entitled to redress under our consumer protection statute. A
consumer is not, however, entitled to redress under G. L. c. 93A,
where no loss has occurred. To permit otherwise is irreconcilable
with the express language of G. L. c. 93A, ? 9, and our earlier
case law."
More so than the maladroit use of the word literal, I think the
most offensive semantic device these cock-knockers use is the "our
children" trope.
If Michael Jacobson has children they are HIS
children. The children who live at my house are MY
children. His casual inference of common guardianship is repugnant.
What on earth could lead him to believe that I would let him have
any say whatsoever in my decisions as a parent?
Because he knows better than you.
Careful, Jacobson might be a scanner. How else would Jenn's head
have exploded?
A quick review of the "Center for Science in the Public Interest" website suggests that it in fact does no work that is actually science or in the public interest. Maybe someone could organize a suit against CSPI for deceptive advertising. Anyone out there that has actually given money to this joke of an organization that could serve as a plaintiff?
I wish I owned Kellogg's, so I could fortify my cereal with
extra vitamins (thus negating the "low nutritional value" bit) and
then add five times the sugar.
Fuck you, Michael Jacobsen. And learn what the hell a "disease" is
before you insist that it is caused by cereal.
But CSPI says it would be happy if Kellogg would simply
agree to overhaul its products and its marketing
strategy.
More likely CSPI "would be happy" if Kellogg's settles for a few
million of the billions they seek.
Your Honor, the Respondent is obviously unfit as a parent. See State's exhibit A: a 2800 ounce box of Frosted Flakes, with complementary rolling wheels, bought at Costco. They were feeding thier children this ...stuff. They even claim, "They're great." Oh, the humanity.
This one is my favorite from the CSPI website:
"At the beginning of summer, CSPI complained to the Beer Institute
and Coors Brewing Company about a television ad that we believed
violated the Institute�s voluntary advertising guidelines.
"The ad featured a bus boy rapidly clearing tables of bottles of
Coors Light beer. Because he was not really a bar employee, but
obviously an imposter interested in collecting the bottles to
improve his chances of winning free music in a related Coors
promotion, we alleged that the advertisement portrayed or implied
illegal activity, a �no-no� in the Code.
"Coors asked CSPI to utilize the independent third-party ad review
process it had arranged with the National Advertising Division of
the Better Business Bureau (BBB). After a rigorous back and forth
within the BBB�s Advertising Pledge Program, the BBB ultimately
upheld CSPI�s complaint and directed Coors to discontinue the ad.
Coors, without conceding any wrong-doing, immediately complied on
August 5."
The ad "portrayed or implied illegal activity"? Since when is it
illegal to wander around a bar picking up empty bottles?
You bastard, you stole my trash!
Jennifer is small and compact. Any mess caused a cranial
explosion will be limited. Given her poor diet, I expect the meat
to be stringy so the spread pattern should be managable. Her blood,
thin from malnutrition, will have probably evaporated by the time I
get home.
I'm more worried about what's in Cocoa Puffs that instilled such a
neurological condition in Sonny.
Uh, who buys the cereals????
Let's blame them... the mother and the father...oompa
...oompa..oompa-dee-do.
As bad as they CSPI is not the most obnoxious of the food-nanny
groups; that would have to be Neil Barnard's "Physician's Committe
For Responsible Medicine," with their TV PSAs featuring officious
assholes in lab coats bursting into a home, snatching a slice of
pizza out of a kid's hand (I thought pizza was nutritious!) and
stocking the fridge with veggieburgers. At the end of the spot you
see these dickheads gleefully marching out of the house,
pronouncing, "one down, ten million to go."
Hey, Dr, Neil: you'll get my pizza when you pry it from my cold,
dead, oh nevermind...
Class actions against so-called "candy cereals" were tried and
failed in California. I don't see them succeeding elsewhere.
It seems to me that including the federally-mandated nutritional
label on the box is -- or should be -- a safe harbor (i.e., an
absolute defense) to claims such as this.
Uh, who buys the cereals???? Let's blame them... the mother
and the father...oompa ...oompa..oompa-dee-do.
There's the problem, Isn't it? Parents refuse to accept any blame
for their kids condition. Sugary cereals and their commercials have
existed as long as television. Yet it's today's indulgent parents
(who are terrified of saying no to their kids) need a legal
solution to the "problem". If your kid is a butterball headed for
diabetes, tell him he can't have any more fruit loops.
I recently purchased a cereal which purported to be "magically delicious". This implies some kind of supernatural deliciousness. Upon eating it however, I found that it was only delicious in the normal manner as consistent with the laws of physics. I am filing suit for a refund and also to force the company to alter its deceptive marketing tactics. :)
Jennifer is small and compact. Any mess caused a cranial
explosion will be limited. Given her poor diet, I expect the meat
to be stringy so the spread pattern should be managable. Her blood,
thin from malnutrition, will have probably evaporated by the time I
get home.
And yet I am healthier, happier and more fit than those
obsessive-compulsive foodies who don't dare put anything edible in
their mouths without first measuring it on a food scale, checking
the CSPI website to see if there's anything bad about it,
calculating what percentage of their USDA recommended nutritional
allowance it contains, and keeping any salt or spices the hell away
from it because flavor is bad for you.
And they will all drop dead at fifty because their constant worry
over their diet will give them a fatal ulcer. Meanwhile, I will be
interviewed on my hundredth birthday and tell the reporters I owe
my longevity to the consumption of cheese sauce, pasta, pot, fried
eggs, Flintstone's vitamins and at least one serving of vegetables
every month.
"Nickelodeon and Kellogg engage in business practices that
literally sicken our children," says CSPI Executive Director
Michael Jacobson.
Well he's a fine one to talk! After all those child molestation
charges!
Oh, wait... Jacobson...never mind.
The Center for Science in the Public Interest and the Coalition
for a Commercial-Free Childhood plan to sue Kellogg and Viacom
for... "a multimedia brainwashing and re-education campaign?and a
disease-promoting one at that."
Taken to the extreme, CSPI's basically saying that any message
anyone doesn't like is "brainwashing" and should be subject to
lawsuits. Can I sue them for helping to contribute to my
misanthropy?
That's my state, the only one in the union where the government
sets car insurance rates and a voter-approved income tax rollback
gets frozen by the legislature.
The Center for Science in the Public Interest is neither a center
for science, nor in the public interest. As Ralph Nader does not
constitute "the public".
I remember convincing my dad to buy me lucky charms when I was a
kid - that means that *I* was brainwashed, and I brainwashed HIM
into buying them for me! Those ads are really potent stuff!
Jennifer--
Your diet is incomplete. You need to add ice cream, and more
chocolate. I recommend Klondike bars.
Stealing from a comment by the erstwhile Evan Williams, I'll say this: The CSPI is a sugar-coated piece of shit.
I eat chocolate, Chuck. Didn't you see where I mentioned "one serving of vegetables per month?" Cacao beans count as vegetables.
And they will all drop dead at fifty because their constant
worry over their diet will give them a fatal ulcer.
At the risk of being Hakluyt-ishly overliteral, ulcers are caused
by a bacterium, not stress. It was in the news and everything.
Someone won the Nobel for medicine over it.
Well, Phil, if they'd been smart enough to follow my diet, the bacterium would have starved to death.
David -
There's the problem, Isn't it? Parents refuse to accept any
blame for their kids condition.
I wouldn't necessarily conflate lawyers suing for billions to
parents.
Not that all parents are good or accept responsibility well, just
that this lawsuit by itself, without thousands or more parents
signing on, isn't that proof.
Yeah, but the picture has the guy eating 12 bran muffins, three glasses of milk, a pitcher of orange juice, 18 slices of bacon...
Literally? What, they're selling cereal infected with
e.coli?
People like this make my head literally explode.
In a true libertarian paradise, companies could legally sell foods
infected with e.coli.
After all, who are these �experts� who tell us that e.coli is bad
for us? They think they know better? If somebody eats e.coli
infected food and dies, it was their fault because they knew the
risks of eating. Without the nanny state, the Free Market would
sort things about because once enough people died from one
company�s infected foot they�d start to lose sales. What a
miscarriage of justice that the State forces companies to sell safe
food against their will!!!
In a true libertarian paradise, companies could legally sell
foods infected with e.coli.
I might be wrong, but it is my understanding that sanitary foor
laws only prohibit selling food containing e.coli through
mainstream mass-produced food venues, such as supermarkets. There
is a presumption among most shoppers in those venues that the food
doesn't have that kind of stuff.
If I pour e.coli onto some popcorn and say to my adult friend (who
knows what that pathogen is): "hey wanna buy this e.coli laden
popcorn for $5?" I don't think I would be breaking the law.
I don't even think I would be liable if he buys it and eats it;
except perhaps if I know that he is mentally ill or
something.
That being said, yes Dan T. I know your post was just a joke.
Jennifer - It's amazing that most of the time when people say
"literally", they mean "figuratively". I've never heard anyone say
"His head figuratively exploded.".
There are a couple good takedowns of Jacobson and CSPI at
Stats.org.
From another thread...
Passing it along
Stimulus: "rationalizes away the facts that don;t support the
beleif...call to mind other essential truths born out of
exaggerations like The War on Terror ...Frankenfood... Global
Warming..."
Response:*cough, sigh* urhumm...The Free Market...hrumph...Natural
Law...*cough* ... Government is Violence...Scientific Studies are
biased by the government funding..*cough*... Libertarianism is
Rational
Stimulus: vigorous assertion won;t make them truth...
Response:
Amen I AM WITH YOU on that point
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