Ronald Bailey | January 17, 2006
I am not a Supreme Court Justice (though if any more positions open up, I'd be happy to be considered), but on its face, it seems to me that the Court has contradicted itself with its decision in Gonzales v. Oregon. In its medical marijuana ruling in Gonzales v. Raich, the court declared that the Commerce Clause of the Constitution gave the Feds the authority to prosecute people who prescribe, supply, or use marijuana to ease the nausea associated with cancer and AIDS treatments.
In an article back in October, I cited the argument of University of Redlands government professor Arthur Svenson, "If homegrown medical marijuana is in interstate commerce, then surely so too are the barbiturates, which are clearly commercial and move across state lines, patients use to end their lives."
Yet, according to the Associated Press:
Justices, on a 6-3 vote, said the 1997 Oregon law used to end the lives of more than 200 seriously ill people trumped federal authority to regulate doctors. New Chief Justice John Roberts backed the Bush administration, dissenting with the majority for the first time.
That means the administration improperly tried to use a federal drug law to prosecute Oregon doctors who prescribe overdoses.
Allowing doctors to write scripts for medicines so that people can kill themselves is just fine, but prescribing medicines so that people can live more comfortably with grave illnesses is criminal. Subtle indeed are the ways of our nine justices.
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The justices should not be deciding based on outcomes. the
question in Raich was whether a US law trumps a state law (it did).
the question in the Oregon suicide case is whether a US
administrative agency trumps state law (it doesn't).
This is not an area where we should be looking at commonsense
results. It is true that in both Raich and the Oregon suicide law
the state law makes a lot more sense than the federal policy it
conflicted with. However, the jurisprudential thinking is:
how the states and federal government allocate and/or share power
is not decided by the court based on which party the court thinks
has a more sensible policy.
In other words, the allocation of power questions should come out
the same way whether regardless of who is making wiser policy in
any given case. I am a states rights guy. Always have been. I would
have wanted Oregon to win even if they were trying to restrict
access to assisted suicide in the face of an adverse DoJ. Would
you?
The question "Can Congress regulated the dispensation of drugs by doctors to patients?" is not the same question as "Does the CSA allow the feds to overrule the states on what is, and what is not, a legitimate medical purpose?"
Thomas was consistent. Read his dissent, he calls the rest of
the court to task for saying one thing in Gonzales v. Raich and
then reversing itself completely in this decision.
(click my name for the dissent)
I'm not sure they're inconsistent in the narrow sense of what the specific legal question at issue. The California case is about whether the interstate commerce clause of the Consitution permits the federal government to regulate home-grown marijuana that is never sold. Answer, according to this court: it does. The Oregon case doesn't address that broad question. It looks at a specific federal statute and asks whether that statute gives the AG the right to make the determination that he did. Answer--it doesn't. What if Congress passed a law tomorrow that purported to give the AG the authority to make these determinations? Probable answer: they could, under Gonzales v. Raich.
So, is Thomas just basing his dissent on Raich being precedent? Since he thought that was wrongly decided, it's not clear to me why he's changing his mind here.
So, is Thomas just basing his dissent on Raich being precedent? Since he thought that was wrongly decided, it's not clear to me why he's changing his mind here.
Both cases turned on the same points of law, as Thomas' dissent makes clear. His opening paragraph is judicial smack-down.
I doubt Thomas is changing his mind. He's just registering his dissent from the majority's reasoning.
Yes, it looks like Thomas is using Raich as the precedent for
his dissent. To quote the honorable justice, emphasis at the end is
in the original version:
Justice Thomas, dissenting.
When Angel Raich and Diane Monson challenged the application of the
Controlled Substances Act (CSA)...to their purely intrastate
possession of marijuana for medical use as authorized under
California law, a majority of this Court (a mere seven months ago)
determined that the CSA effectively invalidated California's law
because "the CSA is a comprehensive regulatory regime specifically
designed to regulate which controlled substances can be utilized
for medicinal purposes, and in what manner." Gonzales v.
Raich, 545 U. S.
I asked this on the other thread...
Why could't Thomas side with the majority in a concurring opinion?
Couldn't he have made his statement regarding consistency in such a
concurring opinion?
Preventing patients from growing and distributing marijuana does
fall under the federal power to regulate interstate commerce.
Preventing doctors from prescribing legal drugs in doses high
enough to cause death to terminally ill patients does not fall
under the federal power to license doctors to prescribe
drugs.
I don't agree with the first opinion, and I think the second
doesn't go far enough (where in the constitution is the federal
government authorized to decide who can prescribe drugs?), but
there's no direct contradiction between them.
I don't quite understand Thomas. Is he really so idealistic and
principled to dissent in this case as a smart ass because he thinks
it is inconsitent with Raich (a point that is quite debateable and
not as clear cut as tries to make it)?
If I really believe in state authority then I take a victory when I
can get it. This court is 9 politicians, pure and simple. And
Thomas can't accept a victory that obviously limits federal power
but instead resorts to a whiny baby attitude.
Most disappointing is it looks like Roberts is pro-Fed justice
close to Scalia, especially when it suits his religious views.
The question I have is whether Thomas would have concurred
separately (thus preserving the decision that I think he agrees
with) had two of the concurring justices dissented. I believe that
the answer would be yes - he would have taken the states rights
victory and run with it.
His behavior strikes me as a little childish - not what we deserve
from a supreme court justice. The lack of detail and taunting
language in his dissent seem to indicate a lack of seriousness on
his part in this case.
Yes, it looks like Thomas is using Raich as the precedent
for his dissent. To quote the honorable justice, emphasis at the
end is in the original version:
As I read it, Thomas is saying that he is only dissenting because
the other fucktards on the court can't create an intelligent
argument that reconciles what he considers their idiotic Raich
decision with Oregon.
One has to wonder, do you think Thomas has gotten beyond not
respecting, and simply now just hates, most of his collegues?
Because the between the lines venom in this dissent is astounding
(and quite enjoyable to read).
I think some people need to go back and read the Thomas dissent
again, especially the footnotes. The doctors removed the states
rights issue from the argument themselves, focussing on the stat.
language instead. Thomas mentions this in the footnotes. They did
so because of Raich. So, rather than argue constitutional law, they
argued stat. intepretation and won.
Also, Thomas did not just write a short 4 page dissent, he also
signed the Scalia dissent, which is not clear at all (as ususal),
but basically says that SCOTUS has already decided this issue and
if only stat interpretation is at issue, then broad deference is
shown to the legislature and agency. He sites a number of precedent
opinions written by liberal judges. Thomas wrote an extra dissent
to clear up the muddied con law issues that the majority injected
unnecessarily.
There is no con law issue at play here so there is nothing
inconsistent with the dissenters. The majority talks about con law,
but since the doctors didn't argue it, it amounts to alot of
verbiage.
Thomas can be as snippy as he wants to be. He's already in
agreement with the original dissent, but he wanted to add one more
comment on the dissonance between the Raich decision and this new
decision.
Now another case is bound to come along that will challenge the
Oregon decision using the logic in Raich or vice versa and the
judges will be forced to reconcile their two decision, and thereby
invalidate one decision or the other.
Cases like this are bound to happen over the course of time, but
Thomas is particularly peeved because the two incongruous decisions
have come only seven months apart.
I don't think the Oregon case is particularly telling. The Court
seems to be saying that while the Feds have the authority to
overrule the Oregon policy, they have not yet done so.
Administrative policy is not a substitute for Legislative
action.
Should the Feds simply pass a law banning assisted suicide, SCOTUS
will be happy to find a commerce clause/equal protection
justification.
With Medical Marijuana, Ashcroft did a better job of convincing
that not only COULD the Feds overrule CA policy, but that they
INTENDED to.
So what does this ruling do to those painkiller-prescribing doctors we've read about that have been busted by the Feds? Are they now able to get new trials after this ruling?
Thomas is taking issue with the majority's interpretation of the CSA. The majority ruled in Oregan that the CSA only pertains to regulation to prevent drug abuse. Under this interpretation the CSA would not pertain to using Marijuana for medicinal purposes.
The First Amendment says we own our minds. The Second Amendment
SHOULD HAVE SAID we own our bodies.
Had we had that Second Amendment, then SCOTUS would almost surely
have been consistent and legalized drugs while legalizing
suicide.
In the meantime, Dave W., explained above what a tangled web SCOTUS
weaves.
None of the others laugh at his pubic hair on the coke can prank
anymore.
His porn collection is still on videotape, the court refuses to pay
for the upgrade to DVD. Interns just stare at him quizically when
he offers to share his "tapes".
Plus the girls on the court object to his "gettin' busy" under his
robe. No wonder he is miffed at his fellow jurists?
Alito looks like he will know how to respect a brother, so maybe Clarence will enjoy some kneeling time soon, and his mood will improve.
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