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|9.28.05 @ 9:41AM|#
Ron,
Great article, but I was surprised that you didn't mention how dangerous short seasons are. With a short period of time to catch fish, crews work round the clock. tired people make mistakes, and the sea is quite unforgiving.
I expect this is a major contributor to the fatality rate assosiated with the fishing profession.
Ron Hardin|9.28.05 @ 9:47AM|#
I'd cover fish as intellectual property.
ed|9.28.05 @ 9:52AM|#
Well, fish IS brain food.
|9.28.05 @ 10:07AM|#
tarran, this doesn't count?
>>>
Under the IFQs, the halibut season was expanded to 245 days, and fisher safety has greatly increased because boats can stay in port when the weather is bad.
|9.28.05 @ 10:10AM|#
With a short period of time to catch fish, crews work round the clock. tired people make mistakes, and the sea is quite unforgiving.
Not just the sea. I worked on the Kenai Peninsula and Kodiak Island one summer and I remember hearing stories of some captains who would ignore sailors overboard if a rescue meant catching fewer fish. On the other hand, the locals may have just been having me on.
|9.28.05 @ 10:11AM|#
Already, many New England fishers have voiced their opposition to the plan.
Strange, that article you linked to with that statement read more like a fact based argument FOR quotas vs. a hysteria driven argument AGAINST quotas.
|9.28.05 @ 10:12AM|#
Shocking to find this bit in the linked Washington Post article:
Environmentalists letting the perfect be the enemy of the good? No way.
Creative Ideas dep't|9.28.05 @ 10:45AM|#
Would be better to have a yearly auction for rights where starting bids are inversely proportional to the size of fish stocks.
My plan:
(1) incentives private fishers to privately take steps to increase the stock size;
(2) give the government a budget to address the tragedy of the commons issue; and
(3) would curtail fishing when stocks get critically low; and
(4) make sure that a couple of powerful fishermen can't write the fish quotas in such a way that allows them to keep depleting the commons (specifically, an open bid auction is harder for lobbyists to subvert -- I suspect that the current plan being touted was written by lobbyists and, consequently, won't stem the tragedy -- just window dressing, devil in the details, etc, etc).
Timothy|9.28.05 @ 10:47AM|#
Since they tell me I can't sell no stripers, and there's no luck in swordfishin' here.
Shannon Love|9.28.05 @ 11:02AM|#
" Before market-based programs are adopted, scientific models that estimate fish stocks, must become more accurate, Ms. Didriksen said"
It is interesting how the ability to convert a resource into private property is dependent on our ability to measure that resource. Private ownership of land depends heavily on accurate surveying for example.
Privatization plans like carbon emissions trading will fail if we don't have a good idea of what the extent of the resource is. In the case of carbon it is not the amount of CO2 in atmosphere but the environment's capability to bind that CO2 and remove it from the atmosphere.
Creative Ideas dep't|9.28.05 @ 11:30AM|#
It is interesting how the ability to convert a resource into private property is dependent on our ability to measure that resource.
Which is why the patent system has a hard time. How do you measure genius?
Akira MacKenzie|9.28.05 @ 11:44AM|#
Which is why the patent system has a hard time. How do you measure genius?
I don't know. If I looked through the U.S. Patent Office, how many patents will I find for time machines and free energy generators?
|9.28.05 @ 1:44PM|#
Which is why the patent system has a hard time. How do you measure genius?
Once implemented, does the proposed design/invention/whathaveyou actually solve whatever problem it was designed to overcome?
Even that would be nothing more than a rough guideline.
|9.28.05 @ 1:45PM|#
Oh, and Ron, interesting article, I'd have never thought of solving the problem of overfishing in such a way.
And once again, Shannon posts some thought provoking stuff, too.
Aw, heck, medals all 'round!
drf|9.28.05 @ 2:03PM|#
Timothy:
for putting that song in my head, i hereby damn you to spending 69 days working backstage on the Two Harbor's (MN) light opera touring company's production of "Carousel" where their gimmick is everybody is on a tricycle.
and wraped in clingwrap with no-fat mayo.
Timothy|9.28.05 @ 2:43PM|#
DRF: wouldn't be so bad except for the mayo. Can't stand the stuff. Also, I wouldn't want to be in clingwrap in MN, unless it was winter.
|9.28.05 @ 5:46PM|#
Ron, thanks for a good article. I might make my ecology students read it, or at least make them aware of it.
|9.28.05 @ 6:56PM|#
This thought isn't original to me, and I'm not even sure I fully agree with it, but I'll throw it out:
How come we still get food from the sea by this archaic hunter-gather method?
Isn't it time we fully implemented the Paleolithic agricultural revolution and did some aquaculture?
|9.28.05 @ 10:02PM|#
Apologies, my mistake -- the Agricultural Revolution was Neolithic, not Paleolithic.
(I couldn't let that error stand, lest it someday tarnish my legacy.)