Julian Sanchez | August 31, 2005
Apparently, the multifarious Wars on Terror, Drugs, Organized Crime, and Littering are all going so very, very well that the Department of Justice sees nothing amiss with making porn—that's plain ol' consenting-adults porn—its top enforcement priority. In a rare display of sanity, other law enforcement officials are showing some reluctance to fall in line:
Acosta, a Miami native who formerly held a high-level position in the Justice Department, is having a hard time persuading other law enforcement officials in South Florida, including his own assistant U.S. attorneys, to join the anti-porn crusade.
Sources say Acosta was told by the FBI officials during last month's meeting that obscenity prosecution would have to be handled by the crimes against children unit. But that unit is already overworked and would have to take agents off cases of child endangerment to work on adult porn cases. Acosta replied that this was Attorney General Gonzales' mandate.
Acosta's meetings with other law enforcement agencies also were not particularly fruitful, sources said.
Bonus I-just-threw-up-in-my-mouth-a-little moment: A flak from some family values groups trots out the "for the children" argument, despite the fact that this will mean fewer agents to track down actual child molesters.
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Julian, don't you know that a child molester only victimizes one child at time while a photograph of two consenting adults having sex uploaded to the internet can victimize tens of thousands of people at once? Get your priorities straight man!
First of all, a DEA official named "Acosta" is pretty funny. I'm
certain his pals Molesto and Larcenia agree.
Secondly, I need to ask again: If porn is a "billion dollar
industry," where is its PAC?
Perhaps they misunderstand the phrase "greasing palms."
I really think that most (if not all) of these anti-sex prudes have some pretty deep perversions hidden within. They are unconsciously very angry at themselves and deal with it by lashing out at the outside world. There is very little logic in this way of thinking.
If porn is a "billion dollar industry," where is its
PAC?
I recall reading several years ago in the LA Times that they'd sent
somebody to Sacramento to lobby.
But, honestly, a PAC would do them more harm than good. As soon as
they endorsed a candidate that person's defeat would be
assured....oh, I see!
Perhaps they misunderstand the phrase "greasing
palms."
Sargeant Prostitua doesn't get involved in that kind of
kinkiness.
"But, honestly, a PAC would do them more harm than good. As soon
as they endorsed a candidate that person's defeat would be
assured"
While I doubt that it could actually collect much funding, a
"negative" PAC strikes me as a clever idea in principle,
particularly for influencing primaries.
A porn PAC would certainly have some, um, persuasive forms of showing support, no?
"A porn PAC"
They are the first people I'm inviting to my fundraising
luncheons...
Mr. Nice Guy--
I think the problem in their heads is twofold: one, a belief that
sexual desire (as opposed to sexual activity) is
inherently sinful; and two, a belief that I (meaning the
anti-porn person) am basically sin-free. Therefore, anything which
makes me feel sexual desire MUST be evil, because you know
I'd never have any impure thoughts if left to my own devices!
Scratch beneath the surface of their rationalizations, and people
like Acosta aren't any different from the Arabs who will, in the
name of protecting women's "purity," pour acid in the face of any
woman who shows hers in public. Had Acosta been born and raised in
Iraq rather than the USA, he'd be one of the bastards trolling the
streets of Baghdad this minute attacking non-burka'd women.
In all seriousness, porn is often mistakenly tied to a number of
crimes, has some less-than-noble skeletons in its closet, is the
target of lots of blanket legislation, and has lots of money.
Every other industry that fits those four criteria has a PAC.
Jennifer,
I agree with your analysis of the thought process of the
puritanical zealot. I also think they want to deprive others from
access to porn because they don't want other folks having sexual
desires and sexual pleasures if they can't.
The same applies to the war on drugs. Puritans do not want to allow
others from escaping from reality or enjoying the pleasures of
chemistry. They feel that they have to spend each waking moment
with their face in their daily muck, so they will be damned if
anyone else should be allowed to escape this same fate.
I'm sure glad they're taking agents out of the crimes against children unit. Anyone know some good child porn sites? I've always been curious.
The porn industy's PAC is called the Free Speech Coalition. They
have a graphic of a bunch of porn chicks re-enacting the raising of
the flag at Iwo Jima. I kid you not.
John Ashcroft made obscenity prosecutions such a high priority in
2001 that FBI agents were actually taken off of other beats,
including anti-terror, to free up manpower. Oooops.
Anybody happen to see the King of the Hill episode that aired
the other night? About the campaign by Peggy Hill and two other
neighborhood women to save the school's canceled after-school
program? Which quickly degenerated into a nasty internecine brawl
for political control of the school board?
Catchphrase: "IT'S FOR THE FREAKING CHILDREN!"
Joe: kinda makes you wish ashcroft actually beat the dead
guy......
Stevo: (re: freudian dreams). Maybe that is the show you should
stop watching before nighty-night and not Hogan's Heroes.....
hmmmmmmm.
Crushinator: you're just saying that because yer paw wouldn't let
you go out with Bender.:)
John Ashcroft made obscenity prosecutions such a high
priority in 2001 that FBI agents were actually taken off of other
beats, including anti-terror, to free up manpower.
Oooops.
But that's not the really bad part, Joe.
The really bad part is that he kept porn such a
high priority when the WTC was a pile of rubble.
Jennifer:
I think these assholes would portend that BOTH sexual desire and
activity are sinful. The one exception for the latter is between a
MARRIED man and woman, lights out, missionary position, and soley
for the intention of having children.
Fundie sex must be amazing. In total darkness, the wife pulls up
her housedress and grunts "get it over with". God forbid that she
make any other kind of motion or utterance.
Man, that makes me hot.
And, Mr Guy:
you could chant about walking through the valley of death. or,
here, the canyon of life????????
YODELLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Nice Guy's description of fundy sex makes me think there is
a market for orgasm inhibitors. Fundys could take it so that they
won't feel the pleasure when they engage in the disgusting, sinful
act. They can feed it to their kids so that they won't ever commit
Onanism or disgustingly, sinfully fornicate with their
boy/girlfriend. They can export it to the fundy Muslims and fundy
Jews who are as disgusted by sexual pleasure as they are. Are fundy
Hindus and Buddhists sexual freaks too? If so, it's a world-wide
market. 'Cept maybe Thailand.
Ooo, and they can feed it to those bonobos that are always sticking
any available member in any available orrifice. 'Cause God knows,
sex-for-pleasure is wrong in the animal kingdom too. At the very
least, they are bad examples for our impressionable children.
Yes sir, there is gold in them thar orgasm inhibitors. Anyone want
to help me out with venture capital?
Fundie sex must be amazing. In total darkness, the wife
pulls up her housedress and grunts "get it over with". God forbid
that she make any other kind of motion or utterance.
For the record, most evangelical / fundamentalist couples I know of
have a healthy sex life, and admit to liking sex. Although I'm sure
there are people out there who still hold to the idea that sexual
activity of any sort is sinful, most today would say that only
extramarital activity of any sort is sinful. Sex inside of marriage
is good, and not at all sinful. The radical ones think that
premarital sex is better than getting married just to have sex, and
that people who "live in sin" are effectively married (at least in
God's eyes), so that sex in those relationships isn't sinful.
The anti-porn crusades come out of a deep-seated belief that porn
cheapens sex, and threatens the relationship between husband and
wife, so it's wrong to make and distribute. It's not necessarily
that they're puritanical (though there are plenty of those sorts,
too); it's that they have very, very different ideas about the role
of sex in society. Give them the credit they're due - wrong they
may be, but they're not evil.
I'm having a brainstorm. I'm going to start a fundamentalist
porn site that has totally black pictures of darkened bedrooms.
I'll also have audio clips where you MIGHT hear a bedsheet ruffle
or a mattress creak.
I'll be interviewing any interested girls. They must be of pure
body, mind, and soul. And also have big..um, eyes..
"The really bad part is that he kept porn such a high priority
when the WTC was a pile of rubble."
Yes, but the 9/11 attacks only killed about 3000 people, while
pornography spiritually kills millions each year!
"They must be of pure body, mind, and soul. And also have
big..um, eyes.."
does their vision improve when they get cold????
incorporate the Original Whizinator (r) with your idea, and I know
a fellow who could get some funding for the fundies.
grylliade:
Points well taken, but they are indeed "evil" when they seek to
impose their puritanical beliefs on anyone besides
themselves.
That includes whining to the government to ban any consensual
behavior between adults.
"does their vision improve when they get cold????"
I think you got the points :)
"But that's not the really bad part, Joe.
The really bad part is that he kept porn such a high priority when
the WTC was a pile of rubble."
I don't know about that. IIRC, the investigations were dropped and
there weren't any obscenity cases brought by the Justice
Deptartment for years after 9/11. No?
Are fundy Hindus and Buddhists sexual freaks too? If so,
it's a world-wide market.
Nope. Fundie Hindus are actually the folk who brought you the Kama
Sutra. And Buddhists? Well, they just don't care about anything now
do they? But, that'll be a good thing; God's Chosen pack of wild
Fundabeasts will be able to overrun them that much easier. I mean,
without sex to preoccupy people, they have to resort to war, don't
they?
I actually have a Victorian How-To guide to for new brides that
advises them to "close their eyes and think of the Queen" while
their husband is doing his dirty, sinful business. I like to think
that it was written by crypto-lesbians who were trying to soften
society up for their planned gynocracy. It's much less depressing
that way.
Shem: You mean the same queen who didn't believe there could be such a thing as lesbianism?
In light of certain scientific advancements in the last three or
four decades, you'd think that the fundies would completely forgo
creating children the old-fashioned way, and simply resort to
invitro fertilization.
Perhaps they could extract the man's godly seed with a
syringe.
See? No pleasure, a pinch of pain, and ten times the piety. Jesus
would, I'm sure, turn a cartwheel.
Yes sir, there is gold in them thar orgasm inhibitors.
Anyone want to help me out with venture capital?
See Vonnegut's Welcome to the Monkey House.
IIRC, the investigations were dropped and there weren't any
obscenity cases brought by the Justice Deptartment for years after
9/11. No?
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5022/LEGAL/pornography/
indicates indictments brought in 2002 by the DoJ. But I do
find references to Ashcroft pursuing far fewer obscenity
prosecutions than either Reno or Gonzales.
Do you guys have a problem with people who assume that anyone
who wants drugs legalized just wants to get high?
If so, why are you assuming the worst about those you disagree with
on this issue?
It's not necessarily that they're puritanical (though there
are plenty of those sorts, too); it's that they have very, very
different ideas about the role of sex in society. Give them the
credit they're due ? wrong they may be, but they're not
evil.
It is also worth noting that the major feminist groups are also
vehemently anti-porn, anti-prostitution, and generally
anti-adult-entertainment. Which is why the Democrats are also
anti-porn, although of course not as much so as the
Republicans.
What I'm missing is this: What is there to prosecute?
Porn featuring consenting adults is still legal. Are they chasing
down 7-11 Clerks who don't card as well for titty-mags as they do
for tobacco? Teens browsing google-image-search for thumbnails of
nudie pics? Who would be the butt-end of this prosecution?
What Law Is Being Broken?
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