Nick Gillespie | May 20, 2005
Over at Ragged Thots, NY Postman Robert George beholds Congress pumping ire at steroids and turns away like Lou Ferrgino on a bad day:
Want a double-standard? Consider this: DeLay is strongly critical of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy for using international law as a guideline in several court cases. Yet, the law House Government Reform Committee Chairman Tom Davis says could be introduced as early as next week would conceivably overrule any negotiated labor agreements by an American sports league and their players -- in favor of an international standard.
And after going for sports leagues, what's to stop Congress from determining that the "marketplace" is taking "too long" in other industries as well?
Lock up your kids, ladies and gentlemen. This is not a pretty sight. This is your government on steroids.
Whole thing here.
Reason's own Matt Welch has a thing for steroids. Or maybe just jockstraps. Figurative jockstraps.
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Let me repeat the comment I made in the "China Envy" thread--this is the first step toward the government-mandated drug testing of ALL employees. Just you wait.
Professional athletics represent the US, so they must be Drug
Free. Amateur atheletes aspire to be pros, so they must be Drug
Free. Olymic amateurs (they are amateurs, for this argument) must
be Drug Free. Therefore, all sports competitors must be Drug Free,
including amateur baseball, softball, flag football, tennis,
bicycling, ice-speed skating, competetive horse-riding, dog sports,
...
Next, in order to set the proper example, anyone involved must be
tested.
The suppliers of sports equipment must be tested. Therefore, Dick's
Sporting Goods must certify all their employees are Drug Free (for
the good of the US, of course).
So, if Dick's employees are Drug Free, why not employees of
McDonalds? IBM?
I'm with Jennifer. This is the first step.
Amen, Jennifer.
And while we're at it...let me repeat the comment I made on the
"Banners's Red Glare" thread - let's hear it for those small
government, fiscally responsible alternatives to nanny state, tax
& spend liberals.
To everyone who's rubbed mine and other people's noses in the
"conservatives are better than liberals" crap for the past 25
years...screw you.
It's not a contract with America anymore...it's a contract
on America.
First, you trusted politicians. That was smart.
You believed them when they mopped the floor with liberals and let
them twist every issue - no matter how complicated - into a
"liberals bad/conservatives" good pigeon hole. Real keen of you
folks.
You trusted that just because they quoted the Bible, they were
acting out of sincere Christian values. Hah!
You actually believed that they were sincere when they proclaimed
smaller government and less government intrusion - despite the fact
that it obviously didn't jibe with their agenda of more
governmment intrusion on any issue they declared to be a "moral"
one.
You let 'em take over...and take over they have.
They're no better and possibly a damn site worse.
Goodby liberal nanny state. Hello conservative nanny police.
Once, just once, I want the CEO of a big corporation or someone
else called before congress to bow down and kiss their feet to tell
them to f**k off (Galloway doesn't count). Unfortunately this will
never happen because such people have way more to lose than any
such temper tantrum might get them.
It would have been nice to see David Stern yesterday to say
something like, "Senator, are you sure you want to test your
popularity against Lebron James and Shaquille O'Neal?"
What did I do?
I tend to agree with Jennifer, too. The true slippery slope is a
law that gov't can expand on.
Are there any words scarier to a libertarian than "Bi-partisan
coalition".
Lets put DeLay and Bill Romanowski in a locked room together and
let them hatch it out.
I hear Romos powers of persuasion are incredible
If these jerks were around back in the day, they would have made aspirin illegal.
Some people have called me a paranoid chicken little to assume
this might lead to universal drug-testing, so I want to say here
what has me so worried about this:
The first drug tests were mandated for people like airline pilots
or nuclear plant operators. There was no evidence that ANY
accidents have been caused by pilots or nuke operators who were too
stoned to do their jobs, but still, there was at least a semi-valid
public-safety argument to be made for these tests.
Then they said all Federal employees, or employees of companies
with Federal contracts, had to be tested. Bad, but you could make
the argument that if the Feds are the employers, they can set
whatever conditions for employment that they'd like.
But athletes? There's no possible public-safety argument to be
made, and these guys are NOT working for the government. This is
just mission-creep, pure and simple.
"There's no possible public-safety argument to be made"
Didn't you hear, Jen? It's for the children.
Stretch-
As a former high-school teacher, let me assure you that the
children have FAR better drugs than you or I can ever hope to find.
Nothing sucks quite like being a teacher, looking for a new
connection, and knowing damn well that there's about nine pounds of
primo Canadian bud within fifty feet of you, but you can't get any
because you're not stupid enough to make a teenaged student your
connection.
Hypothetically speaking, of course. My personal behavior has
already been above reproach.
Two points:
The foreign precedent argument is way off base, because this is a
US law being debated. It's perfectly reasonable to import ideas
from elsewhere and then pass them into US law. This just happens to
be a really bad idea.
The Federal employee argument for testing might actually apply to
athletes, because they all work in government-subsidized
facilities, at least for road games. The government therefore has
an interest in what happens in those buildings. Sure, it's usually
a local government, but the Feds are just helping out with the
interstate aspect of it.
See how easy it is to justify government intervention?
Great, Bubba. So now they can test me because I use government-subsidized roads to get to work. Christ. Don't give them any ideas.
Last night, in front of a group of impressionable 19 year-olds,
I delivered a lecture on optics while high on the
performance-enhancing drug known as caffeine.
I even told them that I was enjoying a nice rush from a stimulant
grown by Colombian farmers.
I feel so irresponsible. They should be able to learn about ray
tracing, zoom lenses, and depth of field from somebody who's
drug-free.
So, playing catch in the back yard with the 11 yr old can be
conceived as amatuer sports, since he might end up as a
professional.
And since I have a part in this activity, I could possibly be
considered an athlete.
Must be time to pee in a cup.
Jennifer--
You just bust the kid, and say, "I'll let you off this time, but
I'm going to have to confiscate these buds." Hypothetically
speaking, of course.
Chuck--
Hypothetically speaking, I DREAMED of the day I could do such a
thing, but no luck. The kids who were busted at my school were
busted by authority figures who actually went through their pockets
or backpacks or such; I never did that because I don't have quite
enough Gestapo in me.
free form, you are clearly an addict. You need Professional
Help. We should both go join a rehab program.
I mean, really, impressionable 19 year-olds should not be learning
about geometrical optics from drug addicts. Faculty members are
respected role models (well, I hope I am!) and I'm setting a bad
example with my addiction.
Remember: Freedom is drug-free! Or that's what my nephew's homework
assignment said.
Freedoom would be chocolate-free if the government jailed you for possession of a Hershey bar. Christ. I forgot how much I hated the political bullshit of public schools.
Freedoom? Don't let Walters hear that one. I can see a whole new ONDCP ad campaign coming...
Jennifer-
If the War on Fat keeps escalating then it's only a matter of time
before my nephews and nieces have to color signs that say "Freedom
is Fat Free!"
Thoreau-
God forbid. Then the Andrea-Dworkin-type feminists would point to
statistics showing that the average healthy man has less body fat
than the average healthy woman as proof of a worldwide misogynist
plot.
Jennifer-
I'm waiting for the feminists to argue that our "War on Fat" is
encouraging anorexia among young women. Interestingly, I seem to
recall hearing a "Fat Warrior" criticize feminists for putting so
much emphasis on anorexia for so many years. The argue was that
feminists concerned about anorexia were encouraging people to
disregard the (literally) growing danger of obesity. There was also
a class warfare angle: Obesity is (supposedly) more of a problem
among lower-income women, while anorexia is (supposedly) more of a
problem among young women from upper-income families. (I say
"supposedly" because I haven't examined the numbers myself, and I
know when to put my disclaimers in on this forum.)
I'm sure the "War on Fat" will yield plenty more dilemmas for
liberals as it continues. And if the War on Drugs is any indicator,
liberals will simply ignore those dilemmas and contradictions and
push ahead with the "War" for the sake of The Children. Just as
they cheer for the drug war despite the way it disproportionately
affects young black men.
Isn't it getting near our turn to announce the next "war"? I propose a War on Phony Emergencies. They're reaching crisis proportions in America.
Thoreau-
Well, the feminists have long been arguing that society's obsession
with the beauty of thinness leads to anorexia, and so far as that
goes I suppose they're right; most people, especially young ones,
like to be considered attractive and will try to do so. Is this a
misogynist conspiracy, or just life? If this were a parallel
universe exactly like ours except that FAT was considered
attractive, I'm sure the anorexics would instead be horking down
multiple cartons of Ben and Jerry's each day and then clamping
their mouths shut to avoid throwing up, and then the type of
feminist that gives feminists like me a bad name would gripe about
how society's obsession with an unrealistically fat standard of
beauty was making these women eat themselves to death.
And Parallel Universe Terri Schiavo didn't kill her conscious self
through bulimia, but via super-brain-freeze induced by fifty pounds
of Haagen-Daaz. Meanwhile, Parallel Jennifer is still skinny but
now the guys DON'T think it's cute, and instead make cruel jokes
like "I heard her ass is so skinny it doesn't even have its own
Congressman."
Holy shit. Sounds like the government just lost another small
battle in its war on me taking drugs.
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