Nick Gillespie | March 21, 2005
Drudge reports that Playgirl Editor Michele Zipp has gotten bounced for outing herself as a Bush voter. He repros her email:
"Hello Drudge,
"After your coverage of my article about coming out and voting Republican, I did receive many letters of support from fellow Republican voters, but it was not without repercussions. Criticism from the liberal left ensued. A few days after the onslaught of liberal backlash, I was released from my duties at Playgirl magazine.
"After underlings expressed their disinterest of working for an outed Republican editor, I have a strong suspicion that my position was no longer valued by Playgirl executives. I also received a phone call from a leading official from Playgirl magazine, in which he stated with a laugh, "I wouldn't have hired you if I knew you were a Republican.
"I just wanted to let you know of the fear the liberal left has about a woman with power possessing Republican views."
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"I just wanted to let you know of the fear the liberal left has
about a woman with power possessing Republican views."
When I think "power," I think "Playgirl Magazine."
Um, not like that. You know what I mean. Right guys?
Guys?
"I just wanted to let you know of the fear the liberal left has
about a woman with power possessing Republican
views."
To echo joe's sentiment, being an editor for Playgirl is a sign of
power? Methinks Michele needs to lay off the Mai Tais.
Now this is a damn shame! The very idea! Firing one for voting republican! My question is how and why did a republican go to work for such a liberal rag? Sounds like a watergate deal to me. Must have been a spy--
Maybe the Log Cabin Republicans can stage a protest outside whatever strip mall Playgirl's main office is located in.
...of the fear the liberal left has about a woman with power possessing Republican views.
have fears about a woman with power; .
they already got enough built in.
guess the editors were protecting their interest, no repuritians
read playgirl; right?
they do have a tendency to let their beleifs creep into all sorts
of areas, of course with unintended circumstances.
Maybe she got fired for delusions of grandeur. Either that or her readers, gay men, weren�t happy about her gloating about her support for a president that is opposed to their lifestyle issues. Of course, she thinks her readers are primarily women, IIRC from the last post on Zipp, so I�m leaning towards her being fired for being delusional.
It's going to take a bit more to persuade me she was fired for her political views. Of course Drudge is going to play up that possibility, but there's just a good a chance she got fired for the myriad of reasons people in her biz get fired.
What a bad political move for lefties. If it is okay to fire someone for their political views, shouldn't it be okay to fire someone for their race, gender, religion, etc.? What a bunch of hypocrites!
dame,
True enough. It's not like she got fired from The Nation
or salon.com. Playgirl is probably on the same prestigious
tier of magazines as National Lampoon and
Cracked.
My guess is that Zipp could probably see the writing on the wall
and complained to the first person who would be politically
sympathetic and willing to publish her lame excuses on what went
down and why, no questions asked. That would be Drudge, of course,
where no crackpot right-winger need fear the withering glare of
journalistic scrutiny.
Besides, what does it matter? Don't we all agree that an employer should be able to hire and fire for whatever reason they choose? Me, I'd never hire anyone who eats eggplant. It shows poor judgement and weak critical-thinking skills.
I really, really hope Congress steps forward to investigate this outrage with 24/7 coverage on C-SPAN. We need to get to the bottom of this as a community etc.
Frankly, an editor who so flagrantly misuses "disinterest" deserves walking papers, whatever her politics.
I'll bet The Real Bill was right there on the front lines, too,
when a woman who supported John Kerry was fired from her job last
year.
He wasn't? Well, maybe he was somewhere in the back.
How could someone who claims to be republican whine about an employer getting to hire/fire over "values" issues? How much sympathy is she hoping to garner from the group who'd just as gladly have put the whole operation out of business?
"How could someone who claims to be republican whine about an
employer getting to hire/fire over "values" issues? How much
sympathy is she hoping to garner from the group who'd just as
gladly have put the whole operation out of business?"
Believe it or not, the Fundies of whom you speak are a relatively
small portion of the GOP. Most Republicans have no desire to "put
the whole... bla blabla" She obviously differs on the party on a
few issues, but that doesn't mean that she shouldn't be able to say
she's a "Bush lover". And while Playgirl should be able to
fire/hire who they want, that doesn't mean they should do so on a
basis such as this.
Ironic... didn't I just read that Bush helped sell
magazines?!?
You're confused. Bush helped sell Playboy
magazines. Until they started airbrushing it all away.
"After underlings expressed their disinterest
of working for an outed Republican
editor..."
Er, "disinterest of?" Not "in?" I'm beginning to suspect there's
more to this um, editor's, firing than just politics.
"Zipp Stripped at Playgirl; Female Nudie Mag No Place for a Bush
Lover"
do you know if the post is hiring, gillespie?
From what I'm told, she wasn't fired for being a Republican. She was fired for damn near running the magazine into the ground (ad rates plummeting, # of ad pages also in the basement, repeated battles with upper management over the direction of the magazine, etc., etc., etc.). But like a failed Republican pundit, she went out the door whining about the damn liberal media that paid her salary for years.
I think Zipp needs to take the world's smallest political
quiz:
http://lp.org/quiz/
to see how much she actually has in common with these Republicans
with whom she so eagerly identifies.
The one and only time I saw a Playgirl magazine, it featured naked dudes cooking breakfast and working on cars. It's a pity how the audience for such a publication could suffer this way.
Me, I'd never hire anyone who eats eggplant. It shows poor
judgement and weak critical-thinking skills.
Bastard! Eggplant is fine once in a while, as long as it doesn't
have that strong, bitter taste to it. Soaking it in saltwater
helps. And I think Japanese eggplant is rather mild.
What say the rest of you guys? Are you tolerant and sophisticated
pro-egglanters -- or shambling anti-eggplant Neanderthals?
(Just trying to start a flamewar with a topic I've never seen
before.)
I forgot to add an ad hominem:
JCM: Me, I'd never hire anyone who eats eggplant. It shows poor
judgement and weak critical-thinking skills.
You, sir, are obviously a bigot. :)
andy,
I'm not sure I believe that, but I at least acknowledge the
possibility. Yet even if it's true, that minority seems to have a
pretty good grip on the party's direction and policy.
Just for kicks I decided to see if I could find anything about this
in the official Republican party platform, so I Googled it. Lo and
behold:
http://www.gop.com/media/2004platform.pdf
(page 83)
The Republican Party Shares the position of the United States
Supreme Court in Miller v California...that obscene material is
"unprotected by the first amendment"...We therefore support
vigorous prosection of obscene material by the U.S. Department of
Justice."
Now I realize that that doesn't equate DIRECTLY to "we would shut
down Playgirl if we could", but I'd call it more than a gentle
leaning in that direction.
The very next section of that document being, of course, the part that calls for a constitutional amendment to "protect" marriage...
Are you tolerant and sophisticated pro-eggplanters -- or
shambling anti-eggplant Neanderthals?
Forgive me, Stevo, but I refuse to discuss the subject with someone
who does not call the plant aubergine.
"Eggplant lover" and "philo-auberginite" are just genteel
euphemisms for the eggplantite "soft" racsim of
anti-neanderthalism, anti-jersey-cornism and anti-jerseyism in
general.
Damn your eyes, gentlemen, all of you!
Neue Jersey uber alles!
QFMC cos. V
I call BULLS**T on this one!
This chick knew she was going to get canned, ran to drudge to go on
about her loving bush ;), and now is playing the victim part by
saying it was all the fault of being a persecuted republican. What
a load!
She should enjoy her speaking fees from Prestige Speakers by
railing about those crazy liberals. I'm sure the ink is drying on
her contract now...
I can believe that it's bullshit, but again I have to ask - is the target audience for consuming "railing about crazy liberals" going to want to hear it from ex-editor of a pornography magazine? I just can't see that. If that's the last-minute leverage she was trying to obtain, it doesn't sound like a very good strategy. Now claiming that she used to be a Republican until they screwed her over and turning coat to rail to the liberals about them being right all along - that I can see.
Hey SPD,
Really? What's your fucking point? Fire or hire anyone you please
for any reason. I'm not defending her. I think the right of free
association should be absolute.
Real Bill,
My point is that she's using her political background as insurance.
You jumped right to the conclusion that things actually happened
the way she said they did.
Do you really think she was fired because she was a Republican?
Could it be that she wasn't a good editor?
Do you really think she was fired because she was a
Republican? Could it be that she wasn't a good editor?
Who knows? Does anyone here actually read Playgirl? I
mean, I could ask one of my gay friends, but he isn't reading the
articles, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
The idea of pictures of naked dudes doing housework does crack me up, though. I suppose that would count as a woman's ultimate fantasy!
I suppose that would count as a woman's ultimate
fantasy!
I think the ultimate fantasy is more like a hyper romatic rich dude
who wields lots of power.
She was not fired for outing herself as a Republican, although she really said some stupid shit. She was fired because she decided to overhaul Playgirl and to hell with all the readers. She tried to make it a Sex and the City magazine that had lots and lots of recipes and a travel section and very little frontal nudity, saying women don't want that anymore. Women are not the only audience. The January issue of Playgirl was a disaster and full of copy and the outcry was big. Slowly, the magazine did the full frontals again and I'll bet her brilliant overhaul almost killed the magazine.
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