Jesse Walker | January 10, 2005
Sheldon Richman remembers the late Rosemary Kennedy, a mildly retarded woman who was lobotomized for fear that she might hurt her brother's political career.
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Does anyone have a link to a book or other source material to back up these claims? I do not doubt that it happened but it seems so monstrous as to be unbelieveable.
Just do a few searched for it. It's pretty well-known by
now.
I could have sworn that I read that her symptoms of retardation
weren't all that bad either. She most likely would have/could have
lived a full life.
Joe was afraid she'd have sex and desecrate the family with a
retarded child, so he stuck her in a nunnery. When she started
busting out to live again, he had the docs do her in. Joe was a
real peach, that's for sure.
What a bizarre family. Especially to be considered by some to be
the first family of the country.
Rosemary's father was told by doctors that the lobotomy
would eliminate her erratic behavior...She spent the rest of her
life in institutions.
Just like her brother Ted.
But that joke has no relevance Mike, because the Bush family
does not have a history of arguably criminal treatment of women
followed by quick under the rug cover-ups.
Did you hear Kennedy questioning Gonzales about "water
boarding?"
But that joke has no relevance Mike, because the Bush family
does not have a history of arguably criminal treatment of women
followed by quick under the rug cover-ups.
True. Their criminal treatment of women -- in the guise of
"healthcare" policies -- has never needed a coverup.
And there's Neil. And oh yeah, 41 had that little accident when he was vp too... not relevant!
Did you hear Kennedy questioning Gonzales about "water
boarding?"
I did. What an incredibly juicy opportunity that was for a retort,
but alas...
Call me snake,
Margie Schoedinger, a 38-yr-old woman who filed a sexual assault
lawsuit against Bush, was found dead of suicide by gunshot to the
head in September 2003, according to a Houston Chronicle
obit.
And yes, I also have serious doubts about the alleged "suicide" of
Vince Foster.
BTW,
How come no Simpsons episode has given given Mayor Quimby an
institutionalized sister with a lobotomy?
BTW,
How come no Simpsons episode has given given Mayor Quimby an
institutionalized sister with a lobotomy?
It's possible there are some lines that even they won't
cross.
While I would love the shot at the Kennedy clan in general, it's
not fair to go that route. Rosemary was innocent in all of
this.
I'd love to see an episode where Quimby drives his car off of the
only bridge out of town.
What kind of blind ambition could have could have led Joe Kennedy to do that to his own child? Also, I wonder if it was easier for him because it was a daughter, not a son. What ever, I think that the man was one sick f***.
Being lobotomized, sterilized, etc., involuntarily (often at the order of the state or a family member) was all part of the great "progressive" project to "improve" our society. We're still suffering from the ideas of these "progressives."
See what happens when you remove the whiskey from an Irish family? Chaos and deviltry!!!!
Being lobotomized, sterilized, etc., involuntarily (often at
the order of the state or a family member) was all part of the
great "progressive" project to "improve" our society. We're still
suffering from the ideas of these "progressives."
Yeah, uncle Joe was the first to try to the lobotomy thing to
improve his family.
Ah, Joe Kennedy, rum runner, irish mobster, and lobotomizer (is
that a word?). What a legacy. Also interesting that none of this
ever was revealed until decades after the Kennedy brothers were
shot. It would be nice if there was a theological place of eternal
punishment......
"Being lobotomized, sterilized, etc., involuntarily (often at the
order of the state or a family member) was all part of the great
"progressive" project to "improve" our society." True enough, but
my great grandfather never had Aunt Emily lobotomized..........
Lobotomization was considered a progressive treatment in the
1930's-50's for several mental conditions, to the point that they
were routinely prescribed for ailments that couldn't be affected by
the treatment.
I honestly can't blame Old Joe for doing what so many doctors
thought was sound neurological procedure in his day. Before you
pass judgment, check your family trees everyone: everyone here
likely has an older relative who was traumatized for being
"different"; for example, my uncle in his 50's was considered
mentally deficient because he was left-handed and the nuns would
punish him for not using his right. True story.
I checked my family tree but apparently most of my relatives got drunk and fell out of it.
Take a look at
this article. The excerpts from her diaries show that whatever
"retardation" Rosemary Kennedy had was relatively mild.
The CNN obituary states that Joe Kennedy had her lobotomized
because he was "worried that his daughter's mild condition would
lead her into situations that could damage the family's
reputation." He also didn't consult with his wife before ordering
the procedure on his adult daughter.
"Old Man Joe" committed a monstrous act. Slapping people for being
left-handed isn't in the same league with crippling their
brains.
I'm stunned - I can't believe there are so many people, in this
day & age, that didn't know about this incident... And worse,
who would actually minimize it!
A frontal lobotomy is a hairline away from brain dead. It kills
higher brain functions, so obviously it was NEVER seen as a cure or
treatment for mental retardation.
And anyone who thinks it's a trifle should watch the biographical
movie about Francis Farmer. And imagine yourself in that position.
Because if it happened to her... She was not even mentally ill at
all in any way!
And why is this so unbelievable anyway? In a world where people
endure atrocities for war century after century, where women drown
their babies, where parents starve their children, where men
abduct, torture, kill, and then have sex with and eat the
corpses.
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