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Cathy Young makes a surreality-based assessment of the parties.

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|11.16.04 @ 8:28PM|

"Many also persist in the belief that Iraq had substantial ties to the Al Qaeda."

That's a bit of an understatement. A majority answered Yes when asked whether Saddam Hussein was "personally involved in the attacks on September 11."

You have to spin pretty hard to consider this the equivalent of believing that most "Palm Beach Jews for Buchanon" intended to vote for Gore.

This phony "curse on both your houses" thing is getting really tedious.

|11.16.04 @ 8:36PM|

You have to spin pretty hard to consider this the equivalent of believing that most "Palm Beach Jews for Buchanon" intended to vote for Gore.

The usual counter to the Democratic "Jews for Buchanan" whine isn't "they meant to vote for him". It's "why is it your inability to follow simple instructions *our* problem?".

This phony "curse on both your houses" thing is getting really tedious.

You're still whining about the 2000 election four years after the fact -- you should be the last person to talk about tedium. They should lock you losers in a room with the "Vince Foster was assassinated" crowd for the next four years.

|11.16.04 @ 8:49PM|

Dan,

I don't think the confusing ballot is a reason to overturn the results.

It does, however, clearly demonstrate that a majority of Florida voters chose Gore over Bush. Bush became president only because the electoral machinery failed.

And I didn't raise the issue. I just called attention to an incorrect statement in Young's article.

|11.16.04 @ 9:47PM|

"This phony "curse on both your houses" thing is getting really tedious."

I have the vague impression that the number of unaffiliated voters has been growing. If that's true, might it suggest that the curse on "both your houses" is a trend?

|11.16.04 @ 10:46PM|

joe-

OK, let's say for the sake of argument that the GOP deserves more criticism than the Dems in the case at hand. Consider the audience at Reason. If she says "A pox on the GOP first and foremost" nobody here will take her seriously. By casting blame equally on both houses people are at least willing to contemplate the possibility that something is rotten in the state of the Republican Party.

|11.17.04 @ 3:43PM|

It does, however, clearly demonstrate that a majority of Florida voters chose Gore over Bush

Bush got more votes. The only was to "clearly demonstrate" that a majority of voters chose someone other than Bush would be to prove that at least several hundred more voters accidentally chose Bush than accidentally chose Gore over the entire state of Florida. That is, of course, impossible, and demonstrating that Bush probably benefitted more from voter stupidity than Gore did in one part of the state doesn't tell us anything.

So I'm afraid all you've "clearly demostrated" here is that you parrot DNC talking points without thinking about them first -- and quite frankly we knew that already, so this has just been a waste of our time.

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