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fyodor|9.28.04 @ 1:30PM|#
Dougherty leaves out the rumor that Wilson gave up on Smile because Sgt. Pepper disheartened him into thinking he would never match it. FWIW, I remember hearing an interview with Wilson years ago in which he said he abandoned a song called Fire from those sessions when a nearby building burned down, leading him to fear what "vibes" he was putting out. I think he destroyed all tapes of that song.
Question: I'm a little confused from the article exactly what is new versus old on this album. My best guess is these are the old tapes finished recently with the help of the Wondermints? Unless these new finishing touches are very minor indeed, it seems it might be overstating the case to say that we finally have the album that never was, especially because the track record of sixties dinosaurs at matching the quality of work of their heyday is dismal to say the least.
Brian Doherty|9.28.04 @ 1:44PM|#
Fyodor--
There are reams, books worth, of myths about SMILE that this 1,200 piece doesn't touch--Sgt. Peppers is one of them. In fact, Brian had completely abandoned SMILE before PEPPERS was released. This new record is entirely new recording-wise, no tracks or vocals from the 60s, although almost all of the music and lyrics were composed back then.
Jesse Walker|9.28.04 @ 1:50PM|#
As part of the oddball minority that prefers Smiley Smile to Pet Sounds, I'm looking forward to hearing this.
|9.28.04 @ 3:14PM|#
This new record is entirely new recording-wise, no tracks or vocals from the 60s
There goes my interest.
|9.29.04 @ 8:33AM|#
I would hope he got Carol Kaye & some of the old "wrecking crew" to play on the new stuff, at least on a couple of cuts. Just seems like it would be a nice thing to do, given how good those musicians made the Beach Boy records sound.
|9.29.04 @ 8:53AM|#
"I would hope he got Carol Kaye & some of the old "wrecking crew" to play on the new stuff..."
Well, Kaye and Hal Blaine are still around; Barney Kessel sadly passed on a few weeks ago; Glen Campbell might be available...
|9.29.04 @ 11:21AM|#
Pepper came out June 1 1967; when exactly did Wilson abandon SMILE? Early May? Wilson would have been among those who heard an advance copy, no?
fyodor|9.29.04 @ 11:27AM|#
"There goes my interest."
Well, I wouldn't go that far. I'd still say this project is interesting, potentially at least. But I would strongly differ with Mr. Dougherty that we are at long last seeing "a pop album ...released that was 38 years in the making," his obviously superior knowledge of pop history minutia notwithstanding. :-) This is clearly a different "album" than what was "in the making" 38 years ago. Rather, it's a new interpretation by an artist of a group of his own 38 year old compositions, to be released as a whole set for the first time. Related, true, but different.
Anyway, I hope it's good!
fyodor|9.29.04 @ 2:16PM|#
whatever,
As a matter of fact, that occurred to me too, that Wilson could very well have heard an advance copy (I know I've read that McCartney visited Wilson around the time and talked Peppers up). But I've thought better of attempting to cross paths with Doherty on such matters again!! :-)
|9.29.04 @ 3:24PM|#
I heard a story on NPR last week and heard some of the content. It sounded like it should be titled "Wince" instead of "Smile." Talk about dull!
Jeff|9.29.04 @ 10:35PM|#
Just listened to it. It's good, but I found it better at fulfilling it's hype than being a great album. A noble release nonetheless.
And since nobody has seen fit to suggest any experimental/concept albums, might I suggest Porcupine Tree's Lightbulb Sun and Kevin Gilbert's posthumus Shaming of the True.