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|5.13.04 @ 5:11AM|#
The link is broken.
|5.13.04 @ 5:30AM|#
Try Here
fyodor|5.13.04 @ 5:36AM|#
What's the website for sign-ins and passwords again?
Tim Cavanaugh|5.13.04 @ 5:46AM|#
The link is working. The story originally appeared in the LA Times, but we have a slightly expanded version up now.
|5.13.04 @ 5:59AM|#
Wow, Mr. Freund really seems upset that Zarqawi has gone and messed up what was going to be a great victory for his side. You had us were you wanted us then he had to go and screw it up by reminding people why we are there to begin with, well I'm sure you can maybe find a picture of a soldier jaywalking or something and use that to shame Americans into leaving Iraq, or better yet just make shit up like you did during Vietnam.
Jesse Walker|5.13.04 @ 6:13AM|#
"His side"? Hate to break it to you, E, but Freund is an Iraq hawk. You're replying to an article in your head, not an article on the site.
(Whatever happened to the quality of Reason's readers? Ever since Virginia Postrel left, you folks have been going downhill.)
Jesse Walker|5.13.04 @ 6:13AM|#
(That was a joke, of course. I love each and every one of you.)
|5.13.04 @ 7:08AM|#
I've said it before, Chuck Freund rarely disappoints.
JW: that was pretty funny
|5.13.04 @ 7:08AM|#
I've said it before, Chuck Freund rarely disappoints.
JW: that was pretty funny
Warren|5.13.04 @ 7:09AM|#
is the beheading video still available? None of the stories I've seen shows or links to it.
|5.13.04 @ 7:11AM|#
I really hate the LA Times song and dance routine
|5.13.04 @ 8:15AM|#
Does "plastic" twice not work anymore? That's what I've been using. I wonder how many people can use one login...
The WPost is worse (if that's what you meant by "song and dance"). I tried to read an article linked from H&R, it asked me for a goddamn *e-mail* plus password. Perhaps our Reason friends would be so kind in future as to emphasize:
1) when H&R links to Reason staffers' stories are on external pages like newspapers', and not simply new at Reason. Right now I constantly eye the status bar with suspicion, if only because I like to know where I'm going, web-wise.
2) links to sites needing user IDs and passwords
and
3) links to sites requiring bloody *e-mail addresses* instead of user IDs.
(Also, 3 and a half: for someone to post cheat logins when necessary.)
garym|5.13.04 @ 8:21AM|#
The beheading was, I think, calculated. Its purpose was to provoke American counter-atrocities. Its intent was to get Americans so angry that they would kill Iraqis in horrible ways or at least commit more prisoner abuse, so that Al-Qaeda could make Arabs forget that the US was really trying to make amends for the Abu Ghraib actions. It's possible the killers miscalculated -- I certainly hope so -- but it wasn't an act of blind stupidity.
Too convoluted an explanation? I don't think so. Palestinian suicide bombers have repeatedly shown their intent to derail any threatened peace process by provoking Israel to increased anger. People like these don't want peace, they want a jihad. The more they can provoke their enemies, the better their chances.
|5.13.04 @ 9:08AM|#
Warren:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/video/berg.WMV
worked a few hours ago. Several other links had were "404" or "exceeded bandwidth".
|5.13.04 @ 9:35AM|#
This is the Internet, a video of the Jew getting his head sawed off in the Middle East will always be available.
|5.14.04 @ 2:24AM|#
What the Berg video shows is what we are up against. Call it the war on terror or the clash of civilizations or anythin else. We, civilization, will not long endure if we do not completely vanquish such as those who gleefully beheaded Berg like he was an animal. It puts Abu Ghraib in context: a stupid and unfortunate mistake that hinders our efforts; but ultimately meaningless in light of those who hack off a man's head and desecrate his body. This is about more than Zarqawi. It is about the mindset that produced him, protects him, and cheers him, and which produces more like him. The only question should be how to eliminate it. Appeasement is not the answer. Distraction aids the enemy. Everything other than how to eliminate it is irrelvant.
|5.14.04 @ 6:35AM|#
I have to say, I think we will fully vanquish the likes of "those who gleefully beheaded Berg" via our market place and our culture. Indeed, that's why they hate us. We are going to crush them simply by engaging in free markets and free enterprise. We need military force to protect us to some degree, but what will really win out is the free market.
One of the Iranian women I work with is a good case in point. In Iran, post-Shah, she would go out in her burka, risking a whipping by wearing makeup and fancy clothes underneath. So would her girlfriends. The desire of most people is for material improvement and a better life, and the West offers that.
|5.14.04 @ 6:56AM|#
"Whatever happened to the quality of Reason's readers? Ever since Virginia Postrel left, you folks have been going downhill."
That's true. But that's just because of turnover. I wouldn't switch to Mother Jones, then ask them what happened to that great magazine I used to read.
|5.14.04 @ 7:20AM|#
"Whatever happened to the quality of Reason's readers? Ever since Virginia Postrel left, you folks have been going downhill."
I think that's because Reason has gone downhill since then as well.
--Joe.
|5.14.04 @ 12:41PM|#
Lisa, thanks for the tip, plastic twice works.
LA Times requires everything from your bra size to your birth date to your home address to register. I lied of course, but still.....
garym|5.15.04 @ 7:48AM|#
mike: Systematic abuse of prisoners cannot be explained as a "mistake." Things "other than how to eliminate [the enemy]" are extremely relevant, unless you want America to become just another totalitarian state stomping on enemies by every means possible.
I've just been reading the first few chapters of George Takei's autobiography, _To the Stars_. Probably out of print, but worth finding. He writes about his experiences as a small child in FDR's relocation camps for people who demonstrated their lack of Americanism by being born with slanted eyes. The idea that anything is OK as long as it helps to defeat the enemy has had grim consequences within the lifetime of people who are still around today.