Brian Doherty | February 2, 2004
The tale of a Miami booster and trade agreement supporter shot in the face with one of them there beanbag guns by (probably) a SWAT team member during Miami's Free Trade Agreement of the Americas brouhaha in November. It's long, and has some interesting details about the cops rules of engagement (still secret, apparently) and some suggestions that perhaps people with cameras were being deliberately targeted by overzealous SWAT members. Although it caused him some ongoing problems--"two months later, the right side of his face remains partially paralyzed and his right eyelid droops. A bandage still covers part of his ear and the raw slash where 35 stitches closed a golf ball-size hole. His days on camera are over, Kesser said. ``The doctor tells me the nerve is gone and will never come back.''--Mr. Carl Kesser has not (yet) sued anyone.
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couldn't there be an assault charge tossed in
there?
Of course not! Our Friendly Neighborhood Policeman Who Joined the
SWAT Team was acting in good faith, thinking that these hippies
might get out of line and challenge The Law. Can't have them
getting uppity, after all. Better to have a bit of collateral
damage than anyone challenging authority. Next one who tries to
protest might face the same thing, so we'll all stay in line, like
good little citizens.
"couldn't there be an assault charge tossed in
there?"
Of course not! Our Friendly Neighborhood Policeman Who Joined
the SWAT Team was acting in good faith, thinking that these hippies
might get out of line and challenge The Law.
The non-dipshit answer to your question, dhex, is "against who?".
Nobody seems to know who actually fired the beanbag in question, it
didn't get caught on tape, and you can't run a ballistics test on a
lead-shot beanbag fired from a shotgun.
Yep, too many people around here don't give a shit about police brutality when the victims are people they don't like. Sad, huh?
Whenever you go to a demonstration, there is SOME assumption of
risk.
One time, when I was at this demonstration, there were these
neo-commie types, and the end of my toe got stubbed in my boot.
Sure, I took precautions, I mean, my boots had steel toes and
everything, but there's your assumption of risk. I mean, you just
kind of know that when you're stomping a hippie, there's a
possibilty of getting hurt.
But I didn't SUE anybody over it!
P.S. Just kidding.
I wonder why protestors don't wear face shields, catchers pads,
gas-masks, and carry riot shields.
I mean, let's not let some chemicals and non-lethal projectiles get
in the way of free speech...
I'm pretty sure that protestors in riot gear would be interpreted by the cops as an intent to get into a fight.
dhex, the police are allowed to use force to enforce the law or keep the peace. It would be nearly impossible to demonstrate that the officer's intent in using force was criminal. It would be similarly difficult to show that that his superiors' orders were given with criminal intent. Unless you actually had tape of a cop saying "f***ing hippies, let's show 'em who's boss." Chances are, that sentiment/order was passed non-verbally.
Are protesters even "allowed" to wear gas masks? I remember a recent Reason Hit&Run about LA banning protesters from using gas masks. They make tear gas less effective and all..
Swamp:
Reminds me of the Left Coast law prohibiting civilians from wearing
body armor.
By golly, if the cops want you dead, who are you to passively
interfere?
Are protesters even "allowed" to wear gas masks? I remember
a recent Reason Hit&Run about LA banning protesters from using
gas masks. They make tear gas less effective and all..
Not sure about LA, but after the first day of WTO protests
(er..police riots), then Seattle mayor Paul Schell immediately
passed an ordinance making gas masks illegal to sell or distribute
in Seattle. Within a couple of days of passing the ordinance, it
was ruled unconstitutional and repealed.
Neb: I don't think it's so common in the US, but in Europe there
have been some demonstrators who've shown up with motorcycle
helmets, etc. Then again, they seem to have more organized factions
than we do. Here's something that mentions more prepared rioters in
Europe:
http://www.corpwatch.org/issues/PID.jsp?articleid=437
The inner tubes bit is pretty clever. Hard to carry without being
obvious, though.
Dan: Since whoever fired the beanbag was a police officer operating
under the official and express instructions of the department, he
could just sue the police, or the city. Doesn't have to be the
individual officer.
he could just sue the police, or the city. Doesn't have to
be the individual officer.
Dhex asked why assault charges shouldn't be filed, in addition to a
lawsuit. My response addressed only the possibility of prosecuting
someone for assault -- something which most certainly does require
the identities of specific officers.
I've been to several of these trade protests, the cops have been horrible at all of them -- arresting people not involved in the violence -- pepperspraying journolists and other not involved in the action, etc. -- they know they'll get away with it so they do whatever -- even if they lose some court case over violating peoples rights (there are still court cases going on over DC trade protests) the cops retire to their fat pensions with zero responsibility -- its amazing they haven't killed anyone yet -- I root of the anarchists, they hurt the leftist cause and the cops get what they deserve but they're all too chickensh*t to be effective against the cops...
Here in Tucson, there was the 1997 NCAA Championship Police
Riot. The police plan seemed to be to make 4th Avenue the
designated anarchy zone, make the bars send all the celebrants out
onto the street after the game, have a wall of police in full
battle array (as if they were in Beirut or the West Bank or
someplace), and then blame the injuries on a few bad apples.
As far as I know, only cameramen and cars were harmed during the
police stupidity demonstration. And a guy had his eye shot out,
though he got paid via lawsuit.
I'd have to chase down the supporting info, but I'm pretty sure that prior to the Miami events, the local city council passed some emergency legislation that exempted all law enforcement, the city, the state, anyone in uniform, from being charged civilly. And yes, it's virtually impossible for cops to be convicted of criminal charges for damaging civilians.
"Whenever you go to a demonstration, there is SOME
assumption of risk."
Shultz, I don't know what country you live in, but when I go to a
demonstration in the United States, the last thing on my mind is an
assumption of risk. I'm there, usually, with my beagles, to make a
point and voice my opinion. Where exactly do you live? Or is it
just paranoia?
> some suggestions that perhaps people with cameras were being deliberately targeted by overzealous
Ayatollah: I was thinking along the same lines. Some of these
rounds are fired from regular shotguns. If you pointed a shotgun at
the cops, how long do you think it would take them to respond with
deadly force? Think they're going to wait to find out whether
you're firing buckshot or only beanbags? Yet when they do it to the
citizens, the citizens are just supposed to rely on the good graces
of the cops and assume the best. If things keep going this way,
eventually there _will_ be an incident where the cops fire live
ammunition at people - some nervous cop will think he sees a gun in
the crowd, and that will be that.
dj: "go back" to clubs? The police still do use batons in riot
situations. As for "not looking that bad", there have been people
who have lost eyes because of things like this. I don't, and I
don't think most people do, have a problem with the police using
these devices where they're justified, but there are lots of
reports of the police using them in a very indiscriminate
fashion.
A historical note - google for "Peterloo Massacre" to see an
example of a similar event from Britain in 1819.
Whenever police are questioned about excessive force, the
answer is always that they were following their training. Sounds
like Nuremberg and "just folling orders."
Of course it sounds that way; you invented the "answer" to achieve
that effect. A parallel would be if I said "When anti-trade
protesters are asked about their motives, they always say that they
think America should come first. Sounds like the same thing Nazi
sympathizers said prior to World War II." Except, of course, that
neither the police nor the protesters "always", or even frequently,
say anything of the kind.
When police are questioned about the use of force other people
claim is excessive, what they *actually* usually say (they don't
"always" say anything) is that the use of force was necessary,
warranted, and non-excessive. In cases of obviously-excessive
force, the usual spin comes as an appeal to pity -- "it's tough
being a cop", "we have to make difficult decisions", etc.
Saying "I'm just doing what I was trained to do", however, is NOT a
common response. For one thing, that's the kind of response that
deflects blame *upwards* -- a cop who says "I just did what they
told me" is just asking for the police chief to declare that that
cop had acted inappropriately, and counter to his training, whether
that's true or not.
When the use of force is proven in court to have been excessive,
the police do NOT say "well, it was how we were trained, so we're
still innocent" -- the claim the "just following orders" Nazis were
trying to make.
"That's led to a lot of suspicion, in certain segments of the
a-g movement, that the Blac Bloc people are police
provocateurs."
Wow the oninion gets deeper and deeper. I hear that Rage Agaisnt
the Machine and Fight Club were subsidized by the NWO to discredit
the anti-world movement as fans of shitty music and movies. Did you
know that the CIA gets $2 per every Che T-Shirt produced?
That's led to a lot of suspicion, in certain segments of the
a-g movement, that the Blac Bloc people are police
provocateurs
If they had a firm grasp of reality, they wouldn't be in the
movement in the first place.
Most fringe political groups have traditional beliefs that The
Government Is Conspiring To Keep Them Down, and that The Government
Knows It Needs To Keep People From Hearing Their Message Or They'd
Be Up Against The Wall Double-Quick. The reality, which is that
they're a bunch of whackjobs who don't even register on "The Man"'s
radar screen, seldom occurs to them.
Whenever police are questioned about excessive force, the answer
is always that they were following their training. Sounds like
Nuremberg and "just folling orders."
The whole problem with less-lethal weapons is that they encourages
cops to use their guns in situations where they cannot use deadly
force. These beanbags are fired from a shotgun, pepper from a 40mm
pistol. Yet if you brandished such a weapon, you will get shot and
killed, with real slugs and JHPs. I recall one incident where the
cop reached for his taser, but got his Glock by accident, and shot
the suspect in the back. Less-lethal leads to escalation, and
should not be a part of any law enforcement toolkit.
>let's not let some chemicals and non-lethal
>projectiles get in the way of free speech...
Since when does "free speech" include harassing foreign
dignitaries, blocking hotels and meeting rooms, and stopping
traffic? I'm all against brutality, and this is clearly an
unfortunate excess, but I've been to a lot of these anti-trade
events and the protestors quite often seek to provoke a police
confrontation. The charge that these are just law-abiding people
getting pounced on by the cops is pure crap.
>I don't, and I don't think most people do, have a problem with the police using these devices where they're justified, but there are lots of reports of the police using them in a very indiscriminate fashion.
The problem, Conor, is that the cops often seem to show more
zeal for jumping on the peaceful demonstrators than they do for
going after the people who are breaking windows and vandalizing
cars. That's led to a lot of suspicion, in certain segments of the
a-g movement, that the Blac Bloc people are police
provocateurs.
And the police don't limit themselves to responding to force or to
a "clear and present danger" of it. Police Commissioner Timoney,
especially, has been a zealot for preemptively arresting the
leadership of activist groups in the days before a demo, on
whatever trumped-up charges he can invent, and holding them in
preventive detention until the event is over. This isn't just cops
reacting excessively to a bunch of admittedly thuggish punks in
Circle-A t-shirts. It's the action of a political police force to
shut down a movement it's opposed to ideologically.
Mr. Lynch,
Please note the P.S. on my original post--No, I've never done any
such thing, but the logic that I used was similar to some of the
arguments I've seen posted (and I've heard), so I thought some
satire was in order.
P.S. Some of my best friends are Beagles. Beagles are the ultimate
life form. Everything I ever really needed to know, I learned from
my Beagle.
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