Beware of Warrior Cops

With the Drug War winding down, they're finding new excuses to use their military-grade toys.

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Free Staters better watch out next time they get into an argument over a traffic ticket.

Most libertarians argue that police, courts and military are legitimate functions of government. We focus our skepticism on completely illegitimate government actions, like corporate welfare.

But few freedoms are more basic than being able to sleep securely in your bed without armored men bursting through your door. 

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  • sarcasmic||

    This is so last week.

  • ||

    Stossel is not Balko, his mission in life is to spread the the word to the masses.

    And it's so five years ago, not last week.

  • ||

    You ignorant slut.

  • sarcasmic||

    If you watched his show then you'd know that this piece is about last weeks show.
    Hence "This is so last week," you ignorant slut.

  • ||

    I can't watch his show because I live in Europe where socialism has been perfected you ignorant slut.

  • sarcasmic||

    You got me there.

  • BakedPenguin||

    What, you can't get Hulu in Czechia? Or are you just an ignorant slut?

  • From the Tundra||

    Agreed. Balko wrote "Overkill" for CATO in 05 or 06.

    Wouldn't these articles be better over at USA Today or something? Posting them here seems like kind of a waste. Other than Buckaroo Banzai from Seattle, who's left here to convince?

  • Hyperion||

    If you can get USA today to post it, I agree. Good luck with that.

  • From the Tundra||

    That's true. Balko has braved HP for awhile now, trying to convert the heathen. Maybe Stossel should try a similar tact.

  • some guy||

    Too many people immediately associate Stossel with the "uber-conservative libertarian right". Balko probably had very little name recognition going in.

  • BakedPenguin||

    "...try a similar tack." From tacking a ship's sail.

    Tact would have been me not being pedantic and overlooking the mistake.

  • From the Tundra||

    Damn you, BP. I saw that and hoped midday malaise had set in.

  • Bill Dalasio||

    Well, maybe not USA Today, but Stossel does get posted on some of the right wing sites. And he's quite often able to either change minds or at least encourage more libertarian-minded conservatives to speak up.

  • Anders||

    Post it on National Review And Mother Jones.

    Watch Left and Right-ish unite in defense of the militarized police raping the constitution.

  • ||

    Stossel is fighting the good fight. Sure his articles are pretty tame by HnR standards but I think his program reaches more people than Balko's column. Why not reprint Stossel's columns here, not hurting anything?

  • Cloudbuster||

    Stephen Chapman?

  • Idle Hands||

    Seriously, stossel should write an article asking the tough stuff, eg: is Paris Hilton to disease ridden to bone?

  • Anomalous||

    If you avoid her during her herpes flare-ups, it's probably okay, but I would still glove up.

  • Hyperion||

    Despite laws clearly saying that soldiers may not be used for domestic policing except in very special circumstances, the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security now offer armored vehicles -- tanks and troop transports, body armor and stun grenades -- to police departments, large or small.

    Laws? We don't need no stinkin laws!

    /Obama administration

  • Anders||

    Whilst Balko is 98% correct, try watching Dallas SWAT sometime.

    Of course they only show the 'good' raids but there are some bad dudes also shown, living in heavily fortified drug houses with cages etc. and they do fire back at the poh-leese. These are the kind of people one does take seriously.

    But yeah, there's also rampant fucking abuse and some of the worst cases happen outside of the big cities. "All the gear, no idea' you could say. Sure they have armored vehicles etc. but they are NOT highly trained special forces troops - they've just played too much CoD.

  • ||

    Could I have his address, please? I have a phone call to make.

  • DarrenM||

    That's always been the problem with power. If you have it, you'll find an excuse to use it.

  • Robert||

    So what can be done? I'm afraid that among most people who are paying att'n, the appearance of the problem itself fuels the problem: "OMG, there are armored vehicles in the street, this place must be terribly dangerous! Get the police more armor!"

    Is there anything you can think of that isn't pie in the sky to break this vicious cycle?

  • Anders||


    1./ HUGE, outrageous lawsuits every time a SWAT team gets it wrong and smashes down a door shooting the dogs and everyone else. Make the municipalities look down the barrel of bankruptcy.

    Why this doesn't happen hundreds of times a year I do not know.

    2./ Mandatory Municipal Risk Assessments. I know a few people in a VERY rural county in flyover country. DHS generously 'gifted' them grants to build a war machine, including the highest end tech for dealing with WMDs.

    In the latter case a risk assessment would say well, in a county in the middle of literally nowhere the biggest threat we're going to face is a few pissed off meth heads in an F150 with a couple of Mini-14s.

    Ergo - no need for a SWAT team, WMD team, full scale Metro Hazmat team, etc.

    Bottom line: Sue them into submission. Maybe they'll have to sell their free shit.

  • Anders||

    Also, try doing a ride out with your local police. Some towns even have community-police outreach type programs.

    In my limited experience if you ask nicely they'll show your their toys.

    They are VERY proud of their toys.

    Take pictures, contact your local government and ask if all this is really necessary.

  • ||

    So long as they can seize private property to fund their war they'll never go bankrupt. When you can be completely innocent of a criminal charge and still have your car taken there is something very wrong.

  • Harvard||

    "Buckaroo Banzai from Seattle"

    I'm betting the sycophant read this and never associated it with himself.

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  • ||

    If private citizens aren't supposed to own automatic weapons, armored vehicles and body armor because those things are military equipment, at what point does a police force cross the line from protecting and serving to being an occupying army?


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