India's Selective Outrage: The Tale of Two Rapes

Indians need to hold politicos who sponsor sexual violence accountable

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Tolerating sexual violence for any purpose erodes the overall stigma against it, opening a moral space where tormentors can run amok. The lack of national outrage against the mass rapes perpetrated under Modi reduces their true cruelty, breaking down the psychological walls that would at least prevent nonsociopaths from going on a rampage. Hindus who turn a blind eye to the rape of Muslim women can’t ultimately protect their own.

How India can restore moral boundaries is a difficult issue, but it certainly won’t be solved by electing Modi to higher office—even if he were Adam Smith himself. Protesters shouldn’t just seek justice against the six accused in New Delhi. Modi, too, has much to atone.

An earlier version of this column appeared in Bloomberg View.

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  • SIV||

    Why is this garbage being posted a second time?

  • Obama Unchained||


  • Almanian.||

    I'm showing selective outrage that this particular article was reposted. I do not show outrage at all repostings.

    That is all.

  • Walter Labat||

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  • Heroic Mulatto||

    As was stated the last time this article was published on, (which has mysteriously gone down the memory hole) many of the "rapes" that occurred during the Gujarat riots were proven to be as "real" as the fabricated reports of rape and other atrocities in New Orleans during Katrina.

    Again, many of the reports that Ms. Dalmia links to as support are highly biased and read like an Edward Said rant against Israel, but with the term "Zionism" replaced with "Hindutva".

    That Ms. Dalmia is naive enough to fall for the manufactured outrage of the global Pallywood disinformation machine is bad enough, but that she would be actively participation in this campaign of blood libel is unconsciousable.

    How does one say "shame on you!" in Gujarati?

  • SIV||

    You're the linguist. All I can do is find Gujarat on an unlabeled map.

  • 16th amendment||

    The atrocities definitely did happen. I'm sure that the holocaust also happened.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Did I deny the Gujarat riots occurred? Did I state that every single accusation of rape during the riots was false? No, I did not. However, many of the incidents were exaggerated by a media hungry for lurid and shocking stories and by NGO's and other activist groups who have ideological reasons for making the violence seem worse than it was. Just as the Holocaust is historical fact, Ilsa: She-Wolf of the S.S. isn't.

  • ZackTheHypochondriac||

    so there was rape and death, but not quite as much as shikha thinks there was, so might as well not point out the hypocrisy of a politician who used a particularly vicious gangrape for political gain while being fine with a multitude of 'lesser rapes' for similar political reasons.

    media usually exaggerates stuff, doesn't mean that shikha's article was blood libel.

  • SIV||

  • SIV||

    The Whole World is calling you cosmotarians out:

    Is Reason foundation "Pseudo-Libertarian" ?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Ah thanks!

    And as per your comment:

    Get one of those YAL chicks. Unlike the late Lucy, they seem to know how to use spell-check.

    If they got Kathryn DeLong on staff, I would become a lifetime member of the Reason Foundation.

  • pmains||

    Seriously. Kathryn knows her stuff. If she replaced somebody -- let's call him Bike Digs -- I wouldn't mind.

  • 16th amendment||

    Your general idea that people overlook brutality by the state is a part of a general concept, which is that people revere their governments and overlook their faults. Consider public education. If private companies behaved this way -- paying their employees a lot, not firing the bad employees, generating dismal test result -- people would rightly complain and accuse the company of profiteering and such. But when the company is the government, they just overlook it. Though I think depending on how advanced the culture is, certain crimes will not be overlooked: So these type of state-sanctioned rapes would not be tolerated here.

  • Sidd Finch||

    Threatened Existence: A Feminist Analysis of the Genocide in Gujarat

    sounds legit

  • JeremyR||

    This is actually one of the downsides of immigration. It causes a "brain" drain on the country they are leaving.

    If you care about India, why not stay there and try to make it a better place? Instead you decided to come to another country that doesn't have those problems.

    If everyone simply leaves their crappy countries, then how are these crappy countries going to get better? Writing columns from halfway around the world might make you feel better, but it accomplishes nothing else..

  • π-e||


  • johnl||

    How about this test? Can we find one nice thing to say about Earth's largest democracy? Without that, this looks like an author with an axe to grind against India, and it's getting old.

  • buybuydandavis||

    I'm not a big fan of Dalmia, but I'm disturbed at the hate she is receiving over this.

    "She's exaggerating the massacre and gang rape executions."

    She's comparing the selective outrage between the gang rape murder of ONE person and a government massacre involving systematic rape, with the report of the death of a 1000. What, not 1000? 900? 800? 100? 50?

    What's the exact number of people who needed to be raped and/or murdered before you think she has a point?

  • ZackTheHypochondriac||

    she is slightly left libertarian, and the commenters are more often right libertarian, so she is hated even if she has a good article. this is pretty much the same concept as obama using the newton massacre even though he authorized the bombing of over 160 children in drone strikes. that is a much more accepted topic here, even though it is pretty much the same thing in this article.

  • johnl||

    Exactly. Because left wing and right wing, in the USA, are defined by how much value you place on the life of a Hindu. In the USA, we talk about Hindus all the time, even though we have almost none of them. A leftist counts a Hindu life near 0, a centrist around 0.5, and a rightist near 1. This is the USA's central policy debate.

  • johnl||

    WTH? Accusing a person of a crime who has been acquitted of the same crime, without providing one bit of evidence, this is par for the course? But suggesting that the acquitted might be innocent is rape advocacy?

    I suppose you are 20 and have no memory of the disaster as it unfolded. But the press around the world was up in arms about the carloads of Hindus killed bu Moslem attackers. I have no opinion on how the carloads of people died or who was responsible. But lots of people were angry. I was angry. There was NFW this was ending well and there were not enough cops in India to keep the blood of innocent Gujarati from being quieted with the blood of other innocent Gujarati.

  • EdwinNJ||

    The attacks on Muslims sound bad but the reality is Muslims anywhere are a bad thing and have it coming. Muslims all over the world initiate and keep up violence, and they're the most barbaric culture in a world full of already barbaric cultures.

    You American white-boys may not want to hear all of that, but I've grown up with relatives/family from the Near East and they're pretty uniformly racist, anti-semitic, women's-rights-ignoring, stubborn, eccentric assholes. And these are the ones who AREN'T muslim. I can't even imagine what the muzzies and arabs are like.

  • Sevo||

    "Muslims all over the world initiate and keep up violence, and they're the most barbaric culture in a world full of already barbaric cultures."

    Uh, seems a bit of generalization going on here.

  • johnl||

    Yes but EdwinNJ is no worse than Dalmia.

  • EdwinNJ||

    not really, wherever there are muslims there is beef with the neighboring religions. There are few exceptions, and no other religion has this problem. There's a saying, you're not going to like every person in the world, however, if you hate everyone, then YOU'RE the one with the problem (the muslims are like this).

    And I've grown up with these bastards and I can tell you they're barbarians. They are pretty uniformly anti-semitic, women-hating, paranoid, racist assholes. Yeah, they're even racist. They COME HERE to a place they've never been before, and hate on people THEY"VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE (blacks).

  • hotsy totsy||

    "You American white-boys may not want to hear all of that, but I've grown up with relatives/family from the Near East and they're pretty uniformly racist, anti-semitic, women's-rights-ignoring, stubborn, eccentric assholes"

    So it's okay to beat, gang-rape, and then hack them to pieces?

  • mjani||

    This article does not mention that Hindus started rioting after Muslims burned 60 Hindus alive in the train coach.

  • johnl||

    But they were Hindu. They don't eat enough beef. They play cricket. They keep cows as pets. They don't eat eggs, and can't explain why not. They believe in the wrong number of gods. It's not like they were dogs or even snail darter. No human should have to hold in a sneeze or redirect their pee to spare the life of every Hindu. If they are burned by the carload, they should NAP right back.

  • mjani||

    Nobody has to redirect his pee to save them. As this event shows, they are capable of some fierce retaliation.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    India is an uncivilized nation.

  • d_remington||

    Yeah, thanks a bunch, england!

  • 4thaugust1932||

    India is 4th most dangerous place in the world for women.
    It is only a little better than war-ravaged Afghanistan and Congo.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    If you're proud of Modi's accomplishments in Gujarat, take Independence from India and go build your own nation as per "Communal Award".

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Gujarat is developing due to Globalization i.e FDI/FII/QIP/NRI/PIO investments ($120 billion/yr).
    Modi's contribution is nothing but religious bigotry.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Prosecute/punish Advani/Modi under National Security Act for killing thousands of innocent people in Babri/Godhra riots.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Any type of hegemony will have awkward repercussions and collateral damage.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    If Modi is innocent he should come to a mosque on Friday without his gunmen.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    FORWARD CASTE (Advani,Gadkari,Jaitley,Sushma,Keshubhai) will NEVER let/accept BACKWARD CASTE Modi as Prime Minister of India.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Land reforms by Jyoti Basu in West Bengal made him CM for 23 years, but not PM.
    Infrastructure development by Modi in Gujarat will make him CM for 15 years, but not PM.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Gujarat is developing due to Globalization, not Modi.
    Indian Govt Budget = $172 billion/yr
    NRI remittance = $70 billion/year
    FDI = $50 billion/year

  • 4thaugust1932||

    How Advani/Modi are roaming freely in India and contesting in elections after taking thousands of innocent lives?

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Anti-Islam is a cheap tool/trick used by FORWARD CASTE people to promote their Hegemony over BC/SC/ST/MC people in India.

    90% of corrupt money ($2 trillion) is with FORWARD CASTE people and 10 of them also evaded $100 billion to Banks in India. Their population in India is less than 15%.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    Caste system seeds hatred among people in India. It's only going to get worse in the future.
    "The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them." --Einstein

  • 4thaugust1932||

    DEMAND for Independent Nation to Muslims/Christians/Anglo-Indians/Sikh/SC/ST people is PENDING since 4th August 1932 Round Table Conference (Communal Award).

  • 4thaugust1932||

    During Indo-Pak partition in 1947 all Muslim majority regions are to be merged with Pakistan.

    Indian regime betrayed and occupied both Hindu majority "Hyderabad state" and Muslim majority "Kashmir state" to promote 2 million brahmins/pundits hegemony in Jammu region.

    Now 1.2 billion people in India are suffering viz Mumbai/Pune/Delhi/Coimbatore/Hyderabad/Parliament bomb blasts, 4 cross border wars and an inevitable nuclear holocaust with Pakistan.

    Google "Kashmir_dispute#Reasons_behind_the_dispute"

  • ygsrf||

    2013 Happy New Year


    Manipuri women stripped naked and stormed the army headquarters with placards plaintively protesting: “Indian Army Rapes Us.”

  • BMFPitt||

    WTF, Hindus? You were supposed to be the laid back non-murdering religion. There needed to be at least one.

  • 4thaugust1932||

    What makes you think your parents/children/future generations/houses/properties are safe from sections of society whom you've abused for thousands of years?
    "Two eyes for an eye begets justice." --Kanshiram


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