Did Freedom Win?

Obama's supporters seem to think it's enough to put this extraordinary man in office.

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"When you have a $3.6 trillion federal government, that money will absolutely benefit some businesses. That's crony capitalism. It takes money from all of us and gives it to some," said Boaz. "Maybe a clean-energy or green-jobs company that has not already gone bankrupt might get that money. Similarly, if you're a defense contractor, you'd be in favor of Mitt Romney getting elected, because that would be good for your business. But it's all bad for the American economy to tax some people and then dole the money back out."

My hope for now: gridlock. People say they like bipartisanship, but bipartisanship usually means politicians conspire to take more of our money and freedom. Bipartisanship gave us the Department of Homeland Security, TSA, PATRIOT Act, Import-Export Bank, war on drug users, ethanol subsides, TARP, No Child Left Behind, foreign wars and an ever-rising debt. When Democrats and Republicans come together, they put us deeper in debt.

Let's have some gridlock!

The outcome of this election is a sea of government with a few islands of freedom. Gay people are freer in a few states, and marijuana consumers in a couple more. But sadly, most of us will be victims of the ever-growing government spider web of higher taxes and freedom-killing rules.

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  • Libertymike| |

    Worshipping an affirmative action community organizer who has never made anything or met a payroll is most unbecoming a free people.

  • Jordan| |

    The only "freedom" pro-regressives care about is robbing others to pay for their healthcare. There is no liberty they wouldn't sacrifice for that. And witness the absolute seething hatred directed at anyone who mentions the "s" word (secession). They get off on directing violence against peaceful people.

  • sarcasmic| |

    Don't forget the sacred right to kill unborn children.
    Millions of people voted for Obama because Romney was going to use his dictatorial powers to outlaw abortion on his first day in office.

  • WTF| |

    I'm also pretty sure RMoney was also going to steal your ladyparts.

  • Loki| |

    He was going to round them all up, lock them in rape camps where they would used as breeding stock for a new race of Super Skrulls Mormons.

  • | |

    Yawn. No they didn't, you just have a hard-on for abortion. Boring.

  • sarcasmic| |

    You just have a hard-on for hard-ons. Boring.

  • Randian| |

    That's far more exciting than having one for abortion.

  • WTF| |

    That's far more exciting than having one for abortion.

    NTTAWWT

  • | |

    I'm excited right now!

  • Almanian.| |

    Well, shit, there goes MY excitement.

  • $park¥| |

    But are we a free people today?

    No. And most Americans don't want to be. Freedom is kinda scary, better to be taken care of by somebody who knows better.

  • rts| |

    Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

    - George Bernard Shaw

    (yes, yes, ironic coming from a staunch socialist, I know.)

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.| |

    Not really. Sounds no me like he was explaining himself.

  • Pro Libertate| |

    "Freedom? That is a worship word. Yang worship. You will not speak it."

  • Almanian.| |

    Hey! We went through all this yesterday. So - "what we said yesterday!" - and call it good.

    OK, one more thing - "...otherwise, these words mean NOTHING! DO you understand?!!"

  • Pro Libertate| |

    We should go through this every day. Actively making those words meaningless by allowing the government to continue to usurp power is both stupid and sickening.

  • | |

    KIRK: This was not written for chiefs. (general consternation) Hear me! Hear this! Among my people, we carry many such words as this from many lands, many worlds. Many are equally good and are as well respected, but wherever we have gone, no words have said this thing of importance in quite this way. Look at these three words written larger than the rest, with a special pride never written before or since. Tall words proudly saying We the People. That which you call Ee'd Plebnista was not written for the chiefs or the kings or the warriors or the rich and powerful, but for all the people! Down the centuries, you have slurred the meaning of the words, 'We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution.' These words and the words that follow were not written only for the Yangs, but for the Kohms as well!
    CLOUD: The Kohms?
    KIRK: They must apply to everyone or they mean nothing! Do you understand?

  • $park¥| |

    What a load of malarkey.

  • LTC(ret) John| |

    *sets phaser to 'deep fry', takes aim at Sparks*

  • Loki| |

    Damn you! I was going to post the same comment.

    "From hell's heart, I stab at thee!"

  • sarcasmic| |

    We are the domesticated descendents of a once free and proud people.

  • Almanian.| |

    The Lab people are cute, too.

  • | |

    Can't even run off anymore, they practically have us microchipped.

  • | |

    "My fellow Earthicans, we enjoy so much freedom, it's almost sickening. We're free to chose which hand our sex-monitoring chip is implanted in. And if we don't want to pay our taxes, why, we're free to spend a week with the Pain Monster."

  • WTF| |

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville

  • | |

    We beat the average! Woo hoo!

  • WTF| |

    I don't know that 236 years is all that much of a win.

  • Raven Nation| |

    Beat the French. And the Russians.

  • Briggie| |

    Sorry my world history is a little bit hazy, how many have there been? Are we going by democracies or just empires? We have Greece, Rome, Byzantine, Spain, Britain, and The US. Rather small sample space. Some of those wouldn't count if we were going just by democracy, but either way they all only lasted a couple hundred years.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder| |

    ok, 200 is the average, but what's the standard deviation?

  • Loki| |

    I'm going to guess ~40 years. Give or take a few.

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.| |

    We are the domesticated descendants of a once free and proud people.

    "Mao!" (Clearing throat.) "Meow!"

  • califernian| |

    We are ruled by women voters. It's the sad truth.

  • Almanian.| |

    Oh boy! Here we go!

  • | |

    Yes, it's all women's fault. Let's hate them!

    What an absurd, collectivist statement.

  • | |

    Are you questioning the wisdom of Jimmy Buffet? ARE YOU?

  • | |

    You're a woman, and I hate you. So what's the problem?

  • | |

    That goes for JW too.

  • American| |

    Anything in our modern world can be said to be a "collectivist statemeny."
    "Germans murdered 6 million Jews"
    "Democrats are pro-choice"
    "Americans like football"
    "Libertarians want a smaller state"
    "Children are playfull"

  • califernian| |

    "Freedom?"

    Man they should have gotten that on film. Perfect summation of a liberal.

  • $park¥| |

    They did get it on film. They showed a little clip of it on O'Reilly last night.

  • BelowTheRim| |

    We attended Obama's victory party in Chicago (we go so you don't have to)

    Imagine if Obama mandated everyone attend his victory party.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder| |

    I feel like I did. Does that count?

  • BelowTheRim| |

    Yes, it certainly counts.

  • WTF| |

    Imagine if Obama mandated everyone attend his victory party.

    Johnny Rob says he could do it if he structured it as a penaltax.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder| |

    Roberts shall live in infamy. He'll never escape that decision.

  • | |

    A friend of mine, who is a very accomplished attorney and a hardcore liberal, called it the most intellectually dishonest Supreme Court opinion he's ever read.

  • triclops| |

    More than Roe v Wade?

    I don't see how anything can beat that, whether or not one thinks abortion should be legal.

  • BelowTheRim| |

    +1

  • American| |

    'You gotta if you wanna get laid man'(pun intended)

  • | |

    KIRK: That's a very interesting theory. The yellow civilisation is almost destroyed, the white civilisation is destroyed. Keep working on the window if we're ever going to regain our freedom.
    CLOUD: (The male Yang, with a very deep voice.) Freedom? Freedom?
    KIRK: Spock.
    SPOCK: Yes, I heard, Captain.
    CLOUD: That is a worship word. Yang worship. You will not speak it.
    KIRK: Well, well, well. It is our worship word, too.

    -----

    Kirk forever.

  • Almanian.| |

    (see above)

  • Certified Public Asskicker| |

    Stossel couldn't pick a better P.J. O'Rourke quote to work with?

  • Ska| |

    Did freedom win? Nah, it wasn't even playing.

  • LTC(ret) John| |

    It withdrew after the first set, with an injured wrist.

  • aelhues| |

    Freedom has been in hiding since its shellacking in 1942...Wickard v. Filburn.

  • Major Pain| |

    That wasn't about "freedom", that was about overweening Federal authority as compared to state authority. Which would have been pretty much irrelevant to freedom and liberty if the Feds obeyed the bill of rights.

    That's the actual problem: our actual liberties have been eroded and this is entirely separate from the inversion of the commerce clause, which is the actual constitutional consequence of Wickard v. Filburn.

  • joey89924| |

    Nah, it wasn't even playing.
    www.hqew.net

  • LilMissSunshine| |

    The only ones who are "free" are the takers. The givers (taxpayers) are held hostage to this administration's socialism.

  • Rhino| |

    Hard to say that even states that legalized marijuana are more free because marijuana is a schedule narcotic according to federal law. There will probably be court cases around it but the feds will probably win out due to the supremacy clause in the Constitution.I understand the feds don't have any jurisdiction in drugs, but they don't see it that way and case law shows that's all that matters.

  • Crazyotto| |

    "Obama supporters know that Brawndo has what plants crave ..they crave electrolytes"..A society is doomed when the majority of its electorate is silly, trite and ignorant of its history and civics.. over 50% of the country fits this description.

  • Major Pain| |

    I'll tell you one thing: I didn't vote for Obama because I thought he was pro-freedom. He isn't. And you bet freedom is on my radar, as it were.

    I voted for him because Romney, and the Republicans in general, presented a unified front of anti-science, anti-woman, anti-immigration, pro-religion, pro-war, anti-freedom. And because voting third party would have increased Romney's chances to win, inasmuch as my vote would have been either third party or Obama.

    Obama has demonstrated sporadic positives all over those subjects. Romney is a dog-abusing, flip-flopping, unpredictable candidate who lied day in and day out. And, as conclusively demonstrated by his post-election "Obama gift" rhetoric, he's stupid. Obama, for all his faults, isn't stupid.

    Obama didn't win because he's so great. He won because Romney is so, so bad.

  • TJSwift| |

    "At Obama's celebration, people didn't mention freedom, but they sure mentioned handouts, like taxpayer-financed higher education. It's as if their attitude is: What can government give me? They don't realize that "free stuff" only seems free because the real cost is hidden."

    Right. And a the fastest segment of those people arrived here illegally, and brought their socialist dreams with them. That is why I cannot, for the life of me, understand how (by all appearance) smart, thoughtful people can espouse the virtues of a completely open border.

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