Freedom of Speech Is Never Safe

Not even in America

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I supported occupational licensing when I was a young consumer reporter. But now I've wised up. Now I see that it doesn't protect consumers. Competition and reputation are better protection. When you move to a new community, do you choose new dentists or mechanics by checking their licenses? No. You ask neighbors or colleagues for recommendations, or check Consumer Reports and Angie's List. You check because you know that even with licensing laws, there is quackery.

Licensing creates a false sense of security, raises costs, stifles innovation, takes away consumer choice and interferes with the right to earn a living.

And now I see another reason to object to it. It collides with freedom of speech.

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  • Whiterun Guard||

    If the authors of the Constitution knew that the First Amendment would eventually be used to protect monsters like Steve Cooksey, they never would have written it.

  • Randian||

    Because I am curmudgeonly like that, I officially hate the Paleo Diet just because I am sick to death of hearing about it.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Most of the religiously paleo would probably starve to death if faced with authentic aboriginal food options.

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    Most of the religiously paleo would probably starve to death if faced with authentic aboriginal food options.

    Like hunting, dressing and cooking your own food?

    Heck, I have neighbors who nearly starved the week we went without power after Hurricane Irene. They eat at restaurants breakfast, lunch and dinner. All they had in the house was coffee, tea and ramen noodle soup packets, but could figure out no way to make them.

    How do you make it into middle age without a charcoal grill and a 3-quart saucepan?

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    Every time I think I have a handle on Paleo, it shifts on me. It began with low-carb, high-fat. I know it works (125 lbs / 8 months, kept off 8 years) and why.

    But then it gets into vegetable oils, and all kinds of hedge laws about when and how much fruit you can eat, and whether or not some kinds of starches are OK. What's this about peanuts and soy? And then there's honey, which is natural, but maybe only if it comes with bee stings?

  • Brett L||

    Oils are fats. They're cool. Honey is not significantly different in composition from sucrose or HFCS. If you're going to encounter it twice a year, go right ahead. I think the starches are like carbs in the Adkins diet. Once you've hit your target, you can add until you start gaining weight, then cut back to half until you find a stable medium. But yes, now that there's money to be made, expect several schisms, revolutions, counter-revolutions and purifications (in which the heretics are read out of the movement).

  • robc||

    Splitter!

  • fried wylie||

    but maybe only if it comes with bee stings

    If you're going to encounter it twice a year

    Well, you wouldn't be interested in eating honey more than twice a year if it involved the bee stings.

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    but maybe only if it comes with bee stings
    If you're going to encounter it twice a year
    Well, you wouldn't be interested in eating honey more than twice a year if it involved the bee stings.

    Precisely, sir! ...Which makes me wonder why your namesake was so bound and determined to eat roadrunner for supper.

  • fried wylie||

    Right? With the activity level of that bird, the meat must be tough as steel.

  • ||

    Chasing the RR was his form of exercise. How else do you think he kept his svelte form when he obviously had enough money to be living high on the hog.

  • SKR||

    Anyone that can mail order rocket skates definitely has some disposable income and is not wanting for food.

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    Sorry for the sarcastic tone of the post. I know what works for me.

    Vegetable oils are fine as far as weight loss, but I have reservations about how the human body uses vegetable fats and proteins when animal fats and proteins are restricted. Vegetarians tend to die young and have a lot of strange "autogenic" diseases, and Hindus have extremely high cancer rates, even when you take their smoking rates into account.

    I've just learned what works best for me is to keep my diet as free as possible of alcohols, sugars and starches, and as high as possible in animal products, especially saturated fats. Full-fat dairy doesn't seem to bother me.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Hindus and vegetarians also have extremely high bad breath. Coincidence? No, vegetarian type diets have, in fact, been scientifically correlated with odorous breath and skin.

  • mr simple||

    If you think their breath is bad, you should smell what comes out the other end.

  • Mensan||

    I've been saying this for years, and everybody always reacts like I'm a crazy person. Vegetarians smell weird! I don't know how to describe it, but they always have this strange unpleasant smell. I can't be the only one who notices this.

  • ||

    It's Atkins for Catholics. More rules, more guilt.

  • Brett L||

    I'm jealous of your pithiness.

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    And his way with the women!

  • Rasilio||

    "UNC also decreed that no student may "implicitly" or "explicitly" ask for sex. (Then how do students get it?)"

    WTF??????

    Can someone please explain this to me. It is illegal to ask for sex, even indirectly but if you have sex without explicit consent then it is technically rape, wouldn't that effectively criminalize every instance ox sex by UNC students?

    I mean not even Bob Jones University is that strict on student sex.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    Don't try to apply logic to the faithful.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    It's not "illegal", it is merely against the school's "speech code". A violation of said code can only result in dismissal from said school, at worse.

    Jus' sayin'

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Rasilio,

    wouldn't that effectively criminalize every instance ox sex by UNC students?

    Yes. UNC is now officially a monastery.

    Next question?

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    Next question?

    Why did you ignore the part about "ox sex?"

    I mean, too kinky even for me. It's gotta be a big topic here, right?

  • BunkerBill||

    But heterosexual sex is rape, since men and women do not exist in conditions of absolute equality. Only when meateating, capitalist men are replaced with vegetarian, socialist women will heterosexual sex be allowed again, under proper supervision, of course.

  • SKR||

    I volunteer to supervise.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Of course not. Bob Jones University is basing its morals code on a pattern that has been hashed out for 2000 years and arguably has elements as old as the Jewish people. The Academic Thought Police, on the other hand, are making it up as they go along.

  • Clano'6||

    They said asking for sex was off limits, but not demanding it...."You and me, my dorm, 9:00. Be naked." I mean, technically that's ok , there's no asking involved.

  • Pro Libertate||

    If only this distrust of people who provide business services would extend to distrust of people providing government services, our troubles here would soon be at an end.

  • sarcasmic||

    Thanks to several generations of government schooling, most people view government as "us" and corporations as "them".

  • Pro Libertate||

    Businesses have done more for us that any government, ever.

  • sarcasmic||

    Oh, I agree. But the general notion is that government can do anything more efficiently and cheaply than business because government doesn't waste valuable resources on profits. It's completely absurd, I know, but that's what most people believe.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's insane.

  • sarcasmic||

    Economic illiteracy is fashionable.

  • JW||

    Economic illiteracy is fashionable.

    It's also chronic and by choice.

    I have a friend who has been spouting the same marxist, anti-capitalist nonsense for 25 years. I don't even bother with him any more.

  • sarcasmic||

    "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer! Power to the People!"

    Thinking that the government is "The People" and the more power government has, the more power the people have.

    Yes, it's insane.

  • Bean Counter||

    The Rich, (who spend less than they make, invest wisely and spend as much time investigating where to get the highest quality goods for the lowest price as the average person spends watching reality tv) are getting richer and the poor (who go into debt to buy crap that will be obsolete or worn out years before it's paid for, spend far more than they make and buy whatever they see advertised on reality tv) are getting poorer. FIFY

  • Marshall Gill||

    Businesses have done more for us that any government, ever.

    Yes but they were not doing what they did for their fellow man but for selfish and evil profit. Since their motives are not "altruistic" the positive results don't matter.

    It is better for the entire human race to remain in poverty than for some of us to be raised out of poverty without supposedly good intentions.

  • sarcasmic||

    Can't pave the road to hell without those good intentions.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I think that's too charitable. I don't for one second think the leaders in power are dominated by good intentions.

  • ||

    Getting reelected is too a good intention, you asshole.

  • sarcasmic||

    I don't for one second think the leaders in power are dominated by good intentions.

    Allow me to quote Will Smith.

    "Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'Let me do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'"
  • Pro Libertate||

    Good intentions by any rational measure for a "public servant."

    The fact that these people and their parties are motivated by self-interest, usually to the point of total venality, should surprise no one.

  • sarcasmic||

    When I first had the displeasure of roaming the halls of some federal bureaucracy in the course of my work, I noticed that the workers had this odd salutation that involved holding up some number of fingers.
    Finally I discovered that it represented the number of years before they start to collect their pension.

  • buybuydandavis||

    Depends on what one means by good intentions.

    The desire to empower a government to run all our lives for "our own good" is the worst of intentions.

  • fried wylie||

    Can't pave the road to hell without those good intentions.

    I suppose you'd rather live in roadless SOMALIA!!11one, huh smartguy.

    Now grab those good intentions and a shovel, we've roads to pave.

  • Pro Libertate||

    But government isn't remotely altruistic, either. I mean, I know everyone here realizes that, but how could anyone watch the corruption, inefficiency, and other political nonsense year end and year out and not come to the same conclusion?

    At least businesses provide me with a job, food, technology, and virtually everything else important. All they ask for is that I pay them for what they provide. I can even say no or go find a business that does it better!

  • sarcasmic||

    But businesses are run by rich people!

    Rich people!

    I mean, they're rich!

    They must have done something evil to get rich! Like stealing from their customers or their workers!

    They're.... rich!

  • Pro Libertate||

    Rich like the federal government?

  • sarcasmic||

    The federal government is us!
    Rich people are them!
    Besides, they haven't paid their fair share! The greedy bastards! If they paid their fair share then they wouldn't be rich! The fact that they are rich shows that they've been holding out and not sharing their ill-gotten gains with those who truly deserve it!

  • Pro Libertate||

    I wonder what they think when they hear that the top 1% pays 30% of the taxes or some similar metric. Does it even occur to them that that might be a smidgen unfair?

  • sarcasmic||

    The mere existence of the top 1% makes their blood boil. It's simply unfair.
    They need to be taxed into the poor house as a matter of fairness and revenge.

  • Ptah-Hotep||

    Does it even occur to them that that might be a smidgen unfair?

    No. They are rich and can afford it; therefore it is fair.

  • fried wylie||

    Rich like the federal government?

    By stealing from their "customers."

    So what's the difference again between business and the gov't?

    Oh that's right, at least the business/customer relationship is voluntary.

  • Pro Libertate||

    And I, as a customer, get something of value to me for my money.

  • fried wylie||

    And I, as a customer, get something of value to me for my money.

    That was a pretty serious omission on my part. I'm overdue for making another pot of coffee...

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's not so much an omission as a "That goes without saying." Well, it should be that, anyway.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    "Yes but they were not doing what they did for their fellow man but for selfish and evil profit."

    Worse, they are doing in in a way that Western Academic Liberals DISAPPROVE OF. They MUST be evil!

  • Matrix||

    So basically the court has put it like this

    You can't sue the agency because they took no legal action against Cooksey, only threatened him. So any federal agency can write a threatening letter to ANYONE to get them to shut up. If the individuals do stop, then the mission is accomplished. Most will probably end up like this.

    If the individuals do not stop the activity the agency dislikes, then they can pursue actions whether legal or not. Then the individual has to spend lots of money challenging it or paying the levied fines.

    Sounds like a win-win for the government and lose-lose for the individuals.

  • Randian||

    They didn't even find they threatened him, so you are wrong right off the bat.

  • robc||

    As were they (wrong that is).

    Not to rehash, but it absolutely was a threat.

    EVERY government action comes with the implied force of the gun behind it.

  • Randian||

    That is an assertion without legal foundation.

    If you want it to be, that is one thing. But it isn't.

  • robc||

    I dont know what you mean by "legal" foundation. Force is the source of government power. That is indisputable.

  • sarcasmic||

    Every government action, no matter how innocuous, has the potential result in nice men with guns killing you because you refused to come peacefully with them to court.

  • JW||

    As Fluffy noted in the original thread, if Regulation X contains penalties for non-compliance and the agency tells you that you are non-compliant in your actions, an explicit threat has been made.

  • sarcasmic||

    The lawyers always win.

  • ||

    Personally, I blame ProL. And RC.

  • $park¥||

    This is a pretty good catch-all.

  • Pro Libertate||

    We're merely beneficiaries of America's total love of lawyers. Oh, you think people hate us? Then why do they all want to give us so much money, even subverting the entire political and judicial system to do so?

    I'm in a money bath as I dictate this.

  • Ron||

    I told my friend's son to become a lawyer because when times are good people sue to get more and when times are bad they sue to get more. The lawyer is just the broker in between the two parties and is always employed.

  • Pro Libertate||

    There are too damned many new lawyers. I recommend technical fields to my kids. So far, I've got one majoring in engineering.

  • Emperor Wears No Clothes||

    Faux Libertit,
    YOu define "love" differently than I do, obviously.

  • Brett L||

    And the protolawyer. One of the Au guys.

  • R C Dean||

    Don't blame us.

    Really, envy would be more appropriate.

  • buybuydandavis||

    Also, if the individual doesn't stop, the courts will rule that he "willfully and knowingly" violated the law, and throw the book at him.

  • Delroy||

    Okay, so I have a question for you HyR commentors: Do you see professional certifications as a step toward licensing?

    By professional certifications, I mean things like the PMP certification (Project Management Professional) by the Project Management Institute (PMI). I work in project/program management and considered getting the PMP, but I haven't really needed it to get the jobs I've gotten (so far). My impression of the PMP is that it's a scam for PMI to raise funds - they sell the preparatory books and charge the application and testing fees. And to maintain a PMP, you have to earn continuing education credits, so PMP sells training classes and you can earn credit for attending PMI events (more costs). Plus, PMI is in cahoots with other PM training companies (who sell preparatory and continuing ed classes/materials) that become business sponsors of PMI. It's kind of like tv-stereotype drug dealers: once they get you hooked, you have to keep coming back for more.

    I've known people who got the PMP and some of them are idiots when it comes to PM. But if I look at PM job listings, I see "PMP preferred" often listed under requirements. Of course PMI would love to have all high-level PM jobs require a PMP.

  • robc||

    No.

    Private certs are just that. The difference is the same as the difference between an editor and a censor.

  • $park¥||

    When I got into the IT field, certs were better than degrees for determining who knew what they were doing. I think the cert exams can show that you know how to apply your knowledge to real world situations. Plus, when you have set standards that are common to every situation in your business area they are a decent gauge of knowledge.

    All that being said, if people aren't asking you why you're not certified, then don't bother.

  • robc||

    When I got into the IT field, certs were better than degrees for determining who knew what they were doing

    No they werent. Degrees might have been useless, but certs were always at least equally so.

    Funny story about that:
    I got a call from my corporate training pimp (I do corporate training sometimes, but it isnt my main thing, so when she runs across something, she gives me a call) for a very low level course in the area Ive done the majority of my teaching. Ive dont much higher level courses for her, Ive written courseware at a much higher level. When on the phone interviewing with the people who wanted me, they asked me what certs I had.

    I told them, "Ive never gotten any cert in anything, I dont see the point." Silence. They had no idea how to respond. Finally, they said that they required their instructors to at least have the cert for the class being taught. It turned out they were a cert mill who taught to the test and basically prepped so that the students would be able to start on Monday and pass the test for the cert on Friday.

    I didnt get that job, only time Ive ever been turned down for a teaching gig. I dont think I got turned down so much as the class didnt happen, as they sent me the book they used and I got the cert (on their dime, it was a joke, needless to say). The book was a hot mess, to no surprise. Im so glad I didnt end up doing that class.

  • $park¥||

    No they werent. Degrees might have been useless, but certs were always at least equally so.

    Let me put it this way: Of all the people I worked with, the people with certs were the ones who knew what they were doing. In the late '90s, when I got into IT, you could walk into just about any IT job just on the strength of your certs.

  • robc||

    Of all the people I worked with, the ones without any certs were generally the ones that knew what they were doing.

    The order probably goes something like:
    1. No certs, no degree
    2. Degree, no certs
    3. Both
    4. Certs, no degree
    5. No certs, no degree

    Yes, I realize 1 and 5 are the same. :)

    2, 3, and 4 were indistinguishable, in general. For #2, it helps if the degree wasnt in IT.

  • fried wylie||

    Yes, I realize 1 and 5 are the same

    Like the color wheel, this spectrum wraps back around.

  • Rasilio||

    Uh, not sure when you got into the IT field but I can tell you that as a general rule as early as the mid 1990's most people in the field considered certifications to be a joke, largely thanks to the plethora of MCSE's who had to be taught how to send an e-mail with an attachment. That is how the MCSE got it's more accurate but less official name... Minesweeper Champion and Solitare Expert.

  • sarcasmic||

    Sun's Java certs are worth something.

  • Rasilio||

    See my more general comment below where I discuss the relative value of different certs.

    The Sun Java certs are worthwhile because they are vendor provided for a specific product, not a general field of study for which there is no established agreement on terminology or practices. This is not the case for a PMP or similar certifications.

  • sarcasmic||

    Aren't the worthless Microsoft certs vendor provided for a specific product?

  • mgd||

    The specific exams are, yes. But I agree with Rasilio that the certification itself--MCSE, in particular, which was NOT for a specific product--was pretty worthless. MCSE = Must Call Someone Else. MCSE != systems engineer.

  • Brett L||

    You're both right. I had a boss who wouldn't hire people with certs unless their certification date was 5 years after their first IT job. I have yet to find a decent corporate programmer with BS in CS. IS degrees have run the gamut from damfine programmers to "I just showed this guy the on switch", but I've never been able to hire anyone without previous experience based on either a degree or a certification and feel certain of their success based on credentials.

  • Rasilio||

    In my own field (Software QA) I don't rely on either credentials or experience because the credentials are largely a joke or not appropriate (a BS in CS does not mean you know how to test) and far too many people in the field have been doing it so badly for so long.

    I can usually tell in a 20 - 30 minute conversation if they have the right mindset to be a successful tester even if they have never tested software before. The 2 main criteria are do they have a general understanding of how computers and software work and are they capable of creatively thinking about a task. If they can do both of those things I can teach them to be a good tester in less than 3 months.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Delroy,

    Do you see professional certifications as a step toward licensing?

    If a private company requires certain hires to be PMP or PM certified, that is their right as it is their money.

    Licensing means that it is government who sets the requirements and standards, regardless of market preferences.

    One is voluntary - you can choose not to certify yourself and still be a Project Manager at a company that does not require such certification. The other is FORCE - you CANNOT have a business that requires licensing if you do not apply for a license, under threat of bodily harm.

  • Delroy||

    I appreciate and understand all your replies. The CURRENT situation is that the PMP is a private cert and it's each company's choice to use it as a differentiator. What I potentially see is a prof org like PMI going to the government and saying, "Shouldn't there be a law that anyone who works in the PM field MUST have a PMP?" They could justify it by pointing to the prevelance of PMPs being hired for such jobs.

    My problem is that it's another mindless way to skinny down the job applicants - like how lack of a college degree is used to eliminate applicants. While it might be true that the AVERAGE PMP has greater knowledge than the AVERAGE non-PMP applicant, it doesn't apply to individuals.

  • Delroy||

    To continue my concern about the lead into licensing - it's about the money. It seems that the existing businesses get the government to pass a law for license requirements to prevent competition.

    Likewise, I can see the PMI-affiliated training businesses, and PMI itself, seeing government sanction as a way to protect/maintain their income streams.

  • EDG reppin' LBC||

    It seems that the existing businesses get the government to pass a law for license requirements to prevent competition.

    Hey Delroy. I don't recognize your handle, so maybe you are new here? Anyway, there is a succinct term for the concept you are asking about: Rent-seeking. Here is the link to the Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_seeking

    Private certifications are perfectly fine in libertopia, whereas licensing schemes enforced by The State are not.

  • Delroy||

    Thanks. I'm not new - just don't comment often. I've been a regular reader of HyR for years. Before registration was required, I'd comment occasionally, but didn't use a consistent handle. The registration requirement forced me to select Delroy as my handle.

    Yes, I guess I am thinking that certain private certifications may lead to rent-seeking. I'm not against private certifications; I'm just against the idiocy that automatically equates a certification with "a better employee."

    I guess I'm just generally opposed to idiots.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I first read that as "PIMP", an reading that was infinitely more entertaining.

  • amelia||

    It could happen. In many professions, certification boards end up seeking the backing of the state eventually. Smarter states at least allow the private organization to continue doing the testing rather than taking on the hassle themselves. But if certification is mandated by the state, in effect it is a license. My profession recently got my state to require our certification but they are pushing for licensure. I don't know why they want to invite the state to interfere now that they have mandated certification...well, I do know but I really wish they would not go that route.

  • Pound. Head. On. Desk.||

    Not that I've used it in decades, but I have a Virginia PE license. No, not "Phys Ed," but "Professional Engineer." And I went through a lot if rigamarole to get it. I can (legally and properly, according to standard practices) sign off on designs and processes that have nothing to do with my areas of study, but cannot be approved by people who actually have real expertise in those areas, but haven't jumped through the licensing hoops. IOW, it's crap.

  • fried wylie||

    Note to self, avoid all structures in VA.

  • Rasilio||

    The overwhelming majority of IT certificates really are just a scam. They are a simplistic way for HR drones to whittle down the candidate list because they have no idea what it is that a real PM does or how to spot someone who would be good at the job so they need something to base their decisions. More often than not even the hiring managers as well.

    The few exceptions I know of are always product specific and issued by the product vendor(Oracle DBA, Peoplesoft, MCSD, etc.) because they do not try to teach you general trends for which there is no industry standardization, rather they teach you the inner workings of a very specific product.

    As far as a danger that it could be a stepping stone to licensing requirements, I suppose it can happen but I really don't see it ever happening in the IT field because too many companies would revolt as they don't want to mess with certifications for their employees.

  • Loki||

    "A dozen states don't have any licensure requirements for nutritionists," said Sherman. "Are people in those states more in danger than people in North Carolina?"

    NC is currently the 13th fattest state. So I'm going to go with no.

  • ||

    The 12 fatter states must be the ones without licenses.

  • Loki||

    Unless of course the 12 fattest states are also the ones that don't have licensure requirements.

  • ||

    PWND

  • Loki||

    Yep, you got me.

    FYI, it looks like MI is the only one ahead of NC that doesn't require some kind of regulation (licence, certification, or regulation), so I still stand by my original answer of "no".

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Thanks to several generations of government schooling, most people view government as "us" and corporations as "them".

    The last person who pulled that, "The government is US!" crap on me was only saved from physical assault by his advanced age. His obnoxious I'm the smartest guy in the room act causes me to avoid him like the plague whenever possible, but once in a while he sneaks up on me.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Are you sure he didn't say, "The government is pus?"

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Government is a plus size.

  • ||

    Maybe he was trying to tell us it's a cookbook?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Yeah, maybe he said, "Soylent Green is people!" I hope not, because I had some for lunch.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Are you sure he didn't say, "The government is pus?"

    Pure.

    He said, "The government is pure and fine and represents all that is good and noble about us. And, purely by coincidence, I work for a lot of 'non-profit' organizations which pay me handsomely for my expertise in obtaining government grants. The government funnels money from the many to... me. Us, working together to enrich me. That what makes government special. That's why you should pay your fair share."

  • The Late P Brooks||

    All I know is, Without government, THERE WOULD BE NO PIE.

  • buybuydandavis||

    You didn't bake that!

  • ||

    1) THE PALEO DIET WORKS. i've seen so many friends and gymmates make great gym gains AND body composition changes when switching to paleo. it's not rocket science. it's just REAL food - iow ditch the overly processed, sugar laden crap. ditch the genetically modified (e.g. wheat) crap. eat meat, fruits, vegetables, etc. it works. people can get a bit cultish with it, but that's a feature almost, not a bug. because people help reinforce others to maintain their adherence to the lifestyle

    2) the ironic thing is that MD's are allowed to give nutritional advice, and they have FAR less training in nutrition, then the average personal trainer. when i did personal training, i had a client who was an anesthesiologist. guy had medical school etc. training in the THOUSANDS of hours of course. but literally almost ZERO nutritional training. but the govt. has never come down on MD's. hmm...

    3) there are few more basic freedoms than the freedom to eat whatever you want, free from govt. intrusion (cue: soda ban, transfat ban, etc.). corollary to that freedom is the freedom to spout YOUR interpretation of what is good for you, what isn't, iow to talk smack about nutrition and food. woe the day when "eat this bubby, it's good for you" requires a govt. LICENSE

  • buybuydandavis||

    "UNC also decreed that no student may "implicitly" or "explicitly" ask for sex. (Then how do students get it?)"

    And if you haven't asked, and haven't gotten a legal consent form signed in triplicate, it's clearly rape.

    Really, you can't ask? This can't be true, can it?

  • Agile Cyborg||

    FCK Feminism. They are no better than the hardcore misogynist. Cancers seem to live on the horizon of the free and open society, folks... As a lifeLONG student of Nazi/genocide/dictatorship history we are laying the foundations for the future of the mass human puppet fashioned from social plastic. Impregnated with that which is immediately submissive and weak. NO fringe. NO richness. NO diversity. ALL that deviates dies... Yes, feminism has a part to play in this degradation along with the hardcore authoritarian, religious supremacist, and totalitarian militarist. Feminism COULD be riddled with evolutionary intellectualism. It has decided to yield to the bullet in its lust for domination over the male. Misplaced... In the end it will rot alongside the the other Lusts to Dominate until the race becomes an earthly scourge... Trust me, one nuke, one addled pol, ONE prime mover in human flesh... The planet reels and we all will grieve that day we bore children. I envision a dark future. Humans have overgrown their luck with that which evolves above other animals.

  • شات عراقنا||

    thank you

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