Mayor Bloomberg: Breastfeed or Else

Bloomberg enthusiastically favors breastfeeding infants. But he is not content to simply express his view for your consideration.

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Breastfeeding zealots downplay the numerous factors that cause mothers to supplement breast milk with formula or to give up nursing altogether—pain, inadequate lactation, job demands and illnesses requiring medications that infants should avoid.

Bloomberg can't know the unique circumstances and alternatives confronted by individual women. They can. They also have even more stake than he does in the health and well-being of their children. So he should grant great deference to their choices.

As a rule, it's a good idea for the government to stay off our backs. Fronts, too.

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  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    It's almost like "my body, my choice" only applies to one thing in the whole goddamned world.

  • JW||

    The meta-choice zone begins and ends at the uterine wall.

    All choices outside this zone are considered null and void.

  • Father Jack||

    I wonder if BloomingIdiot would like to feckin' cock-feed for a few moments?

  • Marshall Gill||

    Just what I was thinking.

    As long as you're having sex, he'll respect your privacy. If that sex produces a baby, it's a different story.

    You should have said, "as long as it produces a baby which you want". If you desire to "terminate your pregnancy" (aren't euphemisms wonderful?) he will continue to respect your "privacy".

  • $park¥||

    Apparently it's alright to force people to do things, as long as you're forcing them to do the right things.

  • ||

    Caption Contest

    "Huge ... tracks of land!"

  • Rich||

    "And here, to show you how it's done, is my good friend Chuck Schumer!"

  • some guy||

    "This is me, strangling a very, very fat man. Notice my lack of emotion."

  • Rich||

    If you want to use infant formula in the hospital, you will have to ask a nurse for it. The nurse will be required to deliver a grim lecture on why you are making a mistake. If you persist, the formula will be taken from its locked location, but the staff will have to sign it out, keep records on its distribution and forward the information to the health department.

    Or, just get baby a can from your stash under the bed. However, that might land *you* in a "locked location".

  • Anonymous Coward||

    In the true spirit of the nanny state, Bloomie not only wants to acclimate people to the teat (especially the government kind), but dictate when, where, and how the teat can be administered.

  • ||

    Why does the goddamned mayor have any opinion on the subject of breastfeeding? Isn't that kind of creepy? What other personal, bodily function-type choices does he have enthusiastic opinions about? Actually, this being Bloomberg, I really don't want to know the answer to that.

  • SugarFree||

    By encouraging breast-feeding, Bloomburg is hoping to get a long-awaited glimpse of Schumer's magnificent man-hooters.

  • ||

    Bitchtits Schumer's nipple hairs getting caught in your teeth does not replace flossing, Bloomie.

  • John||

    Remember men have no right to have an opinion on abortion. But the male mayor of New York has a right to insist on how women feed their babies.

  • #||

    Whenever anyone ever uses that line, I respond then I guess women aren't allowed to have opinions on war/ the draft.

  • wareagle||

    it's not the opinion so much as the desire to use the force of govt to enforce it. Your question about other bodily functions is both potentially comical and frightening.

  • ||

    Just in case we needed yet another reminder we are in post-reductio America.

  • wareagle||

    in Bloomy world, these things are trial balloons - what can I get away with today that will help make tomorrow's intrusion easier to get through?

  • ||

    I wonder what his opinion is on vaginal yeast infections? Or pre-menstrual syndrome? Or cottage cheese ass?

  • Loki||

    I'm sure he has some interesting opinions on the subject of ass to mouth I'd not like to hear about ever.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    Parents shouldn't have any part in raising children. They should all be raised in state-run institutions for their own protection.

  • The Ghost of Sigmund Freud||

    Correct. Parents are nothing but trouble.

  • Bee Tagger||

    They just don't understand this, either.

  • Whahappan?||

    It takes a village!

  • Longtorso||

    Epi was breast fed just last week and his IQ hasn't gone up.

  • Rich||

  • WTF||

    I thought you were going to go for this.

  • Robert||

    Coincidentally, she y her son will soon be comparing my bubble mixture against their previously tested Dolphin Organics bubble bath in The Great Bubble-Off.

  • ||

    That's because it was his own breast.

  • JW||

    The Human La-Lechepede?

  • ||

    Well played, sir.

  • Brian from Texas||

    There are several 'Recall Bloomberg' sites on the Internet, but they seem single-issue driven and divided. One site wants to remove Bloomberg from office because he stood up for the rights of American Muslims to have houses of worship. That the ONLY THING Bloomgerg's done that I agree with!

  • wareagle||

    you are purposely misrepresenting the mosque issue. It was about location, period. NYC is no stranger to mosques; the dispute was over the proposed site.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    irrelevant. As long as the land was purchased legally (and without ED) i don't give a damn if a mosque is built on top of the capitol building.

  • wareagle||

    of course, it's relevant. It was the sum total of the opposition. What truly is irrelevant is your opinion about the argument.

    If you are going to state that someone is for or against something, be intellectually honest enough to include the basis for the support or opposition.

  • Cliché Bandit||

    I made no statement about anyones position. You have demonstrated the inability to perform basic reading comprehension. Opinions are part of life, learn to deal.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Yeah, people are only protesting mosques that are too close to Ground Zero, like the one in Temecula, California.

    http://features.pewforum.org/m.....he-us.html

  • Tulpa Doom||

    You have a technical point, but (a) that issue is well-known enough that repeating the details is not as important, and (b) the details don't make the position any less reprehensible.

  • Bill Dalasio||

    Meh. Frankly, his grandstanding made the issue more of an issue than it needed to be. A perfunctory, "Whatever we think about the idea of a mosque so close to ground zero, we should celebrate that we live in a society that respects religuious liberty enoough to tolerate the notion..." would have at least kept emotions in check. Instead he spouts off basically calling opponents of the mosque bigots and intolerant troglodytes.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    If you think a mosque, in and of itself, has something to do with 9/11, you're a bigot.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Yes, but sometimes it's not a good idea to come out and state that fact.

  • ||

    How anyone could have gotten the idea that 9/11 had something to do with Islam is totally beyond me...

  • Bill Dalasio||

    No one thought a mosque, in and of itself, had something to do with 9/11. I think a lot of people think that Islam did have a little bit to do with it. And an Islamic symbol (and I'd say a mosque qualifies as an Islamic religious symbol) right near the site of the Trade Center is going to stir up some pretty heated emotions, not all of them ignorant or bigoted. Some of them simply hurt. Some of them offended at the attack. A competent leader is going to at least try to cool those emotions and at least try to appeal to people's discernment and decency, rather than whack his weanie about how much more enlightened and tolerant he is, like some pompous prick on an internet message board.

  • aelhues||

    So, I suppose it's best for both mother and child, if for some reason they can't manage breast feeding, for us to make sure the mom realizes her abject failure is going to doom her child's future.

    Brilliant.

    Politicians is stupid!

  • ||

    You clearly weren't breastfed.

  • Ptah-Hotep||

    Their motives are doubtless sincere.

    I somehow doubt that.

  • ||

    Bloomberg the Tit Nanny. What a douche canoe.

  • AL Haines||

    Bloomberg the Public Health Crusader rides again.

    I'm (now) a f/t mom who breastfed all of my kids for a year. Good for me, because I could do it. I worked full time for a few months while my first child was an infant. Getting on a pumping schedule and coordinating my work duties was tough. I knew lots of working mothers who just couldn't make it happen. Now we have 2 and I'm 2 weeks away from having 3 so I stay home, costs less that way. How many women have that option?

    Is Bloomy really set to force women of every socioeconomic niche into the gymnastic efforts it takes to pump and store milk while working? It is not easy. Being home with your kids is best IMO, but I'm not about to force that opinion or situation on a woman who has to work to make ends meet, whether those ends mean weekly meals or payments on a third luxury car.

  • AL Haines||

    Other things I can think of that are "best for baby," depending on which studies you read or whom you quote:

    - choosing a father with a high IQ
    - being married to the father of the baby
    - living in proximity to family members who can help you take care of your child
    - not letting them watch TV
    - only allowing them to watch "educational" programming
    - not attending state-run schools at any age
    - public, creative-curriculum daycare from 6 weeks old
    - orthopedic support shoes
    - never wearing shoes, period
    - eating vegetarian, vegan even better
    - eating purely Paleo, no dairy ever
    - positive parenting and never saying "No"
    - regular beatings to enforce good behavior

    The list goes on. Which policy will he enforce?

  • Marshall Gill||

    not attending state-run schools at any age

    This is objectively best for the child. No doubt. It is simply unpossible for under-educated over entitled "teachers" to provide anything positive.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Other things I can think of that are "best for baby," depending on which studies you read or whom you quote:

    I would think that "Not aborting the baby" should be pretty high on that list.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Or low, depending.

  • wareagle||

    Is Bloomy really set to force women of every socioeconomic niche into the gymnastic efforts it takes to pump and store milk while working?

    of course, he is and if I'm not mistaken, a provision in Obamacare helps with this by requiring that employers have rooms where nursing mothers can pump.

  • AL Haines||

    My workplace did have those rooms and were accommodating of my schedule, to a point. But my productivity went down. You need about 20 minutes every 2-3 hours to pump enough milk to keep lactating and increase the quantity of milk as baby gets older. That's a lot of lost time. I was not completely worthless to my employer (at least, they told me everything was OK with my work), but I was faced with a choice at one point: be a mom, or be a worker. I did not want to do both, so I chose "mom" and never looked back.

    Some women will not be able to make that choice and might not be able to keep up the pumping (which can hurt, BTW).

    I thought baby formula was another item on the long list of things that was supposed to liberate women from their roles as wives and mothers. I'm conservative on the family front and don't like the idea of formula and daycare separating moms from their babies, but as I said, that's my personal choice and not one that ought to be forced by fiat on other women.

  • wareagle||

    In Bloomy-world, choices are made for you. Because the state knows best. As it is, there is a fair chunk of the sisterhood that views your choice with disdain even though, as you said, you chose what was best for you.

  • BCG||

    I had a very lovely room to pump in. But NOTHING would change the fact that a solid 30 minutes of pumping with a hospital grade pump would yield about three ounces of milk. So two pumping sessions a day would get me not enough milk to fill a bottle. I would have loved to feed the kid nothing but boob juice, but it wasn't happening. Why, exactly, should I feel guilty for choosing formula to supplement? I'm with AL, don't force your choices on others.

  • Danneskjold||

    The choice is already being forced, hence the push for this change. Currently the hospitals are pushing the formula with a "grim" sales pitch because they're paid to do so. The only thing changing is that the force is being removed, which is libertarian, as it protects the new mother in her delicate state from being taken advantage of. Now, formula is a choice, and new moms don't have to have it forced onto them or have it slipped into their bag, which in my opinion, is protecting the individual, which is the embodiment of libertarianism.

  • ||

    Allowing reps from formula companies to give patients a free bag of samples when they leave the hospital != forcing women to beg for formula after a stern lecture. One involves force. The other doesn't. See the difference? Probably not...

  • Danneskjold||

    Breastfeeding is not being forced on you. The only thing changing is they're no longer allowed to force formula on you. Currently, they're shoving formula on new moms even when they tell the doctors and nurses that they plan to breasfeed. Why? Because they're paid to do so. They're paid to force formula on new moms in a delicate state against their will. Of course, the new moms can just throw the formula away, but it's still a racket. If you want some formula, ask for it or buy some. Are you really okay with the hospital forcing formula on new moms because it's too inconvenient for you to ask for some? Libertarians are supposed to be against force the last time I checked. This is a move to protect mothers from that force. Nobody is taking their formula away, hospitals just aren't allowed to violate their delicate patients trust now.

  • ||

    The problem is that you seem to have no clue what the word "Force" actually means. When you're given a free can of formula because the nice people at Similac paid the hospital to give it to you, no force is involved. You can decline it, throw it in the trash can, or whatever you want.

    When you're sternly lectured about your choice in feeding your baby and made to beg for a can of formula which is kept under lock and key and accounted for like dangerous prescription medication, force is involved. Providing more options is not force. Reducing options is.

  • Llama Face||

    One could always donate the free samples that the hospital forcibly made you take home to a local charity that collects baby items for indigent mothers. At least until that becomes illegal.

  • JW||

    Is Bloomy really set to force women of every socioeconomic niche into the gymnastic efforts it takes to pump and store milk while working?

    To facilitate breast feeding, the city will install public breast pumps next to electric car charging stations.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    How many women have that option?

    Every woman has the option to have only children she can afford to stay home and care for. And to teach them not to end sentences with prepositions or begin them with conjunctions.

  • AL Haines||

    Yes, of course not having children she cannot afford is the responsible course of action. Reality tells a different story.

    I can envision a system where the heroic, independent single moms will be given welfare checks to stay home and nurse their babies, have their rent and utilities paid and food provided for them, all while maintaining the illusion that they are doing it all alone with no one to help them!

    The expansion of the welfare state continues, unabated.

  • Ramjet||

    I cannot think of a single thing this idiot would not micromanage. What a fascist jerk.

  • JW||

    "I cannot think of a single thing this idiot would not micromanage fuck up."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Bloomberg is in the pocket of Big Breast.

  • Rich||

    Bloomberg is in the pocket nursing bra of Big Breast.

    FTFY

  • Tulpa Doom||

    Aren't we all.

  • John||

    Bloomburg is just othering victims of breast cancer and those women who can't for whatever reason breast feed.

  • sarcasmic||

    Just as banning Chick-Fil-a creates jobs and increases the tax base, think of all the jobs that will be created if formula manufacturers are put out of business!

    Go Bloomburg!

    Wait a minute...

  • CPBrown||

    The pro breast feeding posters should have a photo of Bloomberg with the subscript:

    "Big Boob is Watching You"

  • Loki||

    I get the feeling that maybe Bloomie wasn't breast fed when he was a baby, so now he's trying deperately to make up for it. "As long as I'm mayor, no baby will go without the tit for any reason! Tits for all!"

  • temmseee||

    There is a dude that seems to be blowing a LOT of hot air lol.
    www.Ano-Web.tk

  • Corneliusm||

    These bots seem to be frighteningly relevant (even if uninsightful). Is there a script that automatically parses "Bloomberg" out of the article and automatically picks the one-liner about hot air?

    Just curious.

  • Robert||

    What are the odds that a randomized prospective trial will ever be done on this? Yeah, I guess pretty good, considering "ever" is a long time. But although compared to many prospective nutrition studies, this would be an easy one to do (babies' feedings being so controlled anyway, not like they'd be sneaking snacks), I'm afraid IRBs would consider any randomized study design unethical, paradoxically because they've already decided breast is best.

  • doctormac||

    Why wait? There are tons of studies already out there comparing formula feeding to breastfeeding in a variety of settings (at risk for HIV, preemies, effects on obesity, etc). http://scholar.google.com/scho.....s_sdt=0,45 We already know scientifically that it's better. We also know that when new mothers get free formula from the corporations that make it, they are more likely to choose formula over breastfeeding.

    Obviously Reason has their slant on all of this, and I understand that. However, to say that this makes it impossible (or even difficult) for moms to choose formula is greatly misrepresenting it. You don't get free stuff from the formula companies trying to influence your decision. You have to ask for formula instead of someone offering it to you. Past that? No changes. If nurses have to sign out formula is that a burden on them and somewhat over the top? Yes, but that isn't going to change what patients experience. You ask for formula, they bring it to you. Big deal.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    You missed the part about the stern lecture from the nurse.

    Last I heard, you get free "formula" from that most pervasive corporation of all, Mother Nature, too. So getting free formula from the eeeeeevil corporations is just balancing the scales, isn't it?

  • doctormac||

    Obvious trolling aside... yes, this would balance the scales if they continued to provide it for free. Shockingly, however, after the free canister is used up you get to pay for it. A lot. Or, if you're in WIC, we ALL get to pay for it. Hooray.

    And the "stern lecture from a nurse" is obviously a rather non-neutral way to describe what is a voluntary (about half the NYC hospitals do it, half don't) educational moment for a new mom. http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/do.....iption.pdf

    It's about normalizing human biology when we have somehow turned it over to food corporations unnecessarily. Obviously we need choices and options, but if hospitals are supposed to be places of health and healing, and we as doctors are supposed to do what evidence tells us is best, shouldn't we be trying to promote that?

  • ||

    Right, just like how you have a nurse lecture AIDS patients who are hospitalized about the dangers of sharing needles and having anal sex before handing out the condoms and free needles which are kept under lock and key and only provided upon request. Musn't let Big Prophylactics intrude into the practice of medicine.

  • Llama Face||

    "We also know that when new mothers get free formula from the corporations that make it, they are more likely to choose formula over breastfeeding."

    How do we know this? I really don't think we do. According to the CDC's 2012 breastfeeding report card, breastfeeding rates are up. They report that 47% of US mothers breastfeed for at least six months, and 77% attempt to breastfeed. I don't see that as mothers being "more likely" at all, considering that breastfeeding rates are rising. In fact, I think that would indicate that women are more likely to choose breastfeeding these days.

    Further, how is it worse to have an anonymous formula company trying to influence your feeding decision by giving you free stuff (which you can opt not to take) then it is to have a pushy doctor or nurse trying to influence your decision while you're held hostage in their establishment?

  • Llama Face||

    I am also very skeptical about these studies. Sure, they claim that formula is bad and causes all sorts of health problems, but the exceptions to these "truths" are far too numerous and notable for the study to be treated as more than scientific suggestion. There are far too many formula-fed people who are healthy, not obese, don't have diabetes, and who have high IQ's for one not to be skeptical.

    Personally, I find the attitude that people are not capable of making good decisions for themselves and their children, and that they should just shut up do what the MD says very obnoxious. Your degree gives you the skills to do a job, but it does not confer on you the right to offer your unsolicited opinion when people don't right to offer your unsolicited opinion when people don't particularly want it. If I want to know what the doctor thinks I should do, I'll ask him and then pay him for his answer. Until then, the doctor should leave me alone.

    Are you also advocating that they take the diaper and baby shampoo samples out of the swag bags, so that evil diaper companies can't influence women into choosing disposables over the environmentally friendly cloth diapers?

  • Ron||

    Of course this ignores the fact that many new mothers in hospital are on some form of medication , mainly pain, and they don't want to transfer that chemical into their newborn. But then Bloomberg would probably be happy to have a batch of addicted babies to take care of from cradle to grave.

  • Mainer2||

    63 comments and no one at this sausage fest caught this:

    "express his view"

    I don't have kids and I lol'ed out loud at that.

  • BMFPitt||

    What, one of his staffers talked him out of requiring a transvaginal ultrasound in order to get formula?

  • Danneskjold||

    What is wrong with having to ask for the formula? Nobody seems to care that right now hospitals get bonuses by forcing the formula on mothers whether they want it or not. The article paints it as a "grim lecture", but that's already happening with a pushy sales pitch. I guess the article was a bit sparse on those details, but it's true, that the hospital will slip the formula into your bag even if you tell them you want to breastfeed. It's not unlike a Best Buy employee slipping Norton Antivirus in your cart after you've already told him no, because he gets a bonus (happened to me both times I bought a computer there). The only thing that has changed is having to ask, which given the health state of new mothers, is protecting them from being taken advantage of for money.

  • ||

    A free container of formula provided by teh evil corporashuns != a "pushy sales pitch". You are free to take the can of formula and pour it down the sink or throw it out the window if you want. It doesn't force a choice upon anyone, it doesn't infringe on the existing choices of anyone, and it doesn't take advantage of anyone. Giving something away doesn't require force. Only taking something away does. Requiring women to undergo a lecture and then have their baby formula brought to them via the same control procedures that were used to dispense the epidural they were given during labor is restrictive - it relies on force. That you can't tell the difference makes your moniker rather hilarious.

  • Chattanooga Home Inspecti||

    We know how important breastfeeding is. It is one of the most nutritious milk that you can give to your kids.

  • AlgerHiss||

    Has Bloomberg ever dated Graydon Carter?

  • Stick||

    Why is this cunt still in power?

  • Ardelle||

    In other hospitals in other cities, parents who are checking out get free bags, provided by formula companies, containing formula and other items of possible use to parents. That won't be allowed in the 27 New York hospitals operating under the Bloomberg rules. You want formula? Go buy it, somewhere else, if you dare.

  • Pippers||

    "The old axiom says conservatives want to keep the government out of your wallet and liberals want to keep it out of your bedroom. On the latter point, Bloomberg begs to differ."

    Bloomberg is a Republican...

  • Pippers||

    I'm sorry, I meant "Independent". *wink wink*

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Titsucking is a primitive, unsophisticated behavior. The sight of other than hot chicks doing it makes me cringe.

  • galiana||

    While this is not the main reason for my recent departure from NYC, it's definitely a contributing factor. New York is essentially closing its borders to the sane and middle class through asinine regulations like this. 1970s Fear City, here we come.

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