A Jewish Case for Mel Gibson

If Roman Polanski and Sean Penn can find work in Hollywood, why not Mel?

It seems that we American Jews have a sacred duty. It has nothing to do with skullcaps or boiling a goat in its mother's milk. No. It is our obligation to be perpetually offended and hypersensitive, lest something terrible happen.

So naturally, when former movie star and director Mel Gibson announced that he will be involved in producing a movie about the life of Jewish icon Judas Maccabaeus, community indignation was ramped up. God knows, Gibson had already declared that Jews had started "all wars," during a DUI arrest a couple of years back. He later apologized, calling it "a moment of insanity" and a "public humiliation on a global scale." But surely, a person doesn't spontaneously break into Jew-baiting unless there is some underlying animosity. When you're on the back end of a two-day bender, does it ever occur to you to harangue members of the Greek Orthodox Church? I thought not.

But if there's anything more irritating than listening to a slightly insane and very angry celebrity who is stupid drunk, it's listening to self-appointed Jewish leaders be offended for me.

The media rushed to make sense of this peculiar movie project by, as they always do, seeking out professionally aggrieved Jews, such as Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, who explained: "Casting him as a director or perhaps as the star of (a film about Judas Maccabaeus) is like casting (Bernie) Madoff to be the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission or a white supremacist as trying to portray Martin Luther King Jr. It's simply an insult to Jews."

Then there was the Anti-Defamation League's Abe Foxman, who once called Gibson "the portrait of an anti-Semite" and who is the leading voice of the distressed American Jew—and don't we suffer! He claimed that seeing as Gibson's "previous attempt to bring biblical history to life on the screen (with The Passion of The Christ) was marred by anti-Semitism," this one has no shot.

Well, there are certainly plenty of places in the world to find dangerous, theologically embedded anti-Semitism—with Beverly Hills being low on the list. And sure, Gibson's words were ugly. But if a Polish director who drugged and sexually assaulted a 13-year-old can cast stars in his films, find funding, and win Oscars, why not Mel? If Jeff Spicoli can buddy up with a fleshy two-bit dictator and continue to find work, why not Mel? If Al Sharpton—a man whose vile and consequential anti-Semitism has incited violence, destruction, and social unrest—has a TV show funded by NBC, why not Mel?

And as strange as it seems, artistically speaking, the Jews could use Gibson on this one. The story of Hanukkah isn't only the tale of miraculous candles and Christmas envy, you know. It's about slaying unarmed Hellenistic interlopers and taking names (afterward). It is about populist Jewish rebellion, the unsheathing of theocratic swords and the struggle for freedom (Jewish freedom, anyway). Surely, this kind of material can't be entrusted to some hand-wringing, weak-kneed director who will slather his Jewish liberal sensibilities all over history. Have you seen Steven Spielberg's Munich? No, we need crazy on this.

Charles Dickens, Edmund Burke, Virginia Woolf, and Edgar Degas, to name very few, had some bad words for the Jews on occasion. But we can put these things in perspective. You can love the art (or whatever this movie will be classified as) and believe that the creator might be in need of psychiatric help or even that he might just be a bad guy. It doesn't always diminish the art. There are limits, of course, but if I stopped watching actors and directors who spewed absurdity, I would have, for instance, missed the entire Jason Bourne series.

Actually, I would have missed a lifetime of popular culture and art.

David Harsanyi is a columnist at
The Blaze. Follow him on Twitter @davidharsanyi.

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  • Spencer||

    We should always separate art from the artist.

  • ||

    I'm perfectly happy to do that, right up to the point where they open their big, fat mouth.

    Entertain me, entertainer. If I want shallow political opinions, I'll go to a bar.

  • { }||

    If I want shallow political opinions, I'll go to a bar blog.

    That's right! Entertainers, unlike blog commentators, are not entitled to their opinions!

  • .||

    Only after you start paying commenters for their internet prose will you be in a position to complain about their pontification.

  • ||

    Is Mel Gibson a thing anymore? I thought once he proved South Park correct on his craziness, we could all move on.

  • ||

    My wife and I watched "Edge of Darkness" on HBO - as soon as it was over I said "damn, I forgot how good he is." He pulled off a believable character dealing with the loss of a child.

  • ||

    What should it matter? Gibson is a talented film maker. I bet his version of the Maccabees will kick ass. I love biblical epics and wish Hollywood would start making them again.

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    I agree. I liked Passion of the Christ, Apocalypto and The Beaver. So late Gibson has been plenty enjoyable.

    I'm not Jewish, but I'll play my own race card and I say I can relate to Harsanyi on this.

  • ||

    A Mel Gibson film about Judas Maccabaeus? I'll be there on opening day.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Woed. I hope Christopher Lee plays Judas.

  • AlmightyJB||

    and word.

  • Realist||

    "I love biblical epics and wish Hollywood would start making them again."
    That's because you're a thumper.

  • ||

    That is because I am not an ignorant philistine like you are.

  • Realist||

    But you are a stupid fuck!

  • ||

    And you are an uneducated, uncultured philistine and an embarrassment to Western culture.

  • Not far enough||

    Just Western culture? Realist is an embarrassment to any culture.

  • ||

    Seriously, is it possible for you to be more of an ignorant fuck even if you tried?

  • Realist||

    You believe in a sky daddy and you call me an ignorant fuck?
    What does your sky dady think about the word FUCK???

  • Realist||

    ...or sky daddy....same stupid fair tale shit!

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    To answer your question, John: I hope not. Also, 'Realist', I know many great people who are atheists, but you just seem like a dick.

  • ||

    If you can't appreciate the literay value of the bible, you are an ignorant fuck. It has nothing to do with belief. I am not a Hindu, but I can still appreciate the Bhagavad Gita as art. Same principle here.

    Seriously, when you wake up in the morning do you have any idea what an ignorant, uncultured, uneducated fuck you are? The worse snake handling, faith healing fundie, probably has better cultural awareness and appreciation than you do. You are just a pathetic dolt.

  • Zuo||

    +1

    You are a lying hypocrit if you like made up shit like LOTR and Star Wars (I do), and then act like a little fag asshole when it comes to similar stories that come from religious literature.

  • ||

    The Bible is also one of the most valuable historical resources we have. Believe the religious stuff or not - much of the history has been proven.

    Many a lazy archeologist made a big name for himself in the 20th Century by reading the Old Testament and digging where it says ancient battles took place or cities were supposedly existed.

  • ||

    IIRC, a British officer serving in Palestine was able to outflank an enemy and win a battle based on a hidden road described in the Bible. I can't recall any specifics. I saw it on the History Channel.

  • Realist||

    You better settle down before you blow a blood vessel and make me happy!

  • ||

    That's because you're a thumper.

    I am an atheist and I would go see a Gibson made blood and guts biblical epic any day of the week.

    I would also see a movie made by Gibson about the conquest of Mecca by Mohammad....in fact come to think of it this hypothetical movie MUST be made.

    Also if Gibson does not make it Ridley Scott should.

  • ||

    Sadly they would never do it. But I bet Gibson could make one hell of a Mohammad biopic.

  • Zuo||

    DUDE. DUDE.

    Mel Gibson has attained the perfect amount of insanity to portray Muhammed. The "night trip" to Jerusalem, the cave sessions where he got his prophecies. The angry religious fervor. The rallying of his fanatics to battle. Zomg.

  • ||

    Wow would that be a fun watch - raped 9-year-olds, massacred cities, captives sold into slavery... Not sure how you put a happy ending on it.

  • ||

    That would be incredible.

  • AblueSilkworm||

    I would pawn my Fountain of Orphan's Tears to finance this.

  • Steven||

    Sip, sip, sippin' on orphan tears

  • R||

    I don't think they (or anyone else) would touch a biopic of Muhammad. Not unless they have a death wish, that is.

  • ||

    I would suggest Matt Damn or Sean Penn to play the ol' pedophile himself.

  • cynical||

    Not really, you don't have to believe in the Bible to recognize that some of its storylines are movie-worthy.

  • ||

    "Say what you want about Mel Gibson, but the son of a bitch knows story structure!"

  • Colin||

    Charles Dickens, Edmund Burke, Virginia Woolf, and Edgar Degas, to name very few, had some bad words for the Jews on occasion.

    Actually it's difficult to find a pre-WWII writer who wrote about the Jews in a positive light. Off the top of my head, I can think only of Boccaccio and Potocki.

  • sarcasmic||

    Anti-semitism was quite fashionable until some German dude took it too far.

  • O2||

    thats just koch fearmongering to foam the wingnutz

  • teh rael o2||

    ^spoof failz^

  • teh rael o2||

    cuz i really likes teh JOOOS!!

  • o2 reelz||

    teh awsum spuuf thred!11!!

  • ||

    Nietztche had positive things to say about Jewish persons.

  • ||

    How did Marx feel about em'?

  • PIRS||

    I think I read somewhere that it was actually his sister who was the antisemite and edited his papers after he went into the political prison - umhmm - excuse me - umhmm - I mean mental health facility. He himself may have criticized Judaism as a religion - but he also criticized Christianity as a religion. He had more respect in general for pagan religions than in any Abrahamic religion.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    His defenders basically say, "it's OK because he only denounced Judaism in order to get at his real target: Christianity." Oh, that's all right, then!

  • AblueSilkworm||

    Well, actually, yes. Yes it is. It means it is likely that he had a problem with the religious tradition, and not with Jews "racially". Am I wrong about that?

  • Steven||

    Nietzsche didn't espouse any racialist theories. He had problems with the moral ideas of most religions and the values that were dominant within many cultures, but those were all critiques against ideas, not against biology. I think he did maintain sexist beliefs, just not racialist beliefs.

  • ||

    like casting (Bernie) Madoff to be the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission
    Is that a type casting problem?

  • NeonCat||

    Not a crazy idea, FDR appointed (reputedly crooked) Joseph Kennedy to head the SEC because "Takes one to catch one".

  • ||

    I don't know what the big deal is -- they cast Anthony Hopkins as a cannibalistic serial killer despite rumors that he is prejudiced against cannibals.

  • newshutz||

    and prejudiced serial killers

  • newshutz||

    prejudiced against serial killers

    preview, how does that work?

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Yeah, it's not like it was bigot bigotry or anything like that.

  • WTF||

    They were not unresponsive.

  • MiNGe||

    MNG, Mel N. Gibson? Coincidence? I think not....

  • PIRS||

    "When you're on the back end of a two-day bender, does it ever occur to you to harangue members of the Greek Orthodox Church? I thought not."

    This comment is in no way intended to defend Gibson's past actions but if a director had been harangued by self-appointed leaders of the Greek-Orthodox church who accused him of being an anti-Greek bigot because of a movie he wrote and directed about the death of Socrates that might get under his skin and he might blurt out some anti-Greek statement if drunk.

  • sarcasmic||

    They wanted twelve bucks for the lamb kabob at the Greek Festival this year.
    Twelve fucking dollars!
    Damn gouging Greek-Orthodox bastards!
    I settled for a damn gyro.
    Twelve bucks!?!
    Fuckers.

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    It's deeper than that. I think he internalized some of the stuff his dad probably told him when he was growing up, but so? I think he genuinely regrets much of the stuff he's said, and it's not like he's the only person who's ever had to deal with loathsome ideas kicking around in his head. It's not like he raped or killed anybody. Hell, his sort of 'demons' are very common.

  • ||

    Those perputal offeendes never consider that perhaps this movie mel is making is an apology of sorts to the Jewish people.

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    Exactly. Also, if critics paid close enough attention to The Beaver...

  • Restoras||

    Exactly from me as well.

  • ||

    He's an alcoholic. They aren't known for their gentility, generally speaking.

  • ||

    I met a woman who worked for a fencing company that built a fence on Mel Gibson's property in Connecticutt in the early 90s. They were pretty big and used to get all the celebrity properties.

    She said that he and his wife were really nice and not at all snobbish*. Martha Stewart, on the other hand is a total bitch.

    *Of course, Mel might have gotten that from living in Australia.

  • jtuf||

    Connecticut has noteworthy residents? I thought it was just part of the wilderness between New York City and New Hampshire.

  • jtuf||

    From Stepford Wives

    Claire Wellington: I asked myself, "Where would people never notice a town full of robots?"
    [gasps]
    Claire Wellington: Connecticut.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327162/quotes

  • dakotian||

    When they pulled Mel from Hangover 2 someone made the point (can't remember were I saw it) that they did not want a cameo by a suspected racist but the producers had no problem with Mike Tyson, a CONVICTED rapist, having a cameo.

  • ||

    Yes, we really might want to bring back some shunning. The fact that Tyson got out after three years for rape, then gets media time as a convicted rapist. . .well, something's not quite right about that.

  • Whoopi Goldberg||

    I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and when they let him out he was like "You know what this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail I'm not staying, so that's why he left.

  • ||

    Not sure what rape-rape means but Tyson was convicted of one count of rape and two counts deviate sexual conduct. Unless the information on the website that I just goggled is old, Tyson is a convicted felon.

  • PIRS||

    Dakotian, that is a reference to Whoopi Goldberg's pathetic defense of Roman Polanski.

  • Dakotian||

    Ok, I did not catch the sarcasim. I forgot about the attempts at justification.
    Thanks PIRS.

  • PIRS||

    No problem, sometimes it is hard to catch in the written word.

  • ||

    When they pulled Mel from Hangover 2 someone made the point


    That was me!

  • Militant Atheist||

    Socrates is a myth! There is no proof Socrates ever even existed! He was constructed by the Greek colonial government to help prevent uprisings by the followers of Plato!

  • ||

    As if Hollywood isn't littered with people with crazy ideas about the world.

    It's not like he's the leader of a political movement.

  • Warty||

    Roman Polanski, who drugged and sexually assaulted a 13-year-old

    He raped her. Why choose the softer term sexually assaulted?

  • WTF||

    Actually, he ass-raped her. Let's not pull any punches.

  • Warty||

    Yeah. Any mention of Roman Polanski's name should be of this form: "Roman Polanski, who drugged a 13-year old girl and anally raped her..."

  • Ted S.||

    As I wrote in February,

    I'm beginning to think more and more that Elia Kazan shouldn't have named Communists; he should have raped girls.
  • ||

    +1000 Ted.

  • Zuo||

    "roman polanski, who forcibly drugged and viciously ass raped a helpless 13 year old little girl..."

  • sarcasmic||

    Which sounds worse, ass-raped or sodomized?

  • ||

    Ass Raped.

  • Warty||

    I think anally raped is the worst.

  • ||

    Anally sodomized rape. Redundant I know, but the vileness of that man neesd to be firmented.

  • Roman Polanski||

    You guys have no idea what you are missing.

  • ||

    don't forget he drugged her first, too

  • whoopi!||

    well to be fair, it wasn't 'ass rape' ass rape...

  • Aimeng||

  • Ice Nine||

    Wait, Polanski pulled?

  • Warty||

    Oh yeah, TRIGGER ALERT!!!!

  • ||

    Poor guys rape. We sexually assault.

  • Montani Semper Liberi||

    So if Mel Gibson is directing, I'm assuming this will be Braveheart set in ancient Israel. Kind of like how The Patriot was just Braveheart set during the American Revolution. I'll probably go see it.

  • Rev. Blue Moon||

    That's what I was thinking. William Wallace/Francis Marion as Judas Maccabeus is going to kick ass.

  • WTF||

    I'd go see it.

  • Rev. Blue Moon||

    Oh, and as a member of the Chosen People, I therefore have carte blanche (ironic, no?) to forgive Gibson and tell the Rabbi that Rosh Hashanah is coming up, and acting like a judgmental ass is definitely a "bad deed".

  • WTF||

    Rosh Hashanah is coming up, and acting like a judgmental ass is definitely a "bad deed".

    I'm keeping this one in my back pocket for future use.

  • ||

    After Braveheart and Patriot, I figured Gibson just hated British people. I had no idea he hated Jews (too).

  • No True Scotsman||

    R C,

    Gibson doesn't hate all British people, just the English.

  • WTF||

    Actually, if he is making a movie about Judas Maccabaeus, I guess he also hates the Seleucid Empire.

  • ||

    "No Jews or Dogs Allowed." Why do all the shops say, "No Jews Allowed"?

    --Oh, that. "Not Allowed" signs are the latest trend! The other day, I was in a shop with my friend the kangaroo, but their sign said, "No Kangaroos Allowed," and I said to my friend, "Well, what can I do? They don't allow kangaroos."

    Why doesn't our shop have a "Not Allowed" sign?

    -- Well, tomorrow, we'll put one up. We won't let in anything we don't like. What don't you like?

    Spiders.

    -- Good. I don't like Visigoths. Tomorrow, we'll get sign: "No Spiders or Visigoths Allowed."

  • Mr. Mark||

    "Kind of like how The Patriot was just Braveheart set during the American Revolution."

    Gasp*chortle...hurl...yack...blaurgh!

    Braveheart was an unprovoked attack on Scottishness. The Patriot was simply a widening of that war to America.

    Check out Rob Roy,instead.

  • affenkopf||

    Gibson making a film about a religious fundamentalist who fought against western civilisation? Why am I not supriesed (obligatory Hitchens)

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Let's be fair, the Hellenistic Selecuids weren't all sweetness and light. Their idea of "winning hearts and minds," were to defile the Jews' holy places with pig sacrifices and ban the circumcised from all that public Greek nudity that was going on (i.e. everyday life.)

  • ||

    They gave out free gym memberships, though.

  • jtuf||

    The JCC is the best of both worlds.

  • ||

    Thank you

  • Old Mexican||

    But if there's anything more irritating than listening to a slightly insane and very angry celebrity who is stupid drunk, it's listening to self-appointed Jewish leaders be offended for me.


    Big contrast between individualism and collectivism:

    A single person can make an ass of himself by speaking his mind, which only affect him; a group of sanctimonius busybodies speak their mind, purport to speak for a greater number, make asses of themselves and everybody else in the process.

  • ||

    When you're on the back end of a two-day bender, does it ever occur to you to harangue members of the Greek Orthodox Church? I thought not.

    Speak for yourself, Harsanyi!

  • Warty||

    "All the wars in the world are caused by Russians!"

    Actually, that sounds a little less insane.

  • jtuf||

    And sure, Gibson's words were ugly. But if a Polish director who drugged and sexually assaulted a 13-year-old can cast stars in his films, find funding, and win Oscars, why not Mel? If Jeff Spicoli can buddy up with a fleshy two-bit dictator and continue to find work, why not Mel? If Al Sharpton—a man whose vile and consequential anti-Semitism has incited violence, destruction, and social unrest—has a TV show funded by NBC, why not Mel?

    The first two examples don't have anything to do with the missions of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Anti-Defamation League. The last example is a prominent Dem.

  • Rev. Blue Moon||

    Polanski may or may not be Jewish, so that is relevant. Sean Penn also may or may not be Jewish. If it is not the "mission" of the ADL to police up The People, then it shouldn't be speaking on behalf of The People.

  • ||

    And don't forget about Mel Brooks and Jerry Seinfeld's Jew-baiting. How those guys can show their face in polite company is beyond me.

  • Mr. Mark||

    "And don't forget about Mel Brooks and Jerry Seinfeld's Jew-baiting. How those guys can show their face in polite company is beyond me."

    If life is movie, I am certain Mel Brooks has written the script.

    Him and Stephen King - a collaborative effort.

  • Fluffy||

    Here's what I don't get.

    Say I spend a decade or two doing a Michael Richards impersonation and running around calling people niggers.

    But then I get bored with that and make a movie about how Malcolm X was really cool and fucked people up with his superpowers and heat vision and shit.

    I don't understand how that's "an insult" to blacks.

    It was "an insult" to Jews when Gibson was calling them names. Making a movie about how some historical Jews were badasses is not "an insult". In fact, it sounds more like "I take those other insults back. See?"

  • ||

    yeah. Suppose what Gibson said was a crime. And part of his sentence was public service. Wouldn't making such a movie fulfill the service requirement? Isn't making a movie showing Jews in a good light one good way Gibson can make up for what he said?

  • WTF||

    Exactly - I would think they would be happy to have someone with Mel Gibson's film making talent doing a movie about Judas Maccabaeus.

  • Mr. Mark||

    "I would think they would be happy to have someone with Mel Gibson's film making talent doing a movie about Judas Maccabaeus."

    Not if he uses that Randall Wallace guy for a director again - Eeeegad! Phooey! Hurl...

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Making a movie about how some historical Jews were badasses is not "an insult".

    It could be if said movie insinuates that those historical events were just a prophesied prelude to that other rebel against Greco-Roman occupation, the "messiah" that Gibson believes to the true one and Jews don't.

  • ||

    Then he is doing a Christian take on the Old Testament. So what?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Well, I, for one, prefer autobiographies to unauthorized biographies.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Then he is doing a Christian take on the Old Testament. So what?

    No, not just a Christian take, but a replacement theology take, which most Jews would find highly offensive. Not hard to see why.

    Of course, Gibson has every right to believe in replacement theology and make his movies from that interpretation, just as the Jewish community has a right not to like his interpretation of their stories.

  • ||

    Jesus was most definitely not a rebel, at least not in a military/political sense. (assuming he existed, blah blah)

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Care to elaborate, Tulpa? I would argue that the "Render unto Caesar..." parable alone is proof enough of Jesus' radical, at the time, views on the Roman occupation.

    Granted, he was far from being a Sicarius, but he was still considered a large enough threat for the Romans to sentence him to death.

  • ||

    He had a radical enough message: "love thy neighbor". They nailed him to the wood for it, too.

  • jtuf||

    I heard cleric interpret the Turn the Other Cheek Sermon as instructions for for civil disobedience.

  • Mr. Mark||

    ...not to send peace but a sword...

  • Rhymes With Right||

    In other words, you object to Christianity and its use of the Old Testament.

  • jtuf||

    Today's Liberal Jews are very uncomfortable at being portrayed as badasses.

  • ||

    You know, the world is filled with a bunch of PC, self righteous, hang wringing hypocrites. We don't have to let them dictate the agenda for all of the rest of us. I like and admire Mel Gibson. Sure, he is a stupid asshole on occasion. Who isn't? I certainly am at times. Do we really need to judge people at their worst. Is it our mistakes which are supposed to define us. I seriously doubt that Mel actually hates Jewish people. I would bet dimes to dollars that he has many Jewish friends who love him and have already forgiven him for being an idiot on occasion.

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    Seconded.

  • Mr. Mark||

    In defense of celebutards (and to induce vomiting), the lives of celebutards are far more under the microscope than the lives of ordinary, productive, well-adjusted, non-drug addicted, generally law-abiding people's lives are.

  • I, Kahn O'Clast||

    Or maybe this is really an anti-Semitic plot ... Say the film was going to be made anyway so Mel decides to direct it thus decreasing the audience for a movie about a Jewish hero.....

  • ||

    Well, more to the point, 1st and 2nd Maccabees (which I assume this movie is based on) are not canonical works in Judaism (or Protestantism for that matter). They are canonical in Catholicism though. That is the important context that I think is missing here.

  • ||

    They were canonical in first century AD Judaism, and were part of the Septuagint. Second century rabbis excised them because the Romans come to the rescue in part of the first book.

  • The Great White Indian||

    He called the cop "sugar tits"

    No amount of movies portraying jews in positive light can make up that.

  • ||

    You say that like it is a bad thing.

  • ||

    hey, i thought the sugar tits thing was awesome.

  • ||

    He is Australian...that is how all Australian men greet women....

    Not even a joke by the way.

  • ||

    Actually in spite of living in Australia, I dont's think he ever became a citizen.

    According to Wikipedia (for what that's worth) he is a dual American and Irish citizen.

    And he looks positively sane next to his old man.

  • ||

    He is not Australian. He spent his teenage years in Australia (which is why he can fake the accent well) but he was born in Peekskill, NY. He's no more Australian than Obama is Indonesian.

  • ||

    He's American, but I thought he'd spent more time in Australia. Huh.

    Most of AC/DC, incidentally, are/were native Scots. I'm detecting a pattern here.

  • Mr. Mark||

    "Most of AC/DC, incidentally, are/were native Scots. I'm detecting a pattern here."

    Huh?

  • ||

    Don't forget Russell Crowe, who's from New Zealand but got his start in the Aussie film industry. Even our Prime Minister was born overseas - in Wales, I believe. That pattern is a well established fact in Australia (pronounced Ostraya by us locals).

  • ||

    Kind of rich, considering the 2nd century Jews booted the books of Maccabees out of their scriptures for being excessively pro-Roman.

  • ||

    They earned it.

    First the Romans Kill Christ then when teh Jesus gets big and the Romans become christian they pin the murder on the Jews.

    I would be like "WTF man?!?!"

  • cynical||

    Eh. To me, it's like arguing about whether the Democratic or Republican establishment is a bigger arsehole to Ron Paul.

  • ||

    I am pretty sure 99% of Hollywood hates me because of my political ideology...

    ..And one can find mass graves world wide filled with the bodies of poeple who had similar beliefs.

    Why are the Jews so very special when it comes to derogatory remarks?

  • jtuf||

    Among the many Jewish nonprofits, there are a few that focus on eliminating antisemitism. Just like Blacks have the NAACP. I don't see any problem with the ADL having that focus.

  • Mr. Mark||

    Victimhood is an industry.

    Associating with that industry is a fashion statement.

    So:

    Sharpton/ADL/CAIR/you-name-it: Merchants of Victimhood

    Celebutards: Groupies of the Merchants of Victimhood

  • ||

    I never saw how the ''Passion of Christ'' was anti-semitic ... it is not like the Jews didn't treat Jesus badly.

    Or is it Gibson sin to point to the actions of Jews ? Kill the messenger it seems to me.

  • jtuf||

    The sorry line of the Passion of Christ is straightforward. An innocent Jew dies an excruciatingly painful death so that everyone else can be absolved of their sins. It sounds like a great deal, unless you're the Jew.

  • Alissa||

    I still think he is vile. And Al Sharpton too. We seem to forget and move in the USA. Might be a good thing actually. If not, we'd still hate Japan.

  • db||

    Mel Gibson:

    "I'm not just a spokesman for Hair Club for Men...I'm a member."

  • ||

    He nailed it about Munich. Would have been a great movie without the characters having second thoughts about killing Arab terrorists. Also, I could have done without the awkward sex scenes that made Watchmen's "Hallelujah" scene seem tame.

    No mention of "We Were Soldiers," which differed from his other movies by humanizing the antagonists.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    If you're being oppressed by the Selucids, who do you want to fight for you - the Maccabees, or some liberal Jew like Woody Allen?

  • Rhymes With Right||

    There is another angle to this one that I think the Jewish community is ignoring. For Catholics, the story of the Maccabees is a part of their Scripture. Is it really the position of the Jewish community that a Catholic can't make a film about a part of his religion without Jewish permission? Would Jewish groups stand by without comment if Christian groups tried to stop a Jewish filmmaker from making a movie about part of the OT?

  • jtuf||

    And as strange as it seems, artistically speaking, the Jews could use Gibson on this one. The story of Hanukkah isn't only the tale of miraculous candles and Christmas envy, you know. It's about slaying unarmed Hellenistic interlopers and taking names (afterward). It is about populist Jewish rebellion, the unsheathing of theocratic swords and the struggle for freedom (Jewish freedom, anyway). Surely, this kind of material can't be entrusted to some hand-wringing, weak-kneed director who will slather his Jewish liberal sensibilities all over history. Have you seen Steven Spielberg's Munich? No, we need crazy on this.

    I have a feeling this might freak out the Liberal Jews more than anything else. Many of them still aren't comfortable with the idea of Jews having military power.

  • Mr. Mark||

    Just out of curiosity, since I read in several places that Passion of the Christ was supposedly anti-Semitic, what exactly is anti-Semitic about Passion of the Christ?

    I watched it. The eye-ball eating bird thing was disgusting. But other than that, what's the problem?

    As far as celebutards issuing idiotic statements - isn't that what they DO? Doctors fix broken people, bricklayers lay brick, and celebutards say stupid shit.

    For instance, take Mel's backpedaling on Apocalypto (which, by way of the pointless heart-yanking sacrifice thing, was a great analogy for the global warming hoax). The AGW-zombies started ranting about Apocalypto (apparently they detected the same analogy with the sacrifice thing that I did), and he starts flapping his gums about how Apocalypto was supposed to tell people how we are destroying the Earth, and how we must...blah, blah, blah...[insert pseudo-scientific looney-tunes doom-and-gloom here].

    Can't we wait and see the movie and then decide for ourselves whether it's any good?

    We can always call "do-over" and have Mel Brooks do an alternate version.

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    Let me be clear. The problem with semites is their refusal to go all the way; their lack of commitment; their wishy-washyizing on the floor of history. My history. The history of the place where I grew up and got older and got prizes from people.

    They should, of course, and as I've often pointed out, be not semites, but fulltes. Allthewaytes. Committedtes. Erectiontes. Or, to put it succinctly, schlongtes.

    We need this bill passed now.

  • Fat Steve||

    I am 100% fine with Mel Gibson making this movie. I wouldn't go see it if it was made by a Jew, Hindu or Buddhist, because I hate biographical historical epics, but as far as Mel Gibson's right to free expression, I am all for it.

    However I would like the freedom to express my feeling that Mel Gibson is a true Anti-Semite. Some of the laughable defenses here (some of his best friends are probably Jewish,) border on the ridculous.

    Surely, blaming the Jews for all the war in the world isn't just something that slips out accidentally? And the people who don't understand that blaming 'the Jews' for the death of Chris and has the line in the movie saying 'his blood on their hands' is a fundamentally Anti-Semitic belief. Blaming an entire ethnic group for the execution of a man who lived over 2000 years ago, and if you believe in his religion, he had to die on the cross to save man from his sins. So, yes to still apportion 'blame' to 'the Jews' for that, is unbelievably Anti-semitic.

    And let's not forget Gibson's father who is a bare faced Holocaust denier. Mel refuses to criticize his father for those statements merely saying 'my old man never told me a lie in my life.'

    Mel Gibson is an egomaniacal shithead like 99.99999% of Hollywood, so I wouldn't be praising him even if he loved Jews, but to deny that he is an anti-semite is to deny the facts.

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