Marching with Michael Moore

After a rally, union toughs get a sneak peak of Capitalism: A Love Story

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While many liberals have mocked conservatives for claiming that the left's agenda is socialist, Moore's response is, "Yeah, so?"

"I hope this film really gets a dialogue going," one AFL-CIO member told me after the film. That it might.

One final note: Just before the film started, Moore asked the audience to turn off any recording devices because the studio did not want bootleg versions of the film getting around. Apparently this socialism stuff has its limits.

Sean Higgins is a Washington D.C.-based reporter.

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  • ||

    The last bit is gold, Sean.

  • Warty||

    Michael Moore = Upton Sinclair + cake

  • Warthole||

    Michael Moore = big fat dog turd made up with frosting on it

    When you bite into it, you find it's still a big fat dog turd, not a cake.

  • Jonas||

    Yeah, I kind of lost interest about half-way through, but I kept reading. It was worth it just for the last paragraph.

  • Michael Moore||

    You're next, Shug.

  • ||

    Michael Moore = Upton Sinclair + cake + a wafer thin mint

  • Kevin||

    He looks so much like Peter Griffin it's scary.

  • Warty||

    What's funnier than hipster glasses on a fat man?

  • Attorney||

    Towards the end of film he interviews Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the Senate's only (avowed) socialist. As far as Moore is concerned, Sanders' ideas "sound like America."

    Barf.

  • dennis||

    Moore's cozy relationship with the hypothetical socialist overlords he wishes for would no doubt assure that he would get to keep all the cool shit he acquired selling his schlock in a mixed market economy.

  • ||

    Whenever the subject of Micheal Moore comes up, this is all I can raise as a mental image.

  • ||

    Thats the funniest think I've seen all day!

  • ||

    First, Moore is a radical ideologue before he is a partisan Democrat. His film hammers congressional Democrats pretty hard for leading the effort to pass the Wall Street bailouts last year. Moore fudges a little on this, portraying the opposition that sank the initial House vote on the bailout as comprised exclusively of progressive Democrats. In fact, it was mostly Republican opposition that killed it. (That opposition crumbled after the markets subsequently tanked.)pork was added to the bailout
    FIFY

  • ||

    "sneak peak" isn't correct. Fix this.

  • @||

    Warty | September 21, 2009, 4:44pm | #

    What's funnier than hipster glasses on a fat man?


    Fat guy in a little coat?

  • ||

    Caption Contest!

    "I'm so hungry. Please put a polish sausage right...heeeeeere!"

  • Sir Elton John||

    What's funnier than hipster glasses on a fat man?

    I'll bite.

  • ||

    Warren,

    Yes, pork was added. But most politicians thought that the bailout was unpopular politically, but believed the warnings of all the "responsible" financial analysts that the world was doomed unless the bailout was passed. The pork was necessary to get them to vote for it, to soften the political backlash in their districts, but the fear of Great Depression II and the scaremongering is why it passed.

  • smartass sob||

    What's funnier than hipster glasses on a fat man?

    Oh, I don't know - maybe a dishonest, snotty-mouthed, socialist, fat guy getting smacked in the mouth with the wide side of a two-by-four?

  • Walter Jameson||

    "It's not my fault. Capitalism turned me into a fat wealthy capitalist."

  • ||

    John Thacker,

    Yes that's the way it was advertised. But the opposition (correctly) rejected the thesis that the bailout would prevent GDII. They were turned by the tried and true method of bribery.

  • Almost every economist in the ||

    But the opposition (correctly) rejected the thesis that the bailout would prevent GDII.



    We disagree.

  • ||

    Keynesians like PK with a 0 batting record disagree.

  • Mango Punch||

    Moore is ahead of the curve:
    I heard Socialists at the upper echelons of the 'revolution', generally come out well ahead economically... maybe I should hop on this band-wagon now while it's fresh!

    Worst case capitalizm will pay me the big bucks for my anti-capitalist documentaries...
    Best case, socialism will pay me even bigger bucks as king!

  • Mango Punch||

    Caption Contest!

    "Michael Moore and the Invisible Man: A Love Story" [now on Blue-Ray and DVD, rated X]

  • Tricky Prickears||

    but the fear of Great Depression II and the scaremongering is why it passed.

    I dunno. Was it me, or did Paulson truly have the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes?


    I hear a lot of Progressives complain about "Capitalism", but when you press them for an alternative, they come up with co-ops or something, and community gardens. I can't seem to explain to them that Capitalism is the best way to fight "Capitalism".

  • ||

    Someone needs to re-release that Kelsey Grammer movie, An American Carol, the same weekend that Moore's latest crap fest comes out. Send a message by crushing it at the box office! American Carol - easily the funniest movie since anything with Larry the Cable guy in it. Git R Done!!! (They should change the name of this blog from "Hit N Run" to Git R Done - has anyone else thought of this yet?

  • BakedPenguin||

    He looks so much like Peter Griffin it's scary.



    Yeah, but a ten minute fight between Moore and a giant chicken would actually be funny.

  • MNG||

    Well, this fact certainly says something good about capitalism: under capitalism you can actually get rich and famous by denigrating capitalism. Imagine a communist anaology to that!

  • MNG||

    Moore's a great capitalist. He anticipated a demand for something that was not being met. Despite not being loaded he combined hard work, willingness to take risks, and an eye towards his consumer to create product after product that made him wealthier and wealthier.

    Of course, his product is that capitalism stinks.

    But really, that's a beautiful thing about capitalism imo.

  • Michael Ejercito||

    Capitalism is not an "ism." It is closer to being the opposite of an "ism," because it is simply the freedom of ordinary people to make whatever economic transactions they can mutually agree to.

  • ||

    Uh, his last two films have been dismal failures at the box office.

  • Mango Punch||

    "Moore's a great capitalist"

    True, but there are some people who I wish the invisible hand would punch in the face, rather than give them a hand job...

  • JB||

    +2

  • Mike M.||

    Welcome to the topsy-turvy, Alice in Wonderland reality of the late 20th and early 21st centuries, where the world's greatest capitalists are radical far-left commies.

  • ||

    Didn't you see the part in Bowling for Columbine where all the peolpe in metro Toronto leave thier doors unlocked 24/7? Talk about Alice in Wonderland! This film I'm sure is no different.

  • ||

    So my Comp 2 group is doing a presentation on this movie (after it comes out everywhere, obviously). Any suggestions on how to take it, and how to not sound completely pissed off at Micheal Moore?

    Also capitalism is not evil, it is the only truly good and ethical economic system. It respects personal property, and rewards those who have ability. So, yeah, judging by the way I see capitalism, talking about Moore objectively is going to be harder than skiing up a mountain.

  • MNG||

    Capitalism promotes people's self interest even when that self-interest is harmful to capitalism's survival! But of course capitalism incentivizes people to sell anything that sells, even anti-capitalism or what not.

    This point was made to me when Nike used the Beatles song "Revolution" to sell shoes made by ten year olds working 10 hour a day shifts in Bangladesh...

  • MNG||

    "Also capitalism is not evil, it is the only truly good and ethical economic system. It respects personal property, and rewards those who have ability."

    Dude, this is not going to be a very controversial statement here. Hell, if you added "and lucky" at the end I'd agree with that statement.

    "Any suggestions on how to take it, and how to not sound completely pissed off at Micheal Moore?"

    I had to watch Bowling for Columbine in college. While I am pro-gun rights I tried to fairly see Moore's points. Some were stupid and awful (when he got K-Mart to stop selling hunting ammo and when he ambushed Heston, whom we now know was ill at the time), others, after thinking about them, were not (the part where he crushes pat answers why our murder rate is so high [video games? well they have those in Japan but theirs is not high; divorce rates? well they are high in Europe but the murder rate is low; etc, interestingly he even undercut his own point about gun control by having a segment in which he says Canada has 7 million guns for 10 million families yet still has very low murder rates]).

  • ||

    Capitalism promotes people's self interest even when that self-interest is harmful to capitalism's survival!

    Didn't Lenin say something about rope merchants along these lines?

  • Sean W. Malone||

    Incidentally - I just watched the 2007 Documentary, "Manufacturing Dissent" - I recommend.

    YouTube provides!

  • jtuf||

    I might see Capitalism. It depends on how Mr. Moore responds to this e-mail I sent him.


    Dear Sir,

    I would like to see Capitalism: A Love Story, but I don't want to pay for a ticket. Please mail a free ticket to: ...

  • BeesInTheBrain||

    "The election of Barack Obama, who is portrayed as a populist warrior who will reverse all of this"

    If this is true, then will the FEC ban this movie from the airwaves during the 2012 election?

  • ||

    I haven't read the comments so excuse me if it's been mentioned before, which it most certainly has. But what do capitalism and the bailouts have to do with one another? It seems as if the bailouts were a total slap in the face to anyone who believes in the free market. So I wouldn't go showing a movie about it and calling it capitalism because it is far from it.

  • Sean W. Malone||

    The problem is that Michael Moore doesn't understand the slightest bit of what capitalism actually is. Unfortunately, neither does his audience.

  • Paul||

    The moment of hope arrives with-you guessed it-the election of Barack Obama, who is portrayed as a populist warrior who will reverse all of this.



    Wow, Michael Moore turned government propagandist.

  • Paul||

    All of them are portrayed as either dupes or water carriers for Wall Street scoundrels.



    In fairness to Michael Moore, they are.

  • Paul||

    One final note: Just before the film started, Moore asked the audience to turn off any recording devices because the studio did not want bootleg versions of the film getting around. Apparently this socialism stuff has its limits.



    Fuck that! The film belongs to the People!

  • Paul||

    MNG, Reason did a very similar article on Columbine a few years ago... at least I think it was Reason. Anyway, it was noted (I've never seen the film) that Moore was even introspective about 9/11 in that so much damage was caused by 19 guys with boxcutters.

  • Sean W. Malone||

    "So apparently Michael Moore is portraying the bailouts -- that's right, the *government bailouts of Wall Street* -- as an example of "capitalism"! Um, hello? He can't be that stupid; no one is THAT stupid. He is promoting th...is kind of confusion deliberately."

    - Tom Woods

  • ||

    That point can never be made enough. And to distinguish free market capitalism (individualism powered) vs crony capitalism (collectivism powered).

  • ||

    In a free market society, it is enough to have the funds. The suppliers of paper are as willing to sell it to the Daily Worker as to the Wall Street Journal. In a socialist society, it would not be enough to have the funds. The hypothetical supporter of capitalism would have to persuade a government factory making paper to sell to him, the government printing press to print his pamphlets, a government post office to distribute them among the people, a government agency to rent him a hall in which to talk, and so on.

    Perhaps there is some way in which one could overcome these difficulties and preserve freedom in a socialist society. One cannot say it is utterly impossible. What is clear, however, is that these are very real difficulties in establishing institutions that will effectively preserve the possibility of dissent. So far as I know, none of the people who have been in favor of socialism and also in favor of freedom have really faced up to this issue, or made even a respectable start at developing the institutional arrangements that would permit freedom under socialism. By contrast, it is clear how a free market society fosters freedom.



    - Milton Friedman, Capitalism and Freedom

  • Some Guy||

    After the premiere one union activist asked Moore about the fact that two other people he criticizes in the film, National Economic Council chairman Larry Summers and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, are in Obama's administration now. Moore responded by saying that he imagined Obama had-figuratively speaking-hired bank robbers to advise him on keeping the bank from getting robbed.

    "That's my hope," Moore declared.


    So was he implying that he hasn't paid even a tiny bit of attention as to the bank robbing they've been doing in the last 8 months, and he's just hoping that they have changed course from the Bush bailouts? If that's not what he means, then it makes no fucking sense.

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  • Paul||

    It's not the bank robbing I'm worried about, it's the Paul robbing that's getting on my nerves.

  • Paul||

    So far as I know, none of the people who have been in favor of socialism and also in favor of freedom have really faced up to this issue, or made even a respectable start at developing the institutional arrangements that would permit freedom under socialism.



    They have faced up to it, and simply deny that these effects will come about. The supporters of Campaign Finance Reform, for instance, really believe that with the right people in charge, speech will not be chilled based on political reasons, or more accurately, reasons for which they disagree.

    In healthcare, they believe that in a system that's "not about money" they truly believe that with the right people in charge, decisions will be made based upon compassion and need, and the outcomes will be better and more fair than free market outcomes.

  • hmm||

    ...with the right people in charge

    One of my favorite points in any discussion, or argument.

  • ||

    While many liberals have mocked conservatives for claiming that the left's agenda is socialist, Moore's response is, "Yeah, so?"

    So every iteration of socialism implemented by man has been a monumental exercise in oppression, misery and death. Fucking moron.

  • ||

    Oh not every nation goes monumentally socialist so they don't get monumentally oppressive. For example the US still has some freedom left. But give them time.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    Don't you just love how a prick like Moore can USE capitalism, to GAIN from it, amass a personal fortune... while trashing it like it was a disease to be eradicated.


    ***


    "Imagine a communist anaology to that!"

    Well, MNG, at least in this admittedly-imperfect capitalist society, we don't get shot for poking fun at our elected officials. Like in, say, North Korea.

  • Joe C||

    Caption contest: "Documentary" filmmaker Michael Moore seen sitting on a twinkie.

  • ||

    Given the opportunity, I would collapse into a quivering heap of exhaustion long before I ever got bored of punching Michael Moore's doughy face.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    No, violence would be wasted on even a monumental hypocrite like Moore.

    If he TRULY gave a shit, he'd give all his proceeds to charity, or split it with the government, and live in poverty.

    That disheveled, frumpy look isn't fooling people who know what he's really about... making a buck trashing the country that gives him the ability to make said buck.

  • smartass sob||

    Caption contest: "Documentary" filmmaker Michael Moore seen sitting on a twinkie.

    Would that be before or after he ate it?

  • ||

    "Documentary" is sort of using the term loosley I believe.

  • ||

    Thanks MNG, yeah I had to watch Bowling for Columbine in high school. Hated his message, but Moore makes some good points. And I don't think capitalism has anything to do with luck, it's all about who sells good stuff and who buys it.

  • George Miller||

    Caption competition: did you say ALL I can eat?!

  • BoycottMoore||

    Not that this audience needs to be told not to give their money to Michael Moore, but please spread the word about the boycott. http://www.boycottmoore.com . Don't feed the pig!

  • Tony||

    So every iteration of socialism implemented by man has been a monumental exercise in oppression, misery and death. Fucking moron.



    Oh come on, the exercise in oppression, misery, and death I witnessed in Paris was only just momentous.

  • Tony||

    interestingly he even undercut his own point about gun control by having a segment in which he says Canada has 7 million guns for 10 million families yet still has very low murder rates]).



    The message was ambiguous, and not just anti-gun. I think the causal factor he discovers is America's culture of perpetual media-driven fear.

  • J D||

    "So every iteration of socialism implemented by man has been a monumental exercise in oppression, misery and death. Fucking moron."

    Do you consider Canada, the UK, France, and Germany (among others) socialist? I don't think things are as black and white as you seem to believe.

  • Sean W. Malone||

    I wouldn't consider most of Europe actually all that much more socialist than the United States is - it's a few degrees more, but the whole "mixed economy" thing is basically the same across the board. The increased level of government intervention for various European nations is basically the measurement of their lowered standards of living/productivity. Not that shocking, but not to the point where they are starving either. But I wouldn't want to live in most of the places people live in Copenhagen, Helsinki, or Stockholm - and there are only a few places in the UK, Germany & Spain that would make much sense to me.

    Regardless, the more control government has over people's lives, the less individuals have and pretty much by definition, the worse people's lives are. I don't know what the line is that takes a nation over the edge into North Korea territory, but the mixed economy thing is a huge drag on productivity, prosperity and freedom all by itself.

  • Aurini||

    What makes Socialism here in Canada (and presumably Europe, though Britain makes me shudder) tolerable is that it's been a long, slow development going hand-in-hand with culture - we're in the frozen north, it's in our blood to take care of one another, and this gradually got perverted into government-run healthcare.

    So although Canada *technically* has a lot of socilist elements, and a Charter of Rights that isn't worth spit, we've got a long history of civil law and behavioural standards going back to the Magna Carta; in practice we're more free than you Yanks are at times. The government is more likely to censor your freedom of speech, but you're less likely to get attacked for what you're saying.

    Mind you, I'm still emmigrating down to Nevada one day and buying a shitload of guns.

  • ||

    Caption contest: "I'M FAAAAAAAAAABULOUS!"

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    "I think the causal factor he discovers is America's culture of perpetual media-driven fear."

    On BOTH sides of the extremist ideological aisle, right?

  • fred lapides||

    the nature of comments in media postings usually a good marker for the sort of people reading that source. In this instance: wow. snarky, venomous, nothing thoughtful.

    The general position--Moore ought not make money--is just plain silly. Many years ago, a guy who was an American Marxist tired of arguing against the system and turned his attention instead to helping the working class out by making them profit from the system. Name: Berny Cornfeld. Idea? mutuala funds for the masses.
    Why should Moore (like him or not) not make money to enable him to make more films when he lives in the system he is dealing with?

  • ||

    Because he isn't living in accordance with the principles that he's trying to ram down everybody else's throats. It's like a rapist preaching celibacy. Do you really expect me to respect that? If so, why?

  • Sean W. Malone||

    Fred. You don't know where you are.

  • ||

    Do you consider Canada, the UK, France, and Germany (among others) socialist? I don't think things are as black and white as you seem to believe.

    Those countries are welfare states, not socialist. So is the United States for that matter.

  • ||

    It''s a continuum but if that's your criteria then yes, Venezuela, Cuba, the former USSR, et al.. socialism does cause monmumental misery.

  • ||

    Michael Moore = Upton Sinclair + cake



    The Upton Sinclair is a lie!

  • Robert||

    He looks so much like Peter Griffin it's scary.


    He doesn't just look like him, he also acts like him. Through a bullhorn, Peter Griffin would probably even sound like Michael Moore.

  • ||

    Ugh, Michael More was in my town, and I didn't even get a chance to boo?

    This almost as tragic as my missing Radley Balko's visit as well.

    More, you're not worth any of our time. If my friend can get us in for free, my boyfriend and I might go see your movie and taunt it. Juvenile and sneaky, yes...Just like More.

  • ||

    I fully expect to see this movie without need for buying a ticket. If I am charged, this movie is hypocritical.

  • ||

    I liked another movie: "Stock Shock" because it explains how the whole naked short selling stock market manipulation thing works--through the example of Sirius XM stock. Good DVD. Amazon has it or stockshockmovie.com has the movie trailer.

  • ||

    The message was ambiguous, and not just anti-gun. I think the causal factor he discovers is America's culture of perpetual media-driven fear.



    Which explains his ambush interview of Dan Rather near the end of the film.

  • ||

    The best defense against capitalism is the free market.

  • ||

    QFMT.

    It makes my day when someone gets it.

  • BeesInTheBrain||

    Caption Contest; "Almost done Chatty Cathy, almost done."

  • LarryA||

    ...with the right people in charge

    That's actually the fatal flaw in socialism. After you raise a couple of generations who let the government run their lives, there aren't any more "right people" capable of running the government.

    Too bad Moore didn't take his union friends on another Cuba field trip, to talk to the union members down there.

  • Marc||

    the nature of comments in media postings usually a good marker for the sort of people reading that source. In this instance: wow. snarky, venomous, nothing thoughtful.

    Ooh ooh! You forgot "poorly spelled and punctuated".

    Welcome to the internet, Mr. Thoughtful Pants.

  • ||

    This reminds me of an article in the NYTimes: Briefly, a man identified as a wine seller was carrying a sign reading "Capitalism Kills". Since he's clearly not just a capitalist but a MERCHANT, I have to wonder if whether he a) truly understands what he's saying and is thus, an evil, evil sociopath or b) he's just a bit of a ninny. I'd love to ask him how he defines himself.

  • Ample Bosoms||

    "This point was made to me when Nike used the Beatles song "Revolution" to sell shoes made by ten year olds working 10 hour a day shifts in Bangladesh..."

    Imagine no Air Jordans,
    I wonder if you can.

  • 03.24.63||

    What's with all these fucking dates for names?

  • Duncan||

    As much as libertarians might hate to hear this, they have a lot in common with libertarians in a number of areas. Sean Higgins seems shocked that there is a great deal of resentment on the left of bank bailouts. I think both libertarians and liberals are troubled by the idea that rules of the game and the system are designed to protect the powerful from their own mistakes. This is an area where libertarians have almost nothing in common with the Republican party.

  • ||

    Don't conflate dems with liberals or GOP with conservatives.

    Libertarians have a lot in common with liberals and conservatives and almost nothing in common with the two parties. Liberals and conservatives otoh do tend to identify with a party and have more team think.

    Specifically GOP conservatives tend not to be pro big business and hate big government and dem liberals tend to be pro big government and hate big business.. neither seeing they are the same thing.

  • 03.24.63||

    "In fairness to Michael Moore, they are."

    Even a big fat, hypocritical broken clock...

  • Squirrel||

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  • 03.24.63||

    “In healthcare, they believe that in a system that's "not about money" they truly believe that with the right people in charge, decisions will be made based upon compassion and need, and the outcomes will be better and more fair than free market outcomes.”

    I just watched Dr. Zhivago this weekend. It sure sold me on socialism.

  • 03.24.63||

    "Well, MNG, at least in this admittedly-imperfect capitalist society, we don't get shot for poking fun at our elected officials. Like in, say, North Korea."

    The have elections in NK???

  • ||

    Moore reminds me of the propaganda pig "Squealer" in Animal Farm.

    "Tactics, comrades, tactics!"

  • Colin||

    It seems like the film did pretty poorly in its first week in wide release; although, of course, the newswires won't say this.

    It tied Drew Barrymore's tepid roller derby film even though it was in twice as many theaters. And it only did about half of what Maher's film did this time last year.

  • t3knomanser||

    I have to be honest: capitalism and unions are synonymous in my book. Unions are just another corporation.

  • Ample Bosoms||

    OT:

    "I'll tell you another thing about Glenn Beck. He wouldn't know the difference between a football, a bat and a hockey court."--Democratic consultant James Carville, Oct. 5

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    What the-? I'm guessing they don't have hockey rinks in Louisiana (that's where Carville's from, right?)?

  • Attorney||

    If you want a refresher on what you ate for lunch, take a look at some of the adoring comments about this movie & MM on the "Capitalism: ALS" IMDb discussion page.

  • ||

    The problem with capitalism is that the people who want to benefit from it are not smart enough to participate in it. As such, when they cannot put 2 and 2 together, they squeal "not fair" then insist that the people smart enough to participate in capitalism pay for the ineptitude of those not smart enough to compete.

  • Squirrel||

    If you reload, you'll see that preview has returned even better than before.

  • Ample Bosoms||

    BRIDGEWATER, S.D. (AP) -- Behind the freezer doors at a meat plant mysteriously abandoned by its owner, the 44 tons of bison meat managed to hold its own for months, masked by the brutal chill of two South Dakota winters.

    Once the power was cut and spring thaw arrived, nature took over. And enough rotting meat to fill a high school gym did exactly what you'd expect: It stank.

    It stank at the bank. It smelled at the law office. It reeked at the cafe. Even the jewelry store wasn't immune. Everyone in this tiny town could smell it, everywhere they went. A putrid odor so downright nasty the cleaners sent to mop up the gooey mess of liquefied meat - topped by a blanket of swarming white maggots and buzzed by a legion of flies - gave up after two days.

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  • t3knomanser||

    Fair point from the commentary: capitalism and socialism are both evil. I think we should just abolish economies and call it a day. Politics can be next.

  • ||

    My God, it's full of errors!

  • ||

    +1

    Even though I posted this as a reply, I still hate threaded comments with the fire of 10000 suns.

  • Ample Bosoms||

    Caption contest:

    I'm tellin' ya, Jimmy Carter has the tightest asshole. Quite the surprise.

  • ||

    Now WTF. Re-posting reason.tv garbage on Hit & Run was bad enough. Now what? The entire Reason staff can't think of anything, or be bothered to, write something?

  • JB||

    It's beyond ironic that the moron is CHARGING PEOPLE MONEY for a movie about how capitalism is awful.

  • ed||

    Somebody give Moore a Purity Ring.

  • ||

    Literally the shittiest movie I have seen in a while. The only reason I saw it was to do a project on it.

  • VikingMoose||

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  • ||

    Michael Moore can bite my ass, that fat Fuck asshole

  • VM||

    Gary Gary Gary
    (Not Gunnels, of course)
    (or from Weird Science. "OH, GARY, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE COMBING YOUR HAIR")

    You're blocking again. Hier - try some Gestalt therapy. Yell at this chair for a bit!

  • Al Franken||

    Michael Moore is a big fat ball of heroism!

  • ||

    Michael Moore is a pile of cheesburgers. Whatever he is for I am against, except maybe seconds.

  • ||

    Preview is back! Yaaay!!!!

  • Babu||

    Clearly Moore has asked people to pirate the movie and not buy the "official" releases: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/4301.

  • ||

    I think both libertarians and liberals are troubled by the idea that rules of the game and the system are designed to protect the powerful from their own mistakes. This is an area where libertarians have almost nothing in common with the Republican party.

    You've noticed that too, huh? It seems the author of this article took a shot at Bernie Sanders. Well, guess who wrote the Senate version of Ron Paul's HR 1207 Fed Transparency Act.

  • ||

    "I even ended up sitting just behind Moore in the theater."

    Does he smell like sweaty cheese? He looks like he would.

  • TokyoTom||

    I`ve assembled excerpts of Moore`s interviews/reviews here:

    http://mises.org/Community/blo.....nment.aspx

    He`s certainly right that the system is rotten.

  • ||

    Ever since Vince Chase refused to do Aquaman 2, I've been thinking Moore would be perfect. He'd look great in the suit.

  • ||

    Our Founding Fathers declared that the Liberty in America that the Constitution protects will only persist for a moral and just people.

    I would extend that to economic freedom as well (I define capitalism as economic freedom)

    As the citizenry degenerates, it will lose more and more.. as teh systems that were designed to be operated by trustworthy perople are coopted by pople who can no longer be trusted.

    It's not the systems of trust that are flawed.. it's rotten American corruption of morality.

    I know that will be an unpopular opinion hear, but I believe it to be the case

  • @||

    "teh systems that were designed to be operated by trustworthy perople are coopted by pople"

    That's just awesome.

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    ~ OUR U.S.CONGRESS AT LEAST DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE ~ THEY AFFORD POORER AMERICANS THE SAME EMERGENCY ONLY HEALTH*CARE THAT ILLEGAL ALIENS RECEIVE ~

    AMERICA~LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT~ 45,000 DEAD POOR AMERICANS LEAVE U.S. EVERY*YEAR DUE TO 3rd WORLD HEALTH CONDITIONS ??

    ** POLITICS IN AMERICA IS VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN OUR MIDDLE~CLASS & WORKING POOR CITIZENS ARE ALL BEING FORCED 2 ALLOW BIG $$$ TO CONTROL THE PEOPLES HALLS OF THE U.S.CONGRESS..

    ~ SADLY, OUR VERY OWN AMERICAN HEALTH*CARE SATANIC VERSES HAS KEPT 45 MILLION POOR AMERICANS IN 3rd WORLD HEALTH CONDITIONS ~

    DON'T WORRY BE HAPPY ~ THE WORLDS SELECT BILLIONAIRES AND THEIR FRONT CORPORATIONS WILL ALL GET ON BOARD THE NEW HEALTH~TRAIN OF $$$...**ADDING 45 MILLION MORE AMERICAN CITIZENS TO THE CURRENT GIVEN PROFIT MARGINS + WITH A FUTURE AMNESTY PROGRAM
    (6 months) AFTER NEXT U.S.PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION = $$$$$$$$$.........

    WEALTH~CARE FOR ALL THE HEAVILY INVESTED INTERNATIONAL AND AMERICAN BILLIONAIRES IN THE CURRENT U.S.HEALTH FOR THE WEALTHY ONLY SYSTEM WILL NOT END ANYTIME SOON... IT WILL ONLY BE RE~ARRANGED TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE MEGA CAPITALISTS PROSPER IN JUST ANOTHER FASHION .

    THE FINE ART OF DENYING 45 MILLION AMERICANS HEALTH~CARE IN OUR JUDEO~CHRISTIAN NATION IS NOT RACIST AT ALL... IT'S JUST OUR BEHIND THE SCENE WEALTHY ELITE CITIZENS USING THEIR TREMENDOUS WEALTH TO DIRECTLY INFLUENCE OUR U.S. CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES IN KEEPING ALL THE little poor folk down *

    AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS ALL ACROSS THE USA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO COUNT ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FLOCK TO CONTRIBUTE(TITHE)THEIR HARD EARNED MONIES TO THEIR MINISTRIES EVERY WEEK. THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ATTENDING RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN THE U.S. ARE MIDDLE~CLASS AND WORKING POOR CITIZENS WHO NOW DESPERATELY NEED THE HELP AND SUPPORT FROM THESE SAME U.S.RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN LOBBYING THE U.S.CONGRESS TO PROVIDE PROPER HEALTH~CARE FOR ALL POORER AMERICANS.

    ***THERE ARE CURRENTLY AN ESTIMASTED 45 MILLION MEN WOMAN AND CHILDREN WITHOUT HEALTH~CARE IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD????

    SILENT AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO ALL HAVE HEALTH~CARE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IS MUCH MORE FRIGHTENING THEN THE POSSIBLE DENIAL OF A FUTURE HEALTH~CARE PLAN FOR ALL...

    **45,OOO AMERICANS DIE EACH YEAR IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD DIRECTLY RELATED TO THEIR LACK OF PROPER HEALTH*CARE.

    LAWYERS FOR POOR AMERICANS
    (424-247-2013)

  • ||

    Um, Douglas...I know you're a mindless retarded troll who doesn't know how to use the internet properly, but I'll bite anyway. If 45k people die each year in the wealthiest country in the world due to lack of healthcare, why didn't they pay some doctors to cure them? If they couldn't afford to pay, they should have been eligible for Medicaid. So, maybe they really died because they were stupid.

  • Tom||

    I'm a healthcare provider; believe me... not having "healthcare" has a lot more to do with the shitty personal decisions people make than actual poor access. Oh and Douglas really is a Midless Retarded troll.

  • ||

    By the way, Squirrel, the new site still sucks. It took me three tries just to post that comment.

  • abercrombie milano||

    My only point is that if you take the Bible straight, as I'm sure many of Reasons readers do, you will see a lot of the Old Testament stuff as absolutely insane. Even some cursory knowledge of Hebrew and doing some mathematics and logic will tell you that you really won't get the full deal by just doing regular skill english reading for those books. In other words, there's more to the books of the Bible than most will ever grasp. I'm not concerned that Mr. Crumb will go to hell or anything crazy like that! It's just that he, like many types of religionists, seems to take it literally, take it straight...the Bible's books were not written by straight laced divinity students in 3 piece suits who white wash religious beliefs as if God made them with clothes on...the Bible's books were written by people with very different mindsets

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