Baylen Linnekin | March 31, 2009
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“If we believe it’s a restaurant that’s made our kids fat, we’re not going to change, because it’s their fault,” he says. “We’re not going to arrest the control we do have as parents. We have the perfect justification: it’s not our fault. That’s where it really becomes dangerous. These suits obscure the difference we can make in our own lives right now.”
That difference starts and ends with parents. If this panel’s all-star cast can agree that parents hold the key to their own kids’ healthy eating, then the debate over childhood obesity might just be entering a healthy new chapter.
Baylen Linnekin is a writer living in Washington, D.C. He blogs at Crispy on the Outside.
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its everyone elses fault but our own eh!. lets blame mcd's Bk applebees etc for us not taking pride in ourselves. look if you are heavy you either eat to much, which you can easily controll, or have a hormone/genetic componet to it. lets face it some people will never be fat no matter how big of a pig they are. and some fat people eat like a rabbit and gain weight. Genetics plays a huge role i think you will find in the next few years. humans are genetically predisposed to gain weight, blame the hunter gatherer feast/ famine eveloution. look, just be healthy, be responsible for yourself and if you are happy and healthy it does not matter if you weight 100 or 200. there are very healthy heavy people and there are very sick skinny people.
If seeing a Chili's commercial doesn't make you want to vomit, you're probably a fat fuck already.
If seeing Rachel Ray doesn't make you want to vomit, you're eyes are probably retarded.
"Genetics plays a huge role i think you will find in the next
few years...there are very healthy heavy people and there are very
sick skinny people."
So true. I saw a piece on a marathon runner who was considered
obese by the medical weight charts. Short and stocky.
His body type was due to his genetic ancestors, who were Poles, I
think, from Gdansk on the Baltic Sea. Or he could have been
Estonian.
People who eat at chain restaurants deserve whatever they get. Applebee's is an abomination.
"If seeing Rachel Ray doesn't make you want to vomit, you're
eyes are probably retarded."
She had very perky tits, back in the day
The popularity spike of Rachel Ray is when the last hope for America faded in my heart.
I couldn't finish the article. There is nothing new in it. If
you believe that people are indeed responsible for their own
actions, blaming restaurants, saturday morning cartoons, Madison
Avenue etc. is just a fucking cop-out.
I've known it for about 45 years (I'm 53). I smoke cancer sticks.
Not once did a tobacco executive drag me off the street and force
me to inhale nicotine imbued smoke. Not once was I ever under the
impression that coffin nails are anything but harmful.
Blaming others for your own behavior is an excuse that we don't
accept from three year olds.
If seeing Rachel Ray doesn't make you want to vomit, you're
eyes are probably retarded.
Being blind wouldn't protect you if you still had ears.
in a husky Kathleen Turner voice
Romancing the Stone Kathleen Turner or today's Kathleen
Turner? It's kind of significant.
Yo, fuck Warty's opinion!
I'm not what anyone would call fat, but I love Chili's and their
commercials.
I want my babyback babyback babyback...Chili's....babyback
ribs...barbeque sauce.
Hm...the unnecessary hyphen makes baby back ribs seem way more sinister than they are.
Holy shit that sounds friggin awesome. I love bacon, chipotle, and cheese! I'm one of those assholes that can eat whatever I want. I'm 6' tall, 168lbs. Suck it, bitches.
The Venezuelan Jewish community traces its roots back more than
200 years and has no history of tension with the local population.
Before the rise of Hugo Chavez, the Jews were a welcome part of a
society known for its warm temperament and amiable disposition,
free from the discrimination and anti-Semitic violence in many
other countries. Over the last 10 years conditions have worsened
dramatically, and although 15,000 still remain, more than half the
Jewish population has already fled.
All of this takes place in the context of anti-capitalist class
warfare, in which "enemies of the people" are labeled by the
government-controlled media to provide both justification and an
outlet for bitter frustration and anger. This strategy was used to
great effect in the national socialist movements of the 20th
century, where Jews were specifically targeted as "elitist" to
subject them to the anger and resentment of collectivist
masses.
With crime exploding to astonishing levels, and disastrous economic
policies destroying the middle class, Chavez is applying this same
model. He uses his charisma and populist appeal to instill hatred
of Jews and capitalists in his supporters, who are mainly from the
lower class, the military and those who profit from his
power.
More at:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1238423642936
PL,
As Epi's appointed representative, I would think that Romancing
the Stone was to refer to the era of Turner-attractiveness and
not as a confinement of her attractiveness to a single movie.
Body Heat Turner, definitely.
SugarFree,
You dare to speak for Episiarch? On film? And on the attractiveness
of women? You play a dangerous game indeed.
You dare to speak for Episiarch?
Oh, I dare! And he wanted me to highlight the shapeliness of her
legs in particular.
I didn't even read the article, and I'm experiencing an overpowering craving for some deep-fried goose liver on a stick.
P Brooks,
When the world adopts my Taste
Simulator, you can experience that taste or any other, while
ingesting some healthy red pepper hummus. Or celery. What you
actually eat isn't terribly relevant.
Pray tell, what else would Episiarch say were he here
amongst us?
Something about narcotics and fucking. I'm sure of it. And he
wanted me to "give Rachel Ray hell."
I give her all the hell I have, good buddy. All the hell I
have.
Over the last 10 years conditions have worsened
dramatically, and although 15,000 still remain, more than half the
Jewish population has already fled.
The Jewish community has become rather adept at spotting impending
disaster on the horizon...
It is very very sad when I hear things about how children need
to be encouraged to exercise. I have even hear recommendations that
kids spend a half hour or something walking each day. Kids are
supposed to spend 8 hours a day running around outside. The fact
that kids need to have time set aside for exercise is horrifying (I
have a hard enough time accepting it for myself as an adult).
I think it is appropriate to blame parents for just about
everything about their kids, be it obesity, education, violence or
whatever. If you don't have time to properly raise your kids, don't
have them. That's why God invented contraception and abortion.
hey i think Rachel Ray is still pretty darn sexy. If you guys dont want her, i will take her. all she has to do is cook naked with only an apron on. I can take the perky and the querky, i actually like that. but she does talk an awful lot, lol
If you don't have time to properly raise your kids, don't
have them.
I want to agree with the sentiment, but...
Most of my calories were burned when I was running around doing
stuff with little/no parental supervision. I think it's the
OVERparenting (overscheduling, refusal to let little Billy out on
the street for 5 minutes lest he be snatched away by some predator,
etc.) that's a big percentage of the problem. All that's left for
little Billy during his time between piano lessons and tutoring is
sitting his fat ass down in front of the Wii.
T---i | March 31, 2009, 3:52pm | #
First!!!
Don't you mean "dipshit," dipshit?
the genetics/metabolism argument is bullshit. some people may
have to work harder, but the body is an engine with calories as
fuel. pretty simple concept.
watch that biggest loser show on TV. they get really fat people,
put them on a diet and put them in the gym. miraculously they ALL
lose weight. nobody's genes get in the way.
people are fat because they eat too much and do too little.
It is very very sad when I hear things about how children
need to be encouraged to exercise. I have even hear recommendations
that kids spend a half hour or something walking each
day.
I remember the good old days; when I was a kid, my mom, and my
friends' moms, practically had to set traps to capture us in order
to get us inside at night.
Apparently, that's not how it works, nowadays.
Healthy weight is a simple equation:
Calories In = Calories Out
If one side is off balance, unhealthness ensues...
I think Rachel Ray is not bad looking. It's when she opens her fucking mouth-- that's a deal breaker. Sort of like Fran Drescher. But in Drescher's case, I wouldn't not do her. I'd just reach for the ball gag.
"but she does talk an awful lot, lol"
Just make certain to always keep her mouth full.
So,
what makes you fat?
Hint: It's
not fat.
Man Boobs and Wheat Bellies
Gary Taubes, author of "Good Calories, Bad Calories", responded to critics
in Reason's March 2003 issue.
In a nutshell, if you don't want to be fat and/or unhealthy:
1) Don't eat crap (starches, sugars, refined/processed junk).
2) Eat real food, with enough good fats to feel satisfied.
3) Remember that what you eat (and don't eat) will determine your
weight and health far more than any amount of exercise (or lack
thereof):
"Eating right makes you look good. Working out makes you
look good naked."
"Eating right makes you look good. Working out makes you look
good naked."
And eating naked can be loads of fun!
Does anybody else want to see Padma set the chefs to a quickfire challenge to make a creative and adventurous dish out of Rachel Ray?
I remember before McDonalds went "healthy". I could buy a couple of sandwitches and get my recommended calorie intake for that meal. Now I've got to add fries and coke to that to get the same calorie intake. Pratically speaking, the only difference is the increase in price.
Where were all of the fat widdle kiddies back in the 1960s when EVERY breakfast cereal had SUGAR quite prominently in their names?
Very excellent point, Wyatt. Furthermore, where was all the
childhood lung cancer when every adult in our midst smoked
everywhere during waking hours?
I concur with the others who point out that our childhoods were
spent outdoors, exercising almost non-stop. I'm horrified by all
the overparenting. In my day (reaching for my cane now)...in my
day, we walked to school. We all did. A whole mile or so. Anyone
who got dropped off by car was ridiculed (unless their leg was
broken).
Further, we were fed at mealtimes and only at mealtimes. And
portions were limited. There was only one glass of KoolAid per kid.
Only one cup of potatoes. Only one piece of cake, etc. Whining or
resisting got us sent to our rooms or worse.
Obesity was once a bonafide rarity. There were very few chubby
kids.
And...I'm not defending food policing, but restaurant portions were
smaller too. There was no Jumbo french fry and Double Quarter
Pounder.
Plus, we was po.
Anyway, I think obesity is a product of too much, of bounty and of
plenty. End food subsidies now.
Another reason not mentioned: more women working means fewer
home-cooked meals for everyone. And Moms tend not to make
deep-fried onions or bacon-cheese sauces, etc. In fact, many women
are just not very good cooks, and if the food isn't very good, you
tend to eat less of it. Back then a restaurant meal was a once or
twice a month treat.
Which I think is yet another reason for the obesity epidemic: food
is just tastier now than it was 30-40 years ago. Restaurant food is
(on average) tastier. There is a far greater variety of snack foods
available. When I was a kid it was potato chips, BBQ-flavored
chips, Fritos, and cheese puffs. Now there's a 20-foot section of
every supermarket aisle with a staggering variety.
Also, I think that something happened in the '70s that set things
off. It may have been all the health advice to avoid fats.
Unfortunately, fats are needed to feel sated, so I think people
compensated by eating more carbs.
'If you don't have time to properly raise your kids, don't have
them. That's why God invented contraception and abortion.'
If you don't know how to raise your kids, kill them. Also cuts down
on your food budget.
PapayaSF
if the food isn't very good, you tend to eat less of it.
Sorry, guy; I've often eaten too much bad food trying to get
satisfied.
The comment about healthy fast food restaurants reminded me of a chain that thrived for a while in Charlotte back in the 1980's. "D'Lites" had good, reasonably healthy fast food and was quite popular, drawing large crowds, until financial problems developed due to their expanding too fast. There was certainly a market for healthier fast food, but other factors may have prevented the spread of such restaurants. (It should be noted, however, that the D'Lites menu did not have any veggieburgers or the like - but they used lower fat meat, made low fat - but still good - french fries, frozen yogurt instead of frozen ice cream, etc.)
It's ridiculous to hold restaurants accountable for your own
lack of control. I say this as a Pudgy American (there, I said
it).
I do, however, blame McDonald's for not truly caring about me as a
person and my happiness by not selling their hash browns outside of
their breakfast menu.
all she has to do is cook naked with only an apron
on.
Is wanting your girl to have third degree burns some kind of
fetish?
If so, I'll pass. I will take you up on some of that bacon chipotle
cheese sauce though (on rice cakes to make it healthy).
When you talk about kids, it always comes back to the parents. I
live in the affluent section of a college town Only one kid in my
children's classes could be called fat and she is certainly not
obese. We raise our kids well whether it education, nutrition or
whatever.
I often wonder what it would take to raise fat kids. The only way
we could stop our kids from exercising would be to tie them up.
@J sub D - I couldn't agree more. I feel hostile towards people
who blame restaurants for america's obesity problem.
What kind of Capitalist are you, Linnekin? Restaurants serve
enormous portions because consumers DEMAND enormous portions. If we
all ate like rabbits, restaurants would serve rabbit portions. It's
our own fault for supporting them in killing us.
Mixing whole wheat pasta with regular? There is no such thing as "whole wheat pasta". Pasta is made from semolina, the hardest part of the wheat kernel. Anything else is just noodles.
Obesity is a myth! The fat-ish people you see are just fluffy and big boned. Don't listen to those vegan jihadist health nuts. Visit http://ObesityMyths.com
I have three daughters, now 22, 24, and 26 who have never been
on a diet. Our "fast food" restaurant was El Pollo Loco, or Burger
King. We very rarely ate at McDonalds except for breakfast.
As a former Weight Watchers group leader, after losing 36 pounds in
16 weeks, I learned how to cook healthy and my children never
developed a taste for salt, sugar or deep fried foods. It was
forced healthy eating, just common sense.
But it takes time to shop and cook and parents today have very
little, especially if they work outside the home.
Family "dinners" are a thing of the past and eating on the run is
never as enjoyable, or as healthy, as a sit-down meal.
Overweight children and adults is, most certainly not the "fault"
of fast food restaurants, but FFR's are what the American public
wants. No matter what regulations the government tries to enforce,
NO government can legislate the amount of TIME it takes to shop,
cook and eat a healthy family meal.
It is not a matter of "fault", it is and always has been a matter
of choice!
Of course, parents are responsible.
The government should spend its time and efforts educating
Americans about the definition of "personal responsibility," but,
first, it must get over its confusion between "responsibility" and
"blame".
The fault is 100% the parents fault. Children of a certain age can only eat what's placed in front of them or dine out where they're taken. No one, I mean no one needs to ask a child for input as to what or where they want to eat. They'll eat what's placed on the table or they'll starve. Eventually they'll get it. I can't tolerate the society that supports this kind of discussion - as if a restaurateur is at fault! Don't eat there, close them down by your lack of patronage, do something if you don't like it. It is only a short while before BHO takes the food industry over anyway so eat the good stuff while you can!
Step 1: Stop trying to figure out who is to blame. Stop blaming
people. Stop pointing fingers.
Step 2: Start being FOR health instead of AGAINST obesity.
Step 3: Stop dealing only in weight. Create an atmosphere of
positivity and respect for obese children (and hey, obese adults
while you're at it. Now that you mention it...for everyone).
Step 4: Support programs that help ALL people understand all
aspects of health (food, exercise, water etc.) instead of just
focusing on how much they weigh.
Obese kids (and adults) do not deserve to have war declared on
them. Not only is it disrespectful, it's not ineffectual. Promote
health and respect and you'll see more health and respect in
return.
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