Jon Entine from the February 2009 issue
(Page 4 of 4)
Public and union pension funds will be increasingly important factors in financial markets for the foreseeable future. As part of their fiduciary mandate to maximize investment returns, their trustees certainly have a right and duty to lobby for changes in corporate behavior that could result in better returns for their pension holders. But judging by the words and actions of some pension activists, “shareholder value” has become synonymous with “cause-related investing,” justifying a range of actions that may put at risk, directly or indirectly, pensioners’ retirement holdings.
If the goals of pension managers and retirees are not the same—as is often the case—then pension plans should not engage in social investing. In many instances, SRI amounts to union leaders or politicians gambling with other people’s money in support of ideological vanity.
A few politicians have begun speaking out against risking pension funds on political causes, for fear of limiting returns in a difficult investment climate. New York state and New York City public funds prohibit investing in new tobacco stocks, a policy that has drawn the ire of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, even though he is a zealous opponent of smoking. “I don’t think we should be using the city’s investment policies…to advance social goals, no matter how admirable those goals are and no matter how much I believe in it,” he has said.
Pensions are being dragged into treacherous waters by investors who consciously choose to direct their money in socially conscious ways. It’s a questionable risk for cautious times. The use of political criteria may be fine for affluent investors and activists who gamble their own money and assume the extra risk, but pension funds should be held to a higher standard.
Jon Entine is a columnist for Ethical Corporation, an adjunct fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and a consultant on sustainability. His website is jonentine.com.
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No surprise. Houston TX pensions will now be paid for with PENSION BONDS. Just like San Diego our kleptocrats screwed the pooch and the fool taxpayers are on the hook again. Unfortunately none of our crooks went, or will go, to jail.
More evidence of your collapsing Capitalist system. When Obama begins converting the US to Progressivism then things will change for the better.
One of the problems with funds that only invest in what they see
as socially responsible firms is that these investments will
atificially support a stock's price. Of course there are ways to be
socially responsible without necessariliy hurting the bottom line
(a dedication to promoting women to executive positions, for
example), but deliberatly picking stocks based on the fact that you
think they won't seek as much profit is a really stupid way to
invest money that you need.
Sure - if you have some extra money laying around, throw it at
firms that incur extra costs to be environmentally friendly or be
uberphilanthropic and all that - but don't do that with money you
expect to grow at a certain rate and ultimately lead to your
ability to retire with a house on the beach.
I supose if we all had invested with Nazi Germany in 1930 we will all be VERY RICH Nazis. The free world will not exist and Germany's Arian race will be ruling Washington and the rest of the world. Where will you the author find a place on the internet to voice your oppinion and not get your face broken afterwards in a prison cell?
Actually, lurkertroll, I would say that it's more evidence that
"progressivism" is a pie-in-the-sky, dreamy vision that doesn't
work. This has zero to do with capitalism and everything to do with
social engineering. Had the investors stuck with the Make Money
system of investing, rather than their warm-fuzzy dream of "making
a difference", things probably would have worked out better for
them.
I know...don't bait the troll...I just couldn't resist.
Of course there are ways to be socially responsible without
necessariliy hurting the bottom line (a dedication to promoting
women to executive positions, for example)
FAIL
Promoting people with ovaries to executive positions over people
with greater merit, can not help but have a detrimental effect on
the bottom line.
Warren -
Fail yoself
I didn't make any distinction over qualification. My statement was
made assuming equal qualification between candidates.
So if a man and a woman have equal qualifications, the woman should automatically be the one chosen? Fail there too. That's discrimination.
Cool. Barack Obama will just help bankrupt the country like he
helped bankrupt Illinois' pension systems. Obama voted to increase
pension obligations and benefits for government union employees
while also voting to decrease payments to fund those pension
systems. As a result of Barack Obama's fiscal policy votes in
Illinois, they now have this.
"In the time it takes you to read this sentence, Illinois taxpayers
will be $200 deeper in debt. The state's pension debt will exceed
$44 billion this summer(08), increasing at a rate of about $120 per
second, according to Gov. Rod Blagojevich's administration.
The debt already tops $42 billion - enough to give every one of
Illinois' 12.8 million residents a check for $3,300 or buy 937,000
Cadillacs at $45,000 a pop." - Springfield State Journal-Register
5/25/08
Reinmoose | January 12, 2009, 1:26pm | #
Ok, maybe someone should try reading what I wrote.
I read what you wrote. If what you wrote doesn't mean favoring
women over men for promotion, then it doesn't mean anything.
It didn't suggest favoring women over men. It brought
it up as an example of one thing that could be described as
"socially responsible" that would not necessarily have a
detrimental effect on the bottom line of the company, leaving all
other variables alone.
Just because I admit that such a thing exists does not mean I'm in
support of it. Although frankly, a company can do whatever they
like - if they want to favor women, go ahead and do so. I imagine
some companies that do this will end up more profitable than
companies that don't, but not by virtue necessarily of the sex of
their employees.
Excellent article. The point about SRI favoring companies who make symbolic gestures is an excellent one too.
Companies should employ more women as part of social good. Women should be bosses for great justice.
We've had progressive government in the U.S. for over a
century.
This is where it has brought us.
One thing that goes unacknowledged in assessing the Federal
Government's balance sheet is the fact their pension scheme is
completely empty. Congress robs it every year and stuffs it with
IOU's of a similar legal structure to the "special securities" they
ply into the Social Security system every year when they skim
it.
I don't know the exact numbers, but it is an onerous debt that the
government perversely owes itself. Talk about an Enron scheme for
hiding debt, they just do it right in front of our faces. At least
the other public pension schemes actually invest the proceeds of
the worker's payments (albeit poorly, it seems).
Progressivism as ideological vanity is not a sound investment
for the future of anything .
You see this stupid bullshit social awareness crap!?!?! This is why
whatever horrible bullshit conservative rhetoric is out there,
liberals will always be able to piss me off more.
"When Obama begins converting the US to Progressivism then
things will change for the better."-
But of course, Jesus dressed as a half Kenyan- half white American
man has come to save us all.
Sure if you like cradle to grave socialism.
Progressivism is the back handed way of saying…baby sit.
I'm 50, never been in a union, or worked for the government, and have no pension at all. Please tax me more. Thankyou.
I don't think the author really makes his case.
The story is filled with specific anecdotes about investments that
turned out badly, and decisions that cost potential gains, but the
article does not tie these to overall performance of the funds,
except by insinuation. To be convincing, I think the article would
have to show that social investments were a major part of the
overall investments, and that these specific investments performed
significantly worse over a period of time.
The story does not disentangle public pension fund underfunding
from investment problems. Politicians have a well-known bias for
believing extravagant promises of investment returns, because it
allows them to promise great pension benefits to public employees
while leaving plenty of money left over for other purposes. As I
understand it, at least until recently, public pension funds were
not subject to the same federal requirements as private plans. Even
without investment problems, I believe that public pension plans in
the United States are underfunded by trillions of dollars. To be
more convincing, the story would have to distinguish poor
investment performance from underfunding. For example, a 20% loss
by Calpers is less than the average decline in the stock
market.
The story mixes different kinds of investment influences. Investing
to promote specific causes, activist investing, and investing to
provide jobs all have different effects. Investing to promote
specific causes clearly reduces investment performance for social
causes, which is potentially a problem. Activist investing (as
famously practised by Calpers) is a way to increase returns. On
average, I understand that management at large companies manages to
squander about half of profits on ill-conceived expansion and
excessive pay, with ill-conceived investments by far the larger of
the two. Simply forcing a rubber-stamp Board of Directors to
actually function can greatly increase returns, and this is what
Calpers attempted. Investing to provide local jobs and housing is
clearly counterproductive, because the investment will show losses
precisely when the pension fund recipients most need the money.
Regardless of the reasons this kind of investing is done, it is a
mistake.
Suspiciously absent is any discussion of pension fund management
fees, which are an obvious source of problems.
I think the article would be more convincing if it stated a
hypothesis, such as that social investing is a problem, and showed
the total effect as a lower long-term investment return compared to
other types of investments. I think the article is less convincing
when it mixes different issues, lists specific anecdotes without
relating this to overall performance, and does not separate out
other problems such as underfunding and excessive fees.
Eventually the taxpayers will rebel and refuse to vote for tax increases to cover these plans. The local governments will file for the chapter 9 and that will be that. The plans will be reduced from the impossible to the barely possible and that is as good as it will get. The states that have the highest burden are losing population, specifically from the productive segment. Eventually when the goose can't be plucked any further is when the proverbial spaghetti will hit the fan. Already there are rumblings in Congress about the bailouts, and this is occurring at the best possible moment for the statist. When the public pension bomb goes off, the fight between the states will be rather ugly, but in the end the more lefty states will take the hit as the rest of the country will be in no mood to subsidize them.
In NY, both the State and Municipal employees' pensions are guaranteed by the State Constitution. If the penion funds went bust, the taxpayer would have to come-up with additional funding. Even if the state filed bankruptcy, pensions would be paid first. In order for NYC to keep it's head above water, a new pension tier would have to be created. It is a difficult task to lure future employees, expecting them to do the same job for less moneys and a lesser of a pension. Middle class prospective employees will eventually leave (when a robust economy returns) for warmer weather and, hopefully, better opportunities. This is when a City starts to really decay... as did Detroit, et al.
States Lose 867 Billion in Pension Funds-
Governors:
Please give us a bailout because of our stupid social
investments!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aw9HrY21Ynno&refer=worldwide
I think we should give Citi Bank and Citi Group Credit card
hijackers even more-
spike | January 12, 2009, 11:12pm | #
Hey, I've got a great idea. Let's privatize Social Security!
Great Idea!
Then the FEDS can say- We so sorry! Our Bad! We lost all your
retirement monies in a scam hedge fund.
Hey! Don't laugh-
It could save trillions in paper work.
The United States hasn't ever really been a capitalist state, so
blaming capitalism like some of the commenters on here is fairly
naive, it's never been much of a free market either.
Right now the biggest threat is the divide between the politicians
and the rest of us, those states who funds should reign in the
federal government which is out of control with power and
spending.
Also this just popped up on Bloomberg.
(State Pensions' $865 Billion Loss Affects New Hires)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aV0VZMxdImVQ&refer=home
The author attributes the bankruptcy of the City of Vallejo
"largely to unmanageable pension obligations." This is not true;
Mr. Entine should correct this misrepresentation. Vallejo's
bankruptcy was caused by declining tax receipts (mostly due to
lower property tax collections) and exacerbated by high employee
salaries. Vallejo city workers do not participate in Social
Security, meaning that the employer (taxpayers) do not pay the 6.2
percent to Social Security most private sector workers pay.
Vallejo's employer (taxpayer) pension contributions are consistent
with most other public employers in California.
Moreover, Mr. Entine does not put into proper context the value of
the socially-responsible investments of public pension funds.
Public pension funds hold assets of more than $2 trillion. Some
funds have engaged in socially-responsible investing initiatives,
but as a percentage of total assets, the sums are quite small and
SRI cannot be held responsible for pension fund investment returns.
In fact, for the 10-year period ended June 30, 2008, public pension
fund investment returns outperformed their corporate pension fund
counterparts as well as the universe of endowments and foundations.
The idea that these funds are substandard performers is not
supported by the facts.
The author's contention that the Alaska public pension funds loaned
one-third of the value of their assets to mortgages, is simply
false. These funds had several billion in assets at that time; $165
million was nowhere near one-third of their value.
Numerous studies by academics and professional economists recently
have documented the positive economic benefits that emanate from
public pension funds. Read some of those studies here:
http://www.nasra.org/resources/economic.htm
Do public pensions face problems? Yes. However, compared to any
other facet of this nation's retirement benefit structure,
including 401k plans, Social Security, pension benefits for federal
employees, etc., pension benefits for employees of state and local
government are in better condition and far more
cost-effective.
This is not the first attack by Reason on public pensions that
relies on misrepresentations and distortions; read my response to a
similar Reason attack several years ago, here:
http://www.nasra.org/resources/NASRA%20Reason%20Response.pdf.
Keith Brainard
LurkerBold you meant to say socialism not progressivism
...
'Obama begins converting the US to socialism then things
will change for the better'
And of course because you are a socialist, you support using
private tax payer's money to replenish government pension funds
because the managers of these funds blew it. Isn't socialism great?
We all get to pay for somebody elses mistakes and problems. That
seems to be a major tenant of socialism.
We will see about socialism changing things for the better.
Socialism hasn't worked anywhere else and it will not work here.
Calling it progressivism won't change that.
If you want socialism, move to Europe and have 50% of your income
stolen from you by the government in exchange for a nanny state and
sub par services you probably don't even want.
And remember lurker, progressivism is socialism. don't try to dress
it up with a fancy word. Call it what it is. You are not fooling
anyone. Troll.
"The plans will be reduced from the impossible to the barely
possible and that is as good as it will get."
I wish that was true. Unfortunately I think the federal government
will make this its next big bailout and cover it with more federal
debt. The old coots will get their SSI and their pensions, enjoy
30-year retirements, and the younger generations will work until
they die in the traces, trying to pay for it all. Unless they move
to another country.
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