Katherine Mangu-Ward | October 2, 2007
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So, is this the first step down a bold path to personalized medicine, or just a rush to exploit the national fear and uncertainty about side effects of antidepressants?
It's a little bit of both, and that's a good thing.
NeuroMark is aware the such a fast release is unusual—the study has yet to be replicated—and it is inviting doctors and patients to contribute to a database of self-described outcomes to extend the testing period for efficacy even though it is making the test available right away. Participants' identities will be protected, and participating doctors and patients will have access to new data as it becomes available. This is the first nationwide post-release data gathering operation of its kind.
At the same time, the identification of these genetic markers, and the quick transition into available medical technology is encouraging. Earlier this summer, The New York Times ran an article heralding the arrival of personalized medication for depression, which seems to be coming to pass even sooner than anticipated, in this small area, at least.
"We think this test represents the leading edge of personalized medicine," CEO Kim Bechthold. And she's right. Prescriptions based on the results of a cheek swab for suspect genes does sound awfully futuristic. Companies rushing to market with tests for the kinds of conditions and circumstande that make headlines will be a regular feature of the landscape.
People are bound to make medical decisions based on what they read in the paper more and more often in the future. And sometimes they'll make the wrong decisions, as the data suggest many parents did in the wake of the scare about teens and antidepressants in 2004. "Ripped from the headlines" marketing for medical tests may make some doctors uncomfortable, but for patients trying to make right decision with limited information, a speedy turnaround from lab to pharmacy good news.
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I think the test should be available, even though people wouldn't know how to interprete it. Many people have difficulty understanding degrees of risk. They just lump things into safe vs deadly. That's why they won't distinguish between smokeless tobacco, pipe tobacco, and cigarettes. They also expect 100% certainty from scientific tests while this test just gives degrees of maybe. People who have trouble with these concepts aren't ready to use the genetic tests. However, the solution is better statistics education, not a ban on the test.
Some people, like the doctor quoted above, are worried that
the public can't be trusted to understand the limitations of such
tests, or comprehend of the state of the academic
research.
This seems to mischaracterize the position of Douglas Levinson, the
doctor who was quoted. He said, "Depression causes suicidal
feelings. Whether there are additional people who got them because
of the treatment rather than the depression they are experiencing
has not been easy to establish."
Levinson described his own opinion about the usefulness of the
test, concluding that it is not presently a clinically useful tool.
So far as I can tell, he didn't discuss the likelihood that the
public would misunderstand the results.
...and my do a great deal of good. There are so
many antipepression drugs...
Spellcheck, Katherine.
Obviously, BakedPenguin has never known the trauma and heartbreak of seeing a loved one suffer from pepression.
Suicide Kings?
Suicide Girls?
Suicidal Tendencies?
Suicide Machines?
These genes could be correlated to something else, such as a
predisposition to get medical help for mental illness.
They aren't doing an epidemiological study of the whole population,
identifying members with suicidal thoughts and running correlations
on their gene sequences. These folks are self-selected as seeking
help for depression, removing the assumption of independence,
right?
it's a little more complex than "correlations", but thank you for playing.
I just watched a long speach about dialetic-behavioral therapy
on the TV; the psychologist giving the speach made the point that
we don't really know anything, scientifically, about suicidal
people because anyone deemed at risk of suicide is always
eliminated from double-blind studies...
She also said that it is a myth that depression alone causes
suicide. According to her, only about 20%-30% of suicidal people
are depressed. Something like 5%-10% have impulse control
problems
Wow, Dan T. says something good that makes me laugh out loud!
And possibly even wins the thread.
Just for that, I'm calling off the assassins.
they can have my suicide genes when they pry them out of my
cold, dead dna.
Also, the most recent research indicates suicide genes and erection
capability are intimately connected.
My God, a suicide gene might explain why otherwise intelligent people latch on to candidates like Ron Paul. A possible flaw in this hypothesis is the "otherwise intelligent" part, but it's worth investigating. Could libertarians have a genetic prediposition to opt for political suicide?
Pretty cool study, and I must say I'm pleased they narrowed
their target gene population down to 68 from the 10,000+ you often
see in this sort of work. This actually makes it probable the
results are valid. Add to this that I'm actually working on GRIK2
and my results tend to lend support what they observed here and I
think they might actually be on to something.
All this work on glutamate in depression may be transformative, as
most present treatments (including citalopram, the drug in this
study)focus on serotonin or noradrenalin, and seem to take weeks to
months to have an effect. On the other hand, ketamine, which is an
antagonist at the NMDA subclass of glutamate receptors, seems to
act almost immediately and have lasting effects from a single small
dose.
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