David Weigel from the August/September 2007 issue
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And everyone agrees the governor started to slide off the fiscal wagon as he geared up for a second term and a presidential bid. Gasoline, special fuels, and out-of-state oil and gasoline distributors all got taxed. He delayed his income tax cuts for 2006. The cigarette tax, the path of least resistance for state lawmakers, was hiked to raise $127 million. In 2006 the Cato Institute lowered his grade to a C, still not bad for a Democrat (and still marginally better than the grades given Romney and Jeb Bush), but a reflection of how quickly the “market Democrat” veneer can crack when it comes time to raise revenue.
Richardson isn’t driven by libertarian principles. He’s simply a realist: more impressed by markets, and less impressed by central planning, than any other Democrat in the race. And that matters. Richardson would not be a semi-serious contender for the presidency if he hadn’t looked at New Mexico’s problems through “Market Democrat” goggles. That’s how he earned his marquee achievements, and that’s how his credibility grew.
Hardly anyone expects Richardson to win the nomination. He consistently polls in the high single digits, well behind the three front-runners. He has none of their interest group support either, and he hasn’t stood out in the debates. But he’s a strong contender for the vice-presidential nomination, and Richardson knows his libertarian talk has boosted his image. The “market Democrat” brand sells, whether or not the politicians themselves are buying.
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I wonder whether they would contribute any money to Richardson's campaign if they did embrace him. According the FEC records, none of the big-name libertarians who blabber on about Ron Paul here have sent him a cent.
The "market Democrat" brand sells, whether or not the
politicians themselves are buying.
So does the pro-gun message. But the Ds aren't paying any attention
to that, either. They're still in "We got Congress back, so it's
time to push all the stuff that got us kicked out last time"
mode.
Wait a minute. It isn't the politicians who have to buy a brand; it's the voters.
I will say this in Richardson's favor: He doesn't make me want
to vomit.
Given this year's field, that's rare praise.
Richardson is the least odious, and if the race was Guiliani or McCain for the Republicans, and I couldn't cast a protest vote for whoever gets the nod from the Libertarian party, I'd consider voting for Richardson.
On the gun issue, I have a hard time trusting Richardson. Most pro-gun democrats either get shouted down, or become anti-gun in the typical DC tit-for-tat legislation game.
meiageek
Who on earth could get the nod from the Libertarian party who
wouldn't merit a protest vote?
I don't get how the number of vetoes, the size of the executive
staff, and a hands-off approach to legislative process are supposed
to count as markers of a libertian-ish approach to policy.
Gov. Johnson's complaints make him sound like he's more interested
in personality and style than in advancing a libertarian
agenda.
I've ignored Richardson ever since I learned that he wanted
every car sold in New Mexico to have breathalyzer-locked ignition
switches.
Was that his only failing? Is he really worthy of a libertarian
vote?
@Edward
So what if someone spends 5 hour blogging on Ron Paul each quarter?
You could have spent that time doing paid work as well...
Is he really worthy of a libertarian vote?
Worthy?
No.
Only Dem who, if elected, won't compel me leave the country?
Yes.
Jerry
I'm independently wealthy, so I don't have to work. I haven't sent
Ron Paul any money, of course, but neither have Gillespie, Walker,
Weigel, or any of the other big mouths who want you to think the
guy is going to change the political landscape. Must not believe it
themselves is my guess.
Here's an excerpt from an interesting piece on Ron Paul at
http://knappster.blogspot.com/2007/07/my-ron-paul-conspiracy-theory.html
"And we know that the pattern of Paul's activities over the last 20
years has amounted to a gigantic fleecing of various
constituencies, including but not limited to the libertarian
movement and the Libertarian Party. At any given moment, Paul may
have sold himself to various donor pools as a "libertarian," a
"constitutionalist" or a "small government conservative" (he's a
little cagier when selling himself to the racists, usually stopping
short of flatly identifying himself as one, and blaming unnamed
"ghost writers" for saying things differently than he would have
when he gets caught doing so) ... but he's arguably functioned in
office as a slightly cranky, but otherwise fairly typical,
Republican congresscritter.
Paul has drained untold millions out of the libertarian movement
and the Libertarian Party over the years by talking a good line and
casting strategic votes on the floor of the US House against
spending bills -- bills that he knows will pass without his vote;
bills he's already packed with pork that he can take credit for
with his corporate sponsors and his home-district constituents,
while denying responsibility for when he addresses the various
pools of "small government" donors he's been playing like a fiddle
for so long.
I think this is a lot more realistic than Ron Paul's chances in 2008. Richardson has at least been a governor. It's hard to make the leap from the House to the White House directly.
I moved to Albuquerque a few months ago after 12 years in Portland, OR hoping to escape some of the creeping nanny state laws that are starting to ruin Oregon and particularly Portland. I came here hoping that some of what Gary Johnson had done to turn around this State was still intact but it appears that is not the case as the legislature, with Richardson's tacit approval at worst, is back to turning poor ol' New Mexico into a budding Third World police state. In fact, some long time locals I've recently encountered have expressed that this is precisely the case because he is running for president and now refer to the State as the "Land of Entrapment". Now I understand he governs the whole state, but obviously much of the power is centered in Albuquerque. And in past two years, the police and government powers that be have initiated highly legally questionable DWI roadblocks that seem to target minorities based on their locations, a red-light camera moving violation program with the assistance and prodding of a private company that supplies the product that has been railed against by the ACLU who is challenging it in the courts and finally arguably the most police-friendly and regressive DWI enforcement policy in the nation as well as an extremely harsh prison system. Again, Richardson may not be directly responsible for this but as you mentioned he is well know for being involved in everything here so he knows the score. And with a just implemented smoking ban in Albuquerque it is clear the nanny state is alive and well in the supposedly individual freedom loving SW part of the nation. Based on this, any libertarian credentials one might bestow upon him are highly questionable. Too bad the extremely rational Gary Johnson was limited to two terms here and further I wonder why he is not running for President instead of Bill Richardson.
Jerry
I just realized that you mean that the bloggers here are
contributing sweat to Ron Paul's campaign, right? But don't they
already get paid to blabber?
I don't know how one can seriously look to take the knees out from the best democratic candidate in the race while simultaneously idolizing ron paul. They're both fine candidates by the standards of their respective parties, but paul's religiousity, ativism, and goldbuggery easily equal the faults (and they are) dave cites here.
"Who on earth could get the nod from the Libertarian party who
wouldn't merit a protest vote?"
Maybe Clint Eastwood. He could be a major 3rd party contender on
the Libertarian ticket.
Edward, I'm guessing you get paid to blabber?
It would explain how you're independently wealthy.
Not likely to win but not impossible.
With a current 3rd place in NH:
http://www.wmur.com/download/2007/0718/13706077.pdf
and a recent 3rd in IA ahead of Obama, Richardson is starting to
break into the Top-Tier.
And though not stressed in the article, he also has shown strong
civil libertarian views as well as supporting economic
liberties.
Go for it, but send the poor sap some cash.
Ah, but I have. And I intend to do so again before the Florida
primary. I might even volunteer, if the Libertate Bunch can spare
me.
Hmmm. I just looked my contribution up. It isn't there. I donated at least two months ago.
Put it this way: Richardson certainly isn't my ideal candidate, but if he got the nomination he'd have a pretty fair crack at my vote against any of the possible Republican nominies with the exception of Ron Paul.
There is one chief executive from New Mexico who should be
running:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_E._Johnson
Paul/Johnson 2008 - now that is a dream ticket - not
Hillary/Obama.
"and a recent 3rd in IA ahead of Obama, Richardson is starting
to break into the Top-Tier."
Maybe that's why Hillary is wanting the debates to be limited to
the first tier. She doesn't want Richardson to catch on with the
centrists.
robc,
Ah. No, it wasn't. I didn't see it, but I assume there's a minimum
contribution to get listed.
What I got from this is:
"Libertarians shouldn't vote for Richardson because he's not a
libertarian."
No kidding. But is he the best Dem candidate? I don't know yet, but
how about this for the standard:
The candidate least likely to make you vomit while saying
his/her name.
By that standard, I see Richardson and Paul as the only viable
options.
So he's for the free market. Big deal. He's still a UN lackey
and would never get my vote. Who even knew he was Latino?
He was breathing down my neck a few weeks ago and I did not know
until today.
Paul has drained untold millions out of the libertarian movement and the Libertarian Party over the years by talking a good line and casting strategic votes on the floor of the US House against spending bills -- bills that he knows will pass without his vote; bills he's already packed with pork that he can take credit for with his corporate sponsors and his home-district constituents, while denying responsibility for when he addresses the various pools of "small government" donors he's been playing like a fiddle for so long.
Ah, so Ron Paul fails the Purity Test. If he's not totally with us,
he's against us. Good thing that our ideas are so massively popular
that we don't need to worry about pesky things like "political
reality" or anything.
Even if everything you said about Dr. Paul is true (which it very
well might be), I still think that he's a better choice than any
other major party candidate. And given the LP's focus on political
purity rather than political reality, he has a better chance of
injecting a hint of libertarian ideas into the national debate than
any Libertarian candidate. Dr. Paul actually gets media coverage;
LP candidates, if they get any coverage, get the "look at those
crackpots" coverage (which, frankly, we libertarians often
deserve).
As for your little "who donated money" purity test . . . well,
given that we're libertarians, shouldn't we celebrate the fact that
Reason staffers (and other bloggers) are spending their
money on things that will actually make their lives better, rather
than wasting money on political campaigns? Seems that you've bought
into the statist idea that politicians deserve protection money
from the sheeple. I mean, what kind of libertarian are you, who
contributes to political campaigns?
Seriously, is money the only way to measure a person's support of a
political candidate? There are myriad reasons why someone might not
contribute, not least among them that they simply might not
have the money. Or at least not the $200 needed to show up on
the donor lists. People do have other things to spend
money on, you know. Or maybe you don't, if you're independently
wealthy.
Honestly, you simply must try harder. Dan T. has
established high standards for trolling here; please try to uphold
them.
ProL,
$200 is the minimum that they have to collect employment info and
etc, so that is probably the minimum for the list.
Thomas Knapp was correct in many ways. While some libertarians
have some lovefest with Ron Paul and think he is some courageous
straight-talker, he certainly panders to whatever group is
convenient and ( IMHO) seems more comfortable appealing to the
ultra-conservative cranky ( racist, possibly) old white guy market.
His "consistent principled" message depends on who is donating the
money.
He has plenty of opportunities to TRULY be a persuasive straight
talker and speak to groups outside of the white Christian farmers,
but doesnt really take advantage of it. He also wastes
opportunities to actually explain the GOOD points of
individualism/libertarianism as they pertain to issues people
actually care about ( like healthcare). I think it's stupid for a
doctor to just say " I never accepted Medicaid" without offering
any alternatives, for example. I see people cmmenting on blogs that
Dr. Paul would treat "needy" people for reduced fees, but I have
never seen him say anything like that or present the real-life
alternatives to government assistance,etc.
Ignoring the NAACP and Urban League invitations, doesnt help either
IMO.
Eric Dondero is an idiot, but I think there is some validity in his
statements about Paul regarding how his constituents view him
compared to how libertarians regard him.
And when it comes down to it, he has decided to merely be a
Buchanan-ish angry, isolationist, ultra-conservative, white guy
candidate. And his support will reflect this.
"He has plenty of opportunities to TRULY be a persuasive
straight talker and speak to groups outside of the white Christian
farmers, but doesnt really take advantage of it. He also wastes
opportunities to actually explain the GOOD points of
individualism/libertarianism as they pertain to issues people
actually care about ( like healthcare). I think it's stupid for a
doctor to just say " I never accepted Medicaid" without offering
any alternatives, for example. I see people cmmenting on blogs that
Dr. Paul would treat "needy" people for reduced fees, but I have
never seen him say anything like that or present the real-life
alternatives to government assistance,etc."
I do wish he or some other Republicans would speak out on this
issue and educate the public on alternatives to the Democrats'
plans of socialized medicine.
Bill Richardson is about as libertarian as most people excitedly claim Bill Maher is; that is until they open their mouths and the Liberal Democrat platitudes start pouring out.
JJ3,
His constituents re-elected his again and again with an ever
increasing majority, so I think that indicates what they think of
Ron Paul
I've been waiting a week for Weigel to get the vapors over Richardson's maricone crack like he did macaca, but it's like Richardson has some sort of inoculation that Allen didn't. Go team!
I've been waiting a week for Weigel to get the vapors over
Richardson's maricone crack like he did macaca, but it's like
Richardson has some sort of inoculation that Allen didn't. Go
team!
The difference is that Richardson apologized for the comments
whereas Allen initially said he'd made the word up, then was forced
to admit it was a French word, then apologized, then tried to get
sympathy by declaring that his mother was Jewish. It was so
bumbling and weird that it became a more interesting story.
I'm more interested to know how Dave can work with an editor who supports the DH rule. That's against natural law, if you ask me.
According the FEC records, none of the big-name libertarians
who blabber on about Ron Paul here have sent him a cent.
Because "big-name libertarians" are notoriously wealthy. They're
raking in those journalist dollars!
Thanks for printing a little more information about Richardson than I've encountered in the popular press. I kind of like the guy as a personality, but knowing that he identifies as a "market Democrat" and has been endorsed (grudgingly, albeit) by libertarians, and has also worked for Kissinger Associates -- makes me far less likely to send him money. Guess I'll have to figure which of Edwards, Clinton or Obama will pull the party farther in the evil, socialistic direction. And them write them a very large check.
I've thought for some time now that while Dr. Paul makes a fine libertarian symbol in Congress, Dana Rohrabacher and Floyd Flake have been more effective. Instead of being a clean Dr. No visible to the movement, they've gotten down & dirty and done what actually had to be done to advance liberty or retard the advance of tyranny. I'd rather a Congressman be the swing vote in committee on an amendment, no matter how minor, than to simply prevent a bill from passing unanimously on the floor.
"David Weigel wonders if libertarians should embrace
presidential contender Governor Bill Richardson (D-New
Mexico)."
The stereotypical image of libertarians like myself is that we are
all a bunch of dopeheads. I haven't smoked weed since the first
Bush administration.
After listening to the idea of supporting a guy who signed a ban on
smoking a legal product (tobacco) on private property (bars)
espoused on a Libertarian forum...maybe they're right.
What are you high, David?
Sorry that this is the essence of my first post here. I've been
lurking for quite some time. I'll do better. But geez Louise
people.
"Bill believes that people should have freedom to live their
lives the way we want to live them," says Ned Farquhar, who helped
write the governor's campaign autobiography, Between Worlds, and is
working closely with him on an environment-focused sequel. "That's
the whole basis of this society, that we ought to respect each
other's rights. He's seen the tyranny of the majority, and I think
it's committed him to protecting the rights of minorities, from gay
rights to gun rights."
Obviously, Matt and Trey wrote this article for Reason and
put David's name on it. It's a spoof. Satire. Very funny guys.
Great stuff as usual.
The dem ticket has been set for a loong time, at least since 2000, Hil and Bill(Richardson).
In 20 years i might vote for him....or is it 18..
Anyway I am still on that "never vote for a democrat in the next 20
years unless I see a sea change" pledge.
This guy is cool...but not a sea change.
If he gets the nomination I will still vote Libertarian.
Too bad the extremely rational Gary Johnson was limited to
two terms here and further I wonder why he is not running for
President instead of Bill Richardson.
This could only be said by someone who moved to NM after Johnson
left. Johnson was hands off to the point of assuring that things
that needed his attention didn't get it. Now if something needed
the attention of his former company in the form of a large
construction contract, he paid close attention. Johnson was only
right in his position on the drug war, for which he deserves
credit.
FWIW, Richardson cut taxes as nearly his first act after taking
over from Johnson.
And apparently Cato likes him for fiscal responsibility.
Hmmm...
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, who earned a B, is the
highest scoring Democrat in the nation and one of the best
governors overall. The report card praises Richardson for cutting
taxes and strictly limiting increases in state spending.
http://www.cato.org/new/03-05/03-01-05r.html
Johnson says. "He plays up the fact that he cuts taxes when,
if you add up all the fees he's approved, there's been a net tax
increase.
This is, of course, not entirely accurate.
1. Users fees are not taxes and seem a good way to address the
issue of free ridership.
2. When looked at over time, even with the fee increases lumped as
taxes, the tax cuts result in an overall decrease in tax
burden.
3. The tax code is far less regressive than it used to be, shifting
the tax burden that remains to those that can better afford it.
Is Bill Richardson closer to being a libertarian Democrat than
Rudy Giuliani is to being a libertarian Republican?
Discuss.
Bill Richardson only has to not be Ruholla Khomeini to be closer to libertarian than Giuliani.
.. Richardson almost had my vote with Medical Marijuana but he
lost it with the smoking ban ..
.. he talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk ..
.. Hobbit
"Too bad the extremely rational Gary Johnson was limited to two
terms here and further I wonder why he is not running for President
instead of Bill Richardson.
This could only be said by someone who moved to NM after Johnson
left. Johnson was hands off to the point of assuring that things
that needed his attention didn't get it. Now if something needed
the attention of his former company in the form of a large
construction contract, he paid close attention. Johnson was only
right in his position on the drug war, for which he deserves
credit.
FWIW, Richardson cut taxes as nearly his first act after taking
over from Johnson."
I'll definitely defer to your expressed experience as a resident of
NM during the (Gary) Johnson administration. However, I feel
comfortable in using the ol' libertarian adage, "The government
that governs least, governs best" not matter where I live nor doing
what time frame. Can you embellish what was it that needed his
attention-more governing by the folks who like to limit personal
freedoms or something else?
Democrats are missing a big opportunity by not campaigning for
spending and tax cuts. With the Republicans losing all credibility
on spending, the Democrats could solidify their hold on power for a
long time with a smaller government push.
Sound unlikely? Federal spending has doubled since the "smaller
government" Republicans took over 1994. Even with inflation, there
is a lot of room to cut spending and still push for traditional
Democratic spending priorities.
Just withdrawing from Iraq would go a long way toward balancing the
budget. Too bad the current Democratic contenders (including
Richardson) already have plans to spend those (borrowed) funds
elsewhere, instead of reducing the deficit.
The three biggest issues for the significant number of
libertarian-leaning voters are war, civil liberties, and spending.
If the Democrats took the lead in making government less expensive,
they could win on all three counts.
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